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2023 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #1: Beg for Bedard

Jun. 8, 2023 at 10:25 p.m.
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Dahlin is worth that but also, how is Makar making less than that


I think its cause Makar signed a 6 and not 8 year deal

If he signed 8 years probs would be 10mill +
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Jun. 8, 2023 at 10:49 p.m.
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 9:58 a.m.
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Severson sign and trade to CBJ, 8x6.25M, 3rd to NJD for Severson
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 10:03 a.m.
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Severson sign and trade to CBJ, 8x6.25M, 3rd to NJD for Severson


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that is all.
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 10:04 a.m.
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Quoting: Bobcat205
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that is all.


If you’re going all in, can I interest you in JT Miller? Elite 1C you’ve been looking for
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 10:04 a.m.
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Severson sign and trade to CBJ, 8x6.25M, 3rd to NJD for Severson


Pretty hefty deal. Jackets are not holding back
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 10:05 a.m.
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If you’re going all in, can I interest you in JT Miller? Elite 1C you’ve been looking for


Sorry, buddy, but we've got a center we've been eyeing up in the draft.
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 10:08 a.m.
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Sorry, buddy, but we've got a center we've been eyeing up in the draft.


I’m actually surprised the Jackets have been so aggressive. What’s the plan when guys like Jiricek, Mateychuk, Ceulemans are pushing for a roster spot?
Jun. 9, 2023 at 10:09 a.m.
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I’m actually surprised the Jackets have been so aggressive. What’s the plan when guys like Jiricek, Mateychuk, Ceulemans are pushing for a roster spot?


the answer is compete while those guys are on ELC and bridge deals and Provorov/Severson are still good
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 10:25 a.m.
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Quoting: zk97
Severson sign and trade to CBJ, 8x6.25M, 3rd to NJD for Severson


Severson saw this first hand and was like, I want to join this for 8 years.
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 10:43 a.m.
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I’m actually surprised the Jackets have been so aggressive. What’s the plan when guys like Jiricek, Mateychuk, Ceulemans are pushing for a roster spot?


Also while Gudbranson is still in his prime right? awesome face
Jun. 9, 2023 at 10:44 a.m.
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Severson saw this first hand and was like, I want to join this for 8 years.
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If you can beat ‘em, join em? Wait a minute….
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 10:51 a.m.
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Okay so I’ve been a staunch Kekalainen defender, trade’s good, contract is expensive AF but CBJ’s defense was horrible, they’ve just added Provorov and Severson to help Werenski, Boqvist, etc, assuming CBJ can stay healthy and their goaltending is passable, that’s a WC contention team
Jun. 9, 2023 at 11:00 a.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Okay so I’ve been a staunch Kekalainen defender, trade’s good, contract is expensive AF but CBJ’s defense was horrible, they’ve just added Provorov and Severson to help Werenski, Boqvist, etc, assuming CBJ can stay healthy and their goaltending is passable, that’s a WC contention team


They have a fantastic coach in Mike Babcock too to lead them to a cup
Jun. 9, 2023 at 11:08 a.m.
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They have a fantastic coach in Mike Babcock too to lead them to a cup


Yeah that’s dumb but Babcock could work for a couple years, he’s not the long term answer though
Jun. 9, 2023 at 11:19 a.m.
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Fine, I'll buy them
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 11:42 a.m.
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Fine, I'll buy them

Not if @csick does it first
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 11:44 a.m.
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Fine, I'll buy them



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Jun. 9, 2023 at 11:54 a.m.
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Not if csick does it first


Let’s all buy them

Imagine if this site owned a team, 1000000000% unrealistic but would be cool
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 12:40 p.m.
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Fine, I'll buy them


What I'm sensing is that the Melnyk daughters and the NHL want different owners and can't agree on who will get to buy the team
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 12:50 p.m.
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Let’s all buy them

Imagine if this site owned a team, 1000000000% unrealistic but would be cool


If all 48000 registered Capfriendly users cough up 20000 dollars, we can make it happen
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 1:09 p.m.
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Notable facts for a Debrincat trade:

1) His shooting was at his low and was very unlucky when it came to that. He kept having open nets and be like either robbed by the goalie or hits the post or misses the net to the point where everyone was like at some point it needs to even out and go the other way. The players he played with the most are Brassard/Pinto/Greig as his centre and Batherson as his winger. Greig and Pinto as good as they played werent close to the level of Cat and couldnt keep up. Brassard is washed and was always more suited for the bottom 6. As for Batherson, he wasnt bad defensively the year before but he did say that his high ankle sprain did bother him and he wasnt 100% all year and that he did struggle to play without Norris on his line as well because Norris was great at covering for him defensively. So Batherson and Cat both needed to play with 2 way players to cover for them , instead both played for each other and none was able to retrieve the puck.

