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Barron and PLD madness continues

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Initial Creation Date: Apr. 21, 2023
Published: Apr. 21, 2023
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Jets fans like the Barron boys. I like em too. This way they can get Barron in the PLD trade!
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Apr. 21, 2023 at 1:16 p.m.
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lol
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Apr. 21, 2023 at 1:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Jetman
lol


You'd have sooo much cap space though....
Apr. 21, 2023 at 1:20 p.m.
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If they want Barron, i would only add MTL 2023 2nd.

If they want a 1st, FLA 2023 1st + Kidney or CGY 24/25 1st + Beck.

Can't have Barron and a 1st.
Apr. 21, 2023 at 1:21 p.m.
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You'd have sooo much cap space though....


if we could get Severson back into town, I wouldnt mind trading Poink but that would cost you a 2nd and Roy minus Harris in this trade.

Barron, Justin
Roy, Joshua
Kidney, Riley
2023 1st round pick (FLA)
2023 2nd round pick (MTL)
Apr. 21, 2023 at 1:21 p.m.
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If they want Barron, i would only add MTL 2023 2nd.

If they want a 1st, FLA 2023 1st + Kidney or CGY 24/25 1st + Beck.

Can't have Barron and a 1st.


I mean... What would WE need to add for 3 years of Pionk?
Apr. 21, 2023 at 1:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Jetman
if we could get Severson back into town, I wouldnt mind trading Poink but that would cost you a 2nd and Roy minus Harris in this trade.

Barron, Justin
Roy, Joshua
Kidney, Riley
2023 1st round pick (FLA)
2023 2nd round pick (MTL)


Sounds like a lot. I get it, but I would not give Roy. I think he's gonna make a big impact in a few years.
Apr. 21, 2023 at 1:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Jetman
if we could get Severson back into town, I wouldnt mind trading Poink but that would cost you a 2nd and Roy minus Harris in this trade.

Barron, Justin
Roy, Joshua
Kidney, Riley
2023 1st round pick (FLA)
2023 2nd round pick (MTL)


bro what LOL. We'll take him for free next year if thats the cost hahahaa what is this
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Apr. 21, 2023 at 1:43 p.m.
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bro what LOL. We'll take him for free next year if thats the cost hahahaa what is this


2nd and Roy for Pionk & Barron, Kidney and a late teens 1st rounder for Dubois
Apr. 21, 2023 at 1:44 p.m.
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The overvaluing of Montreal assets hits another milestone.
Apr. 21, 2023 at 1:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Jetman
if we could get Severson back into town, I wouldnt mind trading Poink but that would cost you a 2nd and Roy minus Harris in this trade.

Barron, Justin
Roy, Joshua
Kidney, Riley
2023 1st round pick (FLA)
2023 2nd round pick (MTL)


You have got to be kidding right! Barron put up points at a similar pace to Pionk at less than 1/5th of the cost and in his rookie season! Barron has a higher ceiling, is cost controlled for next season, is team controlled for the next 5 years and already has a similar ppg average to Pionk's 0.40 ppg (Barron 0.38). Montreal is not moving Barron straight up for Pionk when Barron next year could easily outscore Pionk LMAO!!!
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Apr. 21, 2023 at 2:15 p.m.
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You have got to be kidding right! Barron put up points at a similar pace to Pionk at less than 1/5th of the cost and in his rookie season! Barron has a higher ceiling, is cost controlled for next season, is team controlled for the next 5 years and already has a similar ppg average to Pionk's 0.40 ppg (Barron 0.38). Montreal is not moving Barron straight up for Pionk when Barron next year could easily outscore Pionk LMAO!!!


Agreed, I like the idea of a Barron for Pionk swap included in the Dubois trade though (if the Jets are reasonable and see the value in it - $5M in cap space and a young replacement D that is under team control for 5+ years).

Works especially in their favour if they sign Severson with the cap space they gain from this move... Pionk for Barron + Severson is a huge win.

Edit: If you're a Jets fan and you're offered a Barron for Pionk 1 for 1 swap you say yes right?
Apr. 21, 2023 at 2:17 p.m.
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Take out Barron and Pionk.
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Apr. 21, 2023 at 2:19 p.m.
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Quoting: MarcBergevin69
bro what LOL. We'll take him for free next year if thats the cost hahahaa what is this


Wont happen but the threat alone of an offer sheet makes the PLD price change. 4.1M offer sheet signed and the jets are screwed as they wont be able to trade him. That has to be considered in any honest negotiation.

Quoting: Jetman
if we could get Severson back into town, I wouldnt mind trading Poink but that would cost you a 2nd and Roy minus Harris in this trade.

Barron, Justin
Roy, Joshua
Kidney, Riley
2023 1st round pick (FLA)
2023 2nd round pick (MTL)


Didnt know PLD had more value than Jack Eichel. Cool story bro
Apr. 21, 2023 at 2:20 p.m.
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Agreed, I like the idea of a Barron for Pionk swap included in the Dubois trade though (if the Jets are reasonable and see the value in it - $5M in cap space and a young replacement D that is under team control for 5+ years).

