You could probably keep Johannesson. The value is fine without him for us.

I'd do it without stanley. Dont want any chance that coaching may play him.

Have seen some Detroit fans say it's a bit too much so I added him just to sweeten it slightly

He could be a good 7th dman still but fair he can take some damn dumb penalties

Sabres accept

got like 3 7th d-men masquerading as 3rd pair players so we're pretty much capped out there

Honestly if I had my choice I would just say an equivalent value draft pick. That would likely be better for us since we can use it down the line for something. Honestly I would do this trade as is without him though.

I still have a problem with including both the 23 first and one of the firsts from last draft. In less there's a reasonable extension in place, there needs to be either a fetch to next year's first or a lesser prospect.

Yeah could just include a 4th and trade stanley elsewhere for a similar return to what we include

Honestly this is really good. Good detail in the trades, reasoning is sound. I think there will be some push back from Vancouver but that trade would help them try and turn it around. Demelo is really underrated. Not going to move Nino or try and find a home for Wheeler?

Just felt like I had the trades that I wanted and was struggling on those Destinations and returns

Ah, come on. It’s worth keeping him in there just to confuse everyone with all the variations of A. Johannsen’s we’ll have in the system.

Canucks are not trading a good middle 6 forward and a first round pick for a 30 year old bottom 4 defenseman....

Lol I did think about that honestly. Would be hilarious. I'm hoping we get Willander.

Fair enough just need a rhd like him and clear cap in the same move seems like something positive but like I said in the trade it probably isn't for everyone

I do like him too, haha. Wallinder/Willander pairing would actually be vunderful.

I would probably attempt to get the value out of Connor/Dillon and niedereiter also, everybody else probably needs to get shined up a bit to move. Possibly ehlers also. I would be more choked if the jets go on a mediocre run than a bottom out, still believe they need to tear it right down and build back stronger than attempt a retool on the fly. But feel free to call i told you so if they manage to pull it off.

If Kuznetsov isn’t worth a first, Scheifele isn’t either

Capitals say **** no and then puke on the phone. That 1st alone is worth more than Scheifele.

How many points did Kuznetsov have this year? 55? Also has a 15 no trade list which is half the league and with how cap strapped the majority of the league he isn't worth more. Scheifele on the other hand had 42 goals this year (Kuznetsov career high is 27) and only has 10 teams he can't be traded to with a cap hit 1.6m cheaper. The fact is Kuznetsov had a down year and simply wouldn't get value based on him being able to eliminate teams that would want him and the rest wouldn't trade for him. Scheifele on the other hand can be retained at 3m and how many guys can be acquired that scored 40 goals and has 3m cap hit that a team would actually move. So no Scheifele > Kuznetsov and it makes sense why.

A 20th something first that's probably protected and is no guarantee to become scheifele for a guy that scored 40 goals and can be had at a 3m cap hit. It's a fair deal and others agree

I just can't imagine Vancouver is interested in that. They'd definitely rather just get Garland out on his own and wait out Myers contract than do a 1st.

Others are idiots. The Capitals are picking 8th Overall THIS year. They’re absolutely not trading any first in the foreseeable future for a guy in his 30s who is declining, no matter how much you retain, that’s stupid no matter what “others” say.

It's fair value wise maybe not the right team but if scheifele was to be traded this type of return on another team would be the base. Don't get butt hurt I picked the wrong team sorry I couldn't be perfect for you

Scheifele will not return any Top 10 Pick from any team.