2) As for the return yeah the Sens gave up the 7th overall and yeah they wont get that return. they wont get a top 10 pick in 2023 and they wont get a prospect like Korchinski, Gauthier, Mintyukov, Savoie, Jiricek, Kasper. I also think Chicago was desperate at the time to start their rebuild and they didnt have their first so they settle for the best offer that included the highest first they could get. And since NJ and Philly took their 2nd and 5th overall of the table , Ottawa was the winning bid at 7th overall. Teams rarely ever trade top 10 picks so that was huge.

3) The Sens arent gonna take any full futures deals example Ryan Suzuki, 30th overall and 2nd round pick. And they wont take an all in move for 1 year for 2 older rentals like a Tanev + Toffoli + 2nd.
So returns like this that include a guy they can plug into the lineup immediately, a 1st round pick and cap space makes a ton of sense.

example:
Berggren or Mazur or Soderblom + 2023 1st (Isles pick 17th overall) - assuming Larkin, Raymond, Seider, Wallinder, Edvinsson, Kasper, Cossa are untouchable.

Evangelista or Tomasino + 2023 1st (Edmonton 1st - 24th overall)

Dallas doesnt have anything to get a deal done and work the cap space.

Florida would make sense with a deal around Luostarinen + Samoskevich or a deal around Knight or a deal around Reinhart who has 1 year left.

Vegas - if they win the cup , i wonder if they make a deal around Marchessault/Karlsson , pick 32 and something else.

Colorado - Newhook and their 1st (27th overall)

Seattle - Tolvanen/Sprong + 20th overall + potentially a 2nd.

Pittsburgh would be a 3 way trade with 14th pick and another small piece to a 3rd team that wants futures and sens getting some player or two
Jun. 9, 2023 at 1:12 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Notable facts for a Debrincat trade:

1) His shooting was at his low and was very unlucky when it came to that. He kept having open nets and be like either robbed by the goalie or hits the post or misses the net to the point where everyone was like at some point it needs to even out and go the other way. The players he played with the most are Brassard/Pinto/Greig as his centre and Batherson as his winger. Greig and Pinto as good as they played werent close to the level of Cat and couldnt keep up. Brassard is washed and was always more suited for the bottom 6. As for Batherson, he wasnt bad defensively the year before but he did say that his high ankle sprain did bother him and he wasnt 100% all year and that he did struggle to play without Norris on his line as well because Norris was great at covering for him defensively. So Batherson and Cat both needed to play with 2 way players to cover for them , instead both played for each other and none was able to retrieve the puck.

2) As for the return yeah the Sens gave up the 7th overall and yeah they wont get that return. they wont get a top 10 pick in 2023 and they wont get a prospect like Korchinski, Gauthier, Mintyukov, Savoie, Jiricek, Kasper. I also think Chicago was desperate at the time to start their rebuild and they didnt have their first so they settle for the best offer that included the highest first they could get. And since NJ and Philly took their 2nd and 5th overall of the table , Ottawa was the winning bid at 7th overall. Teams rarely ever trade top 10 picks so that was huge.

3) The Sens arent gonna take any full futures deals example Ryan Suzuki, 30th overall and 2nd round pick. And they wont take an all in move for 1 year for 2 older rentals like a Tanev + Toffoli + 2nd.
So returns like this that include a guy they can plug into the lineup immediately, a 1st round pick and cap space makes a ton of sense.

example:
Berggren or Mazur or Soderblom + 2023 1st (Isles pick 17th overall) - assuming Larkin, Raymond, Seider, Wallinder, Edvinsson, Kasper, Cossa are untouchable.

Evangelista or Tomasino + 2023 1st (Edmonton 1st - 24th overall)

Dallas doesnt have anything to get a deal done and work the cap space.

Florida would make sense with a deal around Luostarinen + Samoskevich or a deal around Knight or a deal around Reinhart who has 1 year left.

Vegas - if they win the cup , i wonder if they make a deal around Marchessault/Karlsson , pick 32 and something else.

Colorado - Newhook and their 1st (27th overall)

Seattle - Tolvanen/Sprong + 20th overall + potentially a 2nd.

Pittsburgh would be a 3 way trade with 14th pick and another small piece to a 3rd team that wants futures and sens getting some player or two


I feel how VGK would do Debrincat.

First they would dump Martinez to Anaheim or something then send to Ottawa 2023 1st + Buffalo 3rd + Brisson + Cormier to do almost a sign and trade

OTT then goes and gets Keller or Bratt

Seems like a not so bad idea.

Could also see NJ do it in a deal involving Bratt
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 1:14 p.m.
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 1:14 p.m.
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Obviously this isn't a real FA, but I really respect the name here. That's got to be the most perfect goalie name of all time, made up or not
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