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Blow it up commiting nearly 40M of cap to 4 players wont work

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Team: 2023-24 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: May 15, 2023
Published: May 15, 2023
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Draisaitl 0 goals last 4 playoff games, can't play when the lights are brightest. Needs the PP to succeed and doesn't have a future with the Oil. Need to shore up the D and bottom 6 to make it anywhere.
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3$5,250,000
2$850,000
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1$800,000
1$1,800,000
1$925,000
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May 15, 2023 at 10:06 a.m.
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I love Sanderson and I do think he's an elite defenseman but even as a sens fan there is no way edmonton would do this lol
May 15, 2023 at 10:08 a.m.
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Ok 2 questions:

1) with DeBrincat signed for 7.75 vs Draisaitl's 8.5, isn't that like trading 4 quarters for 50 cents?
2) Sanderson & the 1st are valuable, don't get me wrong, but the Oilers are going to have a hard enough time signing and retaining Bouchard, how does having more star players to sign help them when you only created 3.5M in cap relief?

If you wanted to make a deal for Draisaitl, I think you need to start with including Nurse in the deal. Nurse is the problem, not Draisaitl.
May 15, 2023 at 10:08 a.m.
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Quoting: GDubb2Shiesty
I love Sanderson and I do think he's an elite defenseman but even as a sens fan there is no way edmonton would do this lol


Why? Leon Fraudsaitl can't score in the playoffs. Getting a couple younger assets and shoring up the D makes the team a lot more rounded to win when it matters most
May 15, 2023 at 10:10 a.m.
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Why? Leon Fraudsaitl can't score in the playoffs. Getting a couple younger assets and shoring up the D makes the team a lot more rounded to win when it matters most


oh lol it took me a second to realize that this is just a Leafs' fans weird spite post and not an actual acgm
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May 15, 2023 at 10:13 a.m.
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Ok 2 questions:

1) with DeBrincat signed for 7.75 vs Draisaitl's 8.5, isn't that like trading 4 quarters for 50 cents?
2) Sanderson & the 1st are valuable, don't get me wrong, but the Oilers are going to have a hard enough time signing and retaining Bouchard, how does having more star players to sign help them when you only created 3.5M in cap relief?

If you wanted to make a deal for Draisaitl, I think you need to start with including Nurse in the deal. Nurse is the problem, not Draisaitl.


1) DeBrincat, as a protégé of Kane and Toews, knows what it takes to win. A lower cap hit (plus more term) matters when cups are all that matters. DeBrincat also had a legendary season with Connor in 2014/15 so they reunite.
2) Only fraudulent teams care about the cap next season. Go all in. All the matters is the next chance to win the cup. Worry about paying for it later
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May 15, 2023 at 10:18 a.m.
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Draisaitl has 50 points in his last 30 playoff games, Its absurd that you are calling him out.
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May 15, 2023 at 10:20 a.m.
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Why? Leon Fraudsaitl can't score in the playoffs. Getting a couple younger assets and shoring up the D makes the team a lot more rounded to win when it matters most


Since when is someone who scores 13 goals and 18 points in 12 games someone who cant score in the playoffs? Sens would run off with that trade
May 15, 2023 at 10:22 a.m.
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1) DeBrincat, as a protégé of Kane and Toews, knows what it takes to win. A lower cap hit (plus more term) matters when cups are all that matters. DeBrincat also had a legendary season with Connor in 2014/15 so they reunite.
2) Only fraudulent teams care about the cap next season. Go all in. All the matters is the next chance to win the cup. Worry about paying for it later


DeBrincat is just categorically worse than Draisaitl... And by a lot. You are paying almost the same money for a much worse player (I am not saying he's bad... Just worse than a top 10 player in the league).

This whole post is wonky... You are preaching cap relief... But you are asking the Oilers to trade one of their best cap value contracts.

I get that you are saying the renewal will be expensive, but this is for the player the best player in the world thinks is the best player in the world on many nights.

If you want him, you have to leave the Oilers in something they can sell to their fan base as a better financial position against the cap. You have not done that. Not even close.
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May 15, 2023 at 10:22 a.m.
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Quoting: BankersBox
Draisaitl has 50 points in his last 30 playoff games, Its absurd that you are calling him out.


Fraudsaitl scores on the PP in games 1-4. When the chips are down, does he step up, or does he go 4 games with one measly assist? How can you win if your biggest players aren't performing. He had 50%(!!!) of his playoff points this year on the PP. When will the soft Oilers learn that you just simply aren't going to get calls going your way in the playoffs
May 15, 2023 at 10:24 a.m.
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Leafs fans are weird! Biggest inferiority complex among fans. 'Rent free' Just accept that Matthews/Marner arent in the same universe as Mcdavid/Draisaitl.
May 15, 2023 at 10:24 a.m.
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DeBrincat is just categorically worse than Draisaitl... And by a lot. You are paying almost the same money for a much worse player (I am not saying he's bad... Just worse than a top 10 player in the league).

This whole post is wonky... You are preaching cap relief... But you are asking the Oilers to trade one of their best cap value contracts.

I get that you are saying the renewal will be expensive, but this is for the player the best player in the world thinks is the best player in the world on many nights.

If you want him, you have to leave the Oilers in something they can sell to their fan base as a better financial position against the cap. You have not done that. Not even close.


