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Bad but Better

Created by: Ross_Johnston
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: May 5, 2023
Published: May 5, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$8,000,000
2$850,000
2$850,000
2$850,000
2$850,000
2$850,000
2$850,000
2$1,500,000
2$1,500,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Poulin, Samuel
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Edmundson, Joel ($1,750,000 retained)
2.
MTL
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. 2023 1st round pick (VAN)
Additional Details:
13th overall
VAN
  1. Harris, Jordan
  2. Mysak, Jan
  3. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
Additional Details:
29th overall
3.
MTL
  1. Comtois, Maxime [RFA Rights]
  2. 2025 7th round pick (ANA)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the VGK
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
2024
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the EDM
2025
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the ANA
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$73,579,166$1,170,000$695,000$9,920,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$8,000,000$8,000,000
LW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,450,000$4,450,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$850,000$850,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW
UFA
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$850,000$850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,850,000$3,850,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$850,000$850,000
LW
UFA - 2

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May 5 at 2:37 p.m.
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Canucks aren’t doing that. They’ll just pay a mid round pick to dump Myers, not move down 18 spots in the 1st round
May 5 at 2:38 p.m.
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pens1991
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no thanks.
May 5 at 3:08 p.m.
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Tabarnak
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Quoting: mv21227
Canucks aren’t doing that. They’ll just pay a mid round pick to dump Myers, not move down 18 spots in the 1st round


TOR paid a late 1st to CAR to dump Marleau @5M.
CAL paid a late 1st to MTL to dump Monahan @6M.
VGK gave away Pacioretty for free to CAR to get rid of 7M cap hit.

How much do you think it would cost for Myers @6M ?
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May 5 at 3:10 p.m.
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matt
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I wanna know the two teams winning the draft lottery at 1-2% odds thats dropping the Canucks to 13th.
May 5 at 3:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Blasphem_Guy
TOR paid a late 1st to CAR to dump Marleau 5M.
CAL paid a late 1st to MTL to dump Monahan 6M.
VGK gave away Pacioretty for free to CAR to get rid of 7M cap hit.

How much do you think it would cost for Myers 6M ?


Canucks keep him then. Not jumping down 18 spots to dump a contract we don’t need to
May 5 at 3:54 p.m.
#6
Thats an insult
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Quoting: Blasphem_Guy
TOR paid a late 1st to CAR to dump Marleau 5M.
CAL paid a late 1st to MTL to dump Monahan 6M.
VGK gave away Pacioretty for free to CAR to get rid of 7M cap hit.

How much do you think it would cost for Myers 6M ?


11OA is not a late 1st round pick
May 5 at 4:02 p.m.
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No from the Pens
May 5 at 4:03 p.m.
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If Vancouver wants to dump Myers, chances are it would indeed cost them a 1st.
...but it'll probably be a protected 1st in 2024. Not a Top-15 in 2023.
May 5 at 4:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Blasphem_Guy
TOR paid a late 1st to CAR to dump Marleau 5M.
CAL paid a late 1st to MTL to dump Monahan 6M.
VGK gave away Pacioretty for free to CAR to get rid of 7M cap hit.

How much do you think it would cost for Myers 6M ?


Maybe a 3rd. He's still capable of playing top 4 minutes. He is a good vet. His actual salary will be 1 mil. These are all appealing to teams.

When you go over the cap because you just signed a UFA that is when you see those pure cap dump moves with a 1st attached. From that POV its we are gonna sign Kadri and immediately trade Monahan and 1st for nothing. So essentially you get Kadri for Monahan and a 1st. They aren't great comparisons though.
May 5 at 4:32 p.m.
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Quoting: ohmyjlord
If Vancouver wants to dump Myers, chances are it would indeed cost them a 1st.
...but it'll probably be a protected 1st in 2024. Not a Top-15 in 2023.


I think people are really under valuing Jordan harris here. He's a top 4, 22 year old defenceman
May 5 at 4:43 p.m.
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Canucks decline. They won’t move their 1st to dump Myers. If that’s what other teams demand to take him, then they’ll just keep him.
May 5 at 4:46 p.m.
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Quoting: stephane_robidas
I think people are really under valuing Jordan harris here. He's a top 4, 22 year old defenceman

Oh, I agree. I wouldn't make that trade at all. Personally, I would ask to go from 29 to 13 just to take Myers contract...nothing added, no Harris, no Mysak.
I just don't think VAN would be interested in doing that, as a more realistic scenario (should they really want to move Myers) would be to pay a protected 1st next year, instead of dangling their 13th this year.
 
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