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Created by: SMH

Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 19, 2023

Published: Apr. 19, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

MTL

Hart, Carter
2023 1st round pick (PHI)

Additional Details:

Montreal pick is at 5
Philly pick is at 6

PHI

2023 1st round pick (MTL)

Additional Details:

Philadelphia fans want to insure they pick top 5 to insure they get one of the top 5 forwards in the draft

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Evgeni Dadonov: $2,500,000 (50%)
Nick Bonino: $1,025,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
26	$82,500,000	$79,348,999	$1,132,500	$5,515,000	$3,151,001

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 2	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 8
Pitlick, Rem $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 5
Farrell, Sean $897,500$897,500 ($25,000$25K) RW, LW RFA - 3	Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 3
Pezzetta, Michael $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C UFA - 3	Gurianov, Denis $2,900,000$2,900,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 4
	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 3
	Belzile, Alex $750,000$750,000 C, RW UFA - 1
	Tierney, Chris $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 3	Allen, Jake $2,875,000$2,875,000 G UFA - 1
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($212,500$212K) RD RFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 3	Kovacevic, Johnathan $766,667$766,667 RD UFA - 3	Hart, Carter $3,979,000$3,979,000 G RFA - 2
Harris, Jordan $842,500$842,500 ($507,500$508K) LD/RD RFA - 1	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 3	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 4
	Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Monahan, Sean $6,375,000$6,375,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1
	Xhekaj, Arber $828,333$828,333 LD/RD RFA - 2	Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Apr. 19, 2023 at 1:44 p.m.

SevenLeg

Hop on the Slaftrain

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Philly

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Apr. 19, 2023 at 1:47 p.m.

dickie_boon

yotes own canada

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philly says no. its easy to move up one spot and not give up a really good young goalie

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Apr. 19, 2023 at 1:47 p.m.

Campabee

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It's an easy overpay to move up just one spot in the draft, Philly passes as soon as Hart is mentioned. It is like Montreal offering Guhle or Slaf to move to 4th

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Apr. 19, 2023 at 1:50 p.m.

Maxmax2005

MixiMurp

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Philly, Hart is worth alot more than moving up one spot

Apr. 19, 2023 at 1:59 p.m.

Ste_Catherine_Street

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No way Philly does that. Maybe not even to move into the #2 spot for Fantilli

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Apr. 19, 2023 at 2:11 p.m.

SMH

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Mr.

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Quoting: Campabee

It's an easy overpay to move up just one spot in the draft, Philly passes as soon as Hart is mentioned. It is like Montreal offering Guhle or Slaf to move to 4th

Did you juat say it'll cost the first overall to move up a spot ?!

Apr. 19, 2023 at 2:16 p.m.

Campabee

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Quoting: SMH

Did you juat say it'll cost the first overall to move up a spot ?!

No, I said this is as ridiculous as Montreal offering Slaf or Guhle to move up to 4th from 5th.

Apr. 19, 2023 at 2:37 p.m.

SMH

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Mr.

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Quoting: Campabee

No, I said this is as ridiculous as Montreal offering Slaf or Guhle to move up to 4th from 5th.

My only thought behind this post is the drop off in quality after the top 5 picks, but michkov might be available at 6th anyway

Apr. 19, 2023 at 2:57 p.m.

dannibalcorpse

we miss leo k

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GSVA draft pick value chart shows the difference in value between #5OA & #6OA as 0.6 future GSVA (8.2 vs 7.6) - equivalent to a pick in the 80s. While I always believe that the team moving up needs to overpay a little, giving up a starting goalie is a bridge too far - if Philly offered up their 2nd rounder (#39OA, 2.2 GSVA) it would be more than enough, and on top of that they wouldn't have to give up their starting goalie for it.

Apr. 19, 2023 at 3:06 p.m.

#10

Campabee

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Quoting: SMH

My only thought behind this post is the drop off in quality after the top 5 picks, but michkov might be available at 6th anyway

My whole point is it maybe costs a 3rd to move up 1 spot or a 2nd with the drop off, I think Hart has more value than a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

Apr. 19, 2023 at 3:47 p.m.

#11

ricochetii

Go Habs Go

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Montreal adds their 2nd.
Philly gets 5th and Hrabal.
Montreal gets 6th and Hart.

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