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Created by: Ross_Johnston
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: May 5, 2023
Published: May 5, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$8,000,000
2$850,000
2$850,000
2$850,000
2$850,000
2$850,000
2$850,000
2$1,500,000
2$1,500,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Poulin, Samuel
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Edmundson, Joel ($1,750,000 retained)
2.
MTL
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. 2023 1st round pick (VAN)
Additional Details:
13th overall
VAN
  1. Harris, Jordan
  2. Mysak, Jan
  3. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
Additional Details:
29th overall
3.
MTL
  1. Comtois, Maxime [RFA Rights]
  2. 2025 7th round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Fairbrother, Gianni
  2. Gurianov, Denis [RFA Rights]
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$71,654,166$1,170,000$695,000$11,845,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Caufield, Cole
$8,000,000$8,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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Suzuki, Nick
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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Anderson, Josh
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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Dach, Kirby
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
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Gallagher, Brendan
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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Waivers ExemptPoulin, Samuel
$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 1
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Dvorak, Christian
$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Ylönen, Jesse
$850,000$850,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Comtois, Maxime
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW
RFA - 1
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Evans, Jake
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
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Pezzetta, Michael
$850,000$850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Matheson, Michael
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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Myers, Tyler
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Allen, Jake
$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Waivers ExemptGuhle, Kaiden
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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Savard, David
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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Montembeault, Samuel
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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Waivers ExemptXhekaj, Arber
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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Waivers ExemptBarron, Justin
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Kovacevic, Johnathan
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
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Price, Carey
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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Condotta, Lucas
$850,000$850,000
C, LW
UFA - 2

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May 5, 2023 at 2:37 p.m.
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mv21227
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Canucks aren’t doing that. They’ll just pay a mid round pick to dump Myers, not move down 18 spots in the 1st round
May 5, 2023 at 2:38 p.m.
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pens1991
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no thanks.
May 5, 2023 at 3:08 p.m.
#3
Blasphem_Guy
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Quoting: mv21227
Canucks aren’t doing that. They’ll just pay a mid round pick to dump Myers, not move down 18 spots in the 1st round


TOR paid a late 1st to CAR to dump Marleau @5M.
CAL paid a late 1st to MTL to dump Monahan @6M.
VGK gave away Pacioretty for free to CAR to get rid of 7M cap hit.

How much do you think it would cost for Myers @6M ?
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May 5, 2023 at 3:10 p.m.
#4
mbaer84
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I wanna know the two teams winning the draft lottery at 1-2% odds thats dropping the Canucks to 13th.
May 5, 2023 at 3:29 p.m.
#5
Juiceman
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Quoting: Blasphem_Guy
TOR paid a late 1st to CAR to dump Marleau 5M.
CAL paid a late 1st to MTL to dump Monahan 6M.
VGK gave away Pacioretty for free to CAR to get rid of 7M cap hit.

How much do you think it would cost for Myers 6M ?


Canucks keep him then. Not jumping down 18 spots to dump a contract we don’t need to
May 5, 2023 at 3:54 p.m.
#6
FrostyDog75
Thats an insult
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Quoting: Blasphem_Guy
TOR paid a late 1st to CAR to dump Marleau 5M.
CAL paid a late 1st to MTL to dump Monahan 6M.
VGK gave away Pacioretty for free to CAR to get rid of 7M cap hit.

How much do you think it would cost for Myers 6M ?


11OA is not a late 1st round pick
May 5, 2023 at 4:02 p.m.
#7
GoGuins18
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No from the Pens
May 5, 2023 at 4:03 p.m.
#8
ohmyjlord
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If Vancouver wants to dump Myers, chances are it would indeed cost them a 1st.
...but it'll probably be a protected 1st in 2024. Not a Top-15 in 2023.
May 5, 2023 at 4:24 p.m.
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BigShoots
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Quoting: Blasphem_Guy
TOR paid a late 1st to CAR to dump Marleau 5M.
CAL paid a late 1st to MTL to dump Monahan 6M.
VGK gave away Pacioretty for free to CAR to get rid of 7M cap hit.

How much do you think it would cost for Myers 6M ?


Maybe a 3rd. He's still capable of playing top 4 minutes. He is a good vet. His actual salary will be 1 mil. These are all appealing to teams.

When you go over the cap because you just signed a UFA that is when you see those pure cap dump moves with a 1st attached. From that POV its we are gonna sign Kadri and immediately trade Monahan and 1st for nothing. So essentially you get Kadri for Monahan and a 1st. They aren't great comparisons though.
May 5, 2023 at 4:32 p.m.
#10
Ross_Johnston
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Quoting: ohmyjlord
If Vancouver wants to dump Myers, chances are it would indeed cost them a 1st.
...but it'll probably be a protected 1st in 2024. Not a Top-15 in 2023.


I think people are really under valuing Jordan harris here. He's a top 4, 22 year old defenceman
May 5, 2023 at 4:43 p.m.
#11
Epic_Ninja_Dude
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Canucks decline. They won’t move their 1st to dump Myers. If that’s what other teams demand to take him, then they’ll just keep him.
May 5, 2023 at 4:46 p.m.
#12
ohmyjlord
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Quoting: stephane_robidas
I think people are really under valuing Jordan harris here. He's a top 4, 22 year old defenceman

Oh, I agree. I wouldn't make that trade at all. Personally, I would ask to go from 29 to 13 just to take Myers contract...nothing added, no Harris, no Mysak.
I just don't think VAN would be interested in doing that, as a more realistic scenario (should they really want to move Myers) would be to pay a protected 1st next year, instead of dangling their 13th this year.
 
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