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May 18, 2023 at 11:29 p.m.
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It's about time they relocate
May 19, 2023 at 7:36 a.m.
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Houston is 100% getting a team soon, whether that’s by relocation or expansion
May 19, 2023 at 10:54 a.m.
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In an ideal world Quebec would get the Nordiques back.
The best realistic option would be Houston.
Rumors seem to indicate that the easiest logistical option is Salt Lake City.
May 19, 2023 at 11:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Bflo_Soldier
In an ideal world Quebec would get the Nordiques back.
The best realistic option would be Houston.
Rumors seem to indicate that the easiest logistical option is Salt Lake City.


Salt Lake City is a tiny market and there’s no rivals for them as they’re so isolated from every other team in the central, with Houston you get a big market and a rival in the stars
May 19, 2023 at 11:35 a.m.
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Salt Lake City is a tiny market and there’s no rivals for them as they’re so isolated from every other team in the central, with Houston you get a big market and a rival in the stars


I agree. That's why I said Houston is the best realistic option.
May 19, 2023 at 12:32 p.m.
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Salt Lake City is a tiny market and there’s no rivals for them as they’re so isolated from every other team in the central, with Houston you get a big market and a rival in the stars


Salt Lake City isn't actually a small market, It has a huge suburban area btw
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May 19, 2023 at 3:49 p.m.
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I don't think they relocate to Houston. Tilman Fertitta wants a team, so Houston seems to be an expansion team in my opinion.
May 19, 2023 at 4:07 p.m.
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I don't think they relocate to Houston. Tilman Fertitta wants a team, so Houston seems to be an expansion team in my opinion.


Can’t he just buy the Coyotes, then relocate them?
May 19, 2023 at 4:20 p.m.
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Salt Lake City is a tiny market and there’s no rivals for them as they’re so isolated from every other team in the central, with Houston you get a big market and a rival in the stars


Well I mean there right next to Colorado who is pretty well isolated. But yeah Salt Lake isn't the place. I think it's gotta be Houston just based on how damn big the city has become, and the rivalry with Dallas or Milwaukee/Madison. QC would do well cause the nordiques, but I think Texas or Wisconsin makes more sense. If it's QC that means someone in eastern time is going to move to the west. First candidates are Detroit and Columbus who already suffered through that having to play in the west for eternity. I think we should stay put at 32. 33,34, or 35 makes thing mathematically weird before you get to 36 and it's just too damn big at that point. 32 is the perfect number in my mind.
May 19, 2023 at 4:22 p.m.
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Well I mean there right next to Colorado who is pretty well isolated. But yeah Salt Lake isn't the place. I think it's gotta be Houston just based on how damn big the city has become, and the rivalry with Dallas or Milwaukee/Madison. QC would do well cause the nordiques, but I think Texas or Wisconsin makes more sense. If it's QC that means someone in eastern time is going to move to the west. First candidates are Detroit and Columbus who already suffered through that having to play in the west for eternity. I think we should stay put at 32. 33,34, or 35 makes thing mathematically weird and it's just so damn big at that point. 32 is the perfect number in my mind.


I have to agree it makes no sense for CBJ to be in the west but all of Detroit's rivals are in the west, Chicago, Colorado, etc had some huge rivalries with Detroit that are now gone since they barely meat each other, Detroit may not like it due to geographical reasons but rivalry wise, the west makes sense for Detroit
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May 19, 2023 at 5:25 p.m.
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I have to agree it makes no sense for CBJ to be in the west but all of Detroit's rivals are in the west, Chicago, Colorado, etc had some huge rivalries with Detroit that are now gone since they barely meat each other, Detroit may not like it due to geographical reasons but rivalry wise, the west makes sense for Detroit


Agreed. I hated that when I was a kid. I'm from Michigan and I rarely watched a big game in full cause they all ran late lol. Only rivalry they have now really is Toronto, Pittsburgh and maybe a small one with Boston jus cuz of the original 6. It's nothing like it was with them in the west tho. Every team hated Detroit
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May 19, 2023 at 7:37 p.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
Salt Lake City is a tiny market and there’s no rivals for them as they’re so isolated from every other team in the central, with Houston you get a big market and a rival in the stars


Colorado is like 8 hours from Salt Lake and 6 Hours from Vegas if you want to make a Pacific Division arguement
May 19, 2023 at 8:18 p.m.
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What about Kansas City? Would make a great rivalry vs Colorado once the Coyotes becomes a decent and respectable team again.
May 20, 2023 at 9:24 a.m.
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If staying in the central then:

rankings by TV Market:
7) Houston
11) Phoenix
25) Indianapolis
29) Salt Lake City
31) San Antonio
33) Kansas City
35) Austin
38) MIlwaukee
42) Grand Rapids
46) Oklahoma City
48) Louisville
49) Albuquerque
50) New Orleans
52) Memphis

https://ustvdb.com/seasons/2022-23/markets/

Quebec ranks slightly ahead of Winnipeg in Canadian TV market size but I can't find comparable numbers for actual TV "DMA rankings"

The smallest TV market in the NHL currently is Buffalo at #54 so I didn't list any city below that.

Cities that are "close" (would require a slight re-alignment of teams/division or an acceptable overlap):
19) Cleveland
20) Sacramento
22) Portland
30) San Diego
36) Cincinnati
May 20, 2023 at 11:07 a.m.
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I personally want to see a second Toronto team.

I think that would be the most entertaining of all possible choices.

A sea of endless meme potential.
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May 20, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.
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Ideally it would be best to revive the Nordiques which would give Canada 8/32 teams, 4 in the East and 4 in the West. However, moving Detroit or Columbus to the West would not be a good idea. What about adding 2 expansion teams in the West, relocating the Coyotes to Quebec City once the 2 Western expansion teams are ready, and bringing back the 1v8 playoff format. That would leave the conferences at 17-17 and no one at a disadvantage due to time zones or division alignment.
The schedule could stay at 82 games as well if each team played 2 games vs every team in the opposing conference and 3 games against every other team within their own conference.
May 20, 2023 at 1:27 p.m.
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Hartford…



May 20, 2023 at 1:34 p.m.
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Houston
Kansas City
Milwaukee
Austin

I’d bet it’s one of those
May 20, 2023 at 7:46 p.m.
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Hartford…





Wow. How'd the meeting go?
May 22, 2023 at 12:54 p.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
Can’t he just buy the Coyotes, then relocate them?


Well of course, but to my knowledge they aren't for sale. Just homeless.
May 24, 2023 at 10:58 a.m.
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Well of course, but to my knowledge they aren't for sale. Just homeless.


Technically yes; but the NHL Board of Governors will step in (eventually) and force the situation. If the current ownership can't get a deal in Phoenix area, then they have to be willing and able to relocate them, if they can't get that deal done then they will be forced to sell.

If I remember correctly, the NHL touted the ownership group in Arizona because they had connections to legalized gambling in the state. Not sure how any of that factors into relocation issues.
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