Works especially in their favour if they sign Severson with the cap space they gain from this move... Pionk for Barron + Severson is a huge win.


I don't like the idea of swapping out the better, younger, cost controlled player who is already scoring at a similar pace. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, we are rebuilding not going for a cup, keep the younger Barron and see if he can put up 30-40 points next year as a full-time NHL player and allow the young roster to continue to grow together.
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Apr. 21, 2023 at 2:26 p.m.
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I don't like the idea of swapping out the better, younger, cost controlled player who is already scoring at a similar pace. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, we are rebuilding not going for a cup, keep the younger Barron and see if he can put up 30-40 points next year as a full-time NHL player and allow the young roster to continue to grow together.


Pionk being worth more than Barron in a hard cap league. Delusion at its finest from an opposing fan base that doesnt know the other teams prospects. And coming from Winnipeg of all teams. A team, that is beyond desperate for low cost assets that they can control with everyone leaving as soon as they can.
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Apr. 21, 2023 at 2:28 p.m.
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Barron just isn't happening. We are trying to add to our core group of young players.
Moving one core player for another core player, means no net gain regardless of what else is involved.
We have plenty of center possibilities internally and almost none at RHD. Anyone older and/or short term is only a stop-gap measure and doesn't make sense if you're increasing the gap you need to cover by trading away up and coming roster players.
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Apr. 21, 2023 at 2:49 p.m.
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Pionk being worth more than Barron in a hard cap league. Delusion at its finest from an opposing fan base that doesnt know the other teams prospects. And coming from Winnipeg of all teams. A team, that is beyond desperate for low cost assets that they can control with everyone leaving as soon as they can.


Everyone leaving as soon as they can??? Connor...Ehlers...Scheifele...Morrissey...Wheeler...
Apr. 21, 2023 at 3:01 p.m.
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You have got to be kidding right! Barron put up points at a similar pace to Pionk at less than 1/5th of the cost and in his rookie season! Barron has a higher ceiling, is cost controlled for next season, is team controlled for the next 5 years and already has a similar ppg average to Pionk's 0.40 ppg (Barron 0.38). Montreal is not moving Barron straight up for Pionk when Barron next year could easily outscore Pionk LMAO!!!


u daft? Barron is part of the Dubois trade. read what I wrote.

Roy and a 2nd for Pionk.

A first and a good prospect and something else for Dubois...Barron, FLA 1st and your Kidney
Apr. 21, 2023 at 3:19 p.m.
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u daft? Barron is part of the Dubois trade. read what I wrote.

Roy and a 2nd for Pionk.

A first and a good prospect and something else for Dubois...Barron, FLA 1st and your Kidney


Are you daft?! Montreal is not moving Barron + 1st for PLD let alone adding Kidney, Roy and a 2nd just to include Pionk. We are not paying 2 1sts + a good prospect for someone we can wait 1 year to sign. Montreal is not without leverage here and Hughes and Chevy aren't going to be out to screw each other either, the package has to make sense for both sides not just the Jets. Montreal needs Barron more than they need to get PLD a year early.
Apr. 21, 2023 at 3:19 p.m.
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I mean... What would WE need to add for 3 years of Pionk?


I can't see WPG trade their 2RD unless they're rebuilding next summer. If so, i guess a late 1st and B prospect would be the price.

MTL should trade for Bouchard next summer if Oilers don't have cap space for him.
Apr. 21, 2023 at 3:20 p.m.
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Everyone leaving as soon as they can??? Connor...Ehlers...Scheifele...Morrissey...Wheeler...


I think you understand the gist of what I meant.
Apr. 21, 2023 at 3:21 p.m.
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Barron just isn't happening. We are trying to add to our core group of young players.
Moving one core player for another core player, means no net gain regardless of what else is involved.
We have plenty of center possibilities internally and almost none at RHD. Anyone older and/or short term is only a stop-gap measure and doesn't make sense if you're increasing the gap you need to cover by trading away up and coming roster players.


If that means MTL keep FLA 2023 1st, i would give Barron and MTL 2023 2nd for PLD.
Apr. 21, 2023 at 3:23 p.m.
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Everyone leaving as soon as they can??? Connor...Ehlers...Scheifele...Morrissey...Wheeler...


If PLD, Scheifele and Hellebyuck are not extending long term this summer, they're most likely traded.
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Apr. 21, 2023 at 3:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Jetman
u daft? Barron is part of the Dubois trade. read what I wrote.

Roy and a 2nd for Pionk.

A first and a good prospect and something else for Dubois...Barron, FLA 1st and your Kidney


You laughed at the original ACGM. Anyone with the slightest bit of perception can tell your idea of value. Most Habs fans laugh at this ACGM offer but with reason. Not sure why you laughed besides trolling.
Apr. 21, 2023 at 3:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Jetman
u daft? Barron is part of the Dubois trade. read what I wrote.

Roy and a 2nd for Pionk.

A first and a good prospect and something else for Dubois...Barron, FLA 1st and your Kidney


I would do Roy and Avs 2024 2nd for Pionk. But FLA 2023 1st + Barron + Kidney for PLD is not happening. Only one of Barron or FLA 1st, with a prospect like Beck or Kidney.
 
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