Leaving the whims of an organization to 2 players who have not produced the results you've wanted is what losers do. Good teams make hard choices when it matters most. Leon and Connor have gotten everything they've asked for but haven't been able to get out of the Western conference. For an organization with a history like theirs, regular season stats just simply don't matter.
May 15, 2023 at 10:25 a.m.
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oh lol it took me a second to realize that this is just a Leafs' fans weird spite post and not an actual acgm


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Leafs fans are weird! Biggest inferiority complex among fans. 'Rent free' Just accept that Matthews/Marner arent in the same universe as Mcdavid/Draisaitl.


This post has nothing to do with the Leafs? There are universal truths in hockey. I'm simply addressing the root cause of the issue that the Oilers big guys simply don't have the will to win, and when it matters most, they fold
May 15, 2023 at 10:27 a.m.
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This post has nothing to do with the Leafs? There are universal truths in hockey. I'm simply addressing the root cause of the issue that the Oilers big guys simply don't have the will to win, and when it matters most, they fold


Cry more. Is this Dom from theathletic?
May 15, 2023 at 10:31 a.m.
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Leaving the whims of an organization to 2 players who have not produced the results you've wanted is what losers do. Good teams make hard choices when it matters most. Leon and Connor have gotten everything they've asked for but haven't been able to get out of the Western conference. For an organization with a history like theirs, regular season stats just simply don't matter.


Those 2 players are not the problem. The Oilers took a meaningful step forward this season/playoffs.

They need to find a way to move on from the nurse deal if they can, but other than that, their cap table is actually much healthier than the Leafs.

Bouchard with another year to develop and moving some players like Yamamoto & Ceci for cheaper deals... Worst case they would be better off moving Hyman or buying him out that taking this deal.
May 15, 2023 at 10:31 a.m.
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Cry more. Is this Dom from theathletic?


Stop deflecting. Can you actually tell me what's wrong with the post? For a guy who seems to comment on a lot of Leafs related post, I think you'd have an appreciation for another pair of big regular season performers failing year after year in the playoffs?
May 15, 2023 at 10:33 a.m.
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Those 2 players are not the problem. The Oilers took a meaningful step forward this season/playoffs.

They need to find a way to move on from the nurse deal if they can, but other than that, their cap table is actually much healthier than the Leafs.

Bouchard with another year to develop and moving some players like Yamamoto & Ceci for cheaper deals... Worst case they would be better off moving Hyman or buying him out that taking this deal.


Meaningful step forward by... winning less games this year than last year? Having less cap flexibility? No meaningful prospects coming up? They regressed. McDavid had a really good regular season but at the end of the day no one cares. No one is taking Nurse and they have too much cap tied up for too long. Either they win next year with guys who care about winning or they've run their course as a core
May 15, 2023 at 10:35 a.m.
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Meaningful step forward by... winning less games this year than last year? Having less cap flexibility? No meaningful prospects coming up? They regressed. McDavid had a really good regular season but at the end of the day no one cares. No one is taking Nurse and they have too much cap tied up for too long. Either they win next year with guys who care about winning or they've run their course as a core


Not really. They have only run their course if McDavid & Draisaitl want to leave. If they are willing to take discounts to stay, they can actually keep this thing going for another 6 years.
May 15, 2023 at 10:42 a.m.
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I love Sanderson and I do think he's an elite defenseman but even as a sens fan there is no way edmonton would do this lol


As good as Draisaitl is, Ottawa is not doing that for sure.

What is important for them is to look at contracts first. Draisatil has only 2 years left before UFA. Taking him without guarantee that he would stay is way too risky. Plus, how much he'd make on his next contract? If he gets 13.5 AAV, there's a big difference in value vs his current contract

Sanderson is also not for trade, he's a pure gem with a possible 9 more years under control

Because of Draisaitl term left, this is an overpay

As crazy as it sounds, Draisaitl is also not the type of player the Sens need

Needs are :

- new GM, that's the basis for me. Someone who has a bit of foresight, can do some healthy asset management and has some grasp of how to construct a roster properly

- new coaching staff who knows what is 2-way hockey

- 1A or 1B goalie. Forsberg is good, need another guy like him. Gustavsson-Forsberg would have been a great duo!

- Defensive RHD to play with Chabot. Like Erik Karlsson before, he needs his Methot (Chychrun is a very good player but that was again, not the real need)

- 2 middle-6 forwards who are good at 2-way hockey. Nick Paul and Connor Brown should have never been traded. Alex Formenton could be back but we have no idea about it so can't expect it. Ridly Greig will develop into one but shouldn't be thrown to the wolves.

Ideally you trade DeBrincat and with the cap space and assets gained, you fill the 2 spots here more adequately :

Tkachuk - Stutzle - ??????
?????? - Norris - Batherson
Greig - Pinto - Giroux
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May 15, 2023 at 10:44 a.m.
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Hawks might consider this
May 15, 2023 at 11:26 a.m.
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Why would the Hawks take on Foegele when Anderson isn't necessary?
May 15, 2023 at 11:32 a.m.
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Draisaitl can't perform hahhaha. lolololol. Look at his playoff stats bro.
May 15, 2023 at 1:48 p.m.
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Draisaitl can't perform hahhaha. lolololol. Look at his playoff stats bro.


Last 4 games:
0-1-1 and -7

Yeah, that's who I want in crunch time
 
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