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Sens obviously win the cup

Created by: MrGilmour18
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 7, 2023
Published: Jun. 7, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$8,300,000
2$1,950,000
3$2,950,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,250,000
3$1,500,000
6$4,500,000
3$2,250,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. 2023 1st round pick (DET)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
2.
PHI
  1. Forsberg, Anton
  2. 2023 1st round pick (DET)
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
3.
OTT
  1. Hartman, Ryan
Additional Details:
Extension
MIN
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
  2. 2024 4th round pick (TBL)
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (OTT)
4.
OTT
  1. 2023 5th round pick (VGK)
ARI
  1. Joseph, Mathieu
  2. 2025 2nd round pick (OTT)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
Logo of the OTT
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,500,000$82,828,880$0$1,850,000$671,120
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$2,950,000$2,950,000
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
$2,250,000$2,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
$1,500,000$1,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$3,979,000$3,979,000
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$925,000$925,000
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$1,950,000$1,950,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1

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Jun. 7, 2023 at 9:18 p.m.
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Did you not pay attention to any of the criticism of the DeBrincat trade from Red Wings fans?
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Jun. 7, 2023 at 9:23 p.m.
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Yes i did. I just think it’s non sense. A two time 40 goal guy who had a down year and still netted 27, who’s eligible to sign a long extension, who’s 25 years old, can easily fetch a 1st and 2nd. Cmon.
Jun. 7, 2023 at 9:26 p.m.
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How many years has Detroit been terrible? They really wanna hold on to no.9 pick and wait 5 years for the kid to develop MAYBE. Debrincat is legit and your nuts to think otherwise
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Jun. 7, 2023 at 9:28 p.m.
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Flyers accept
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Jun. 7, 2023 at 9:36 p.m.
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Quoting: MrGilmour18
Yes i did. I just think it’s non sense. A two time 40 goal guy who had a down year and still netted 27, who’s eligible to sign a long extension, who’s 25 years old, can easily fetch a 1st and 2nd. Cmon.

You're charging a 40 goalscorer cost on a player that didn't break 30 this year lol. You even mentioned that he only got 27; so don't charge him as if he got more.

Quoting: MrGilmour18
How many years has Detroit been terrible? They really wanna hold on to no.9 pick and wait 5 years for the kid to develop MAYBE. Debrincat is legit and your nuts to think otherwise


Rushing a rebuild is how you end up in mediocrity and failing to even have cup expectations. Dorion said the rebuild in Ottawa was finished and they failed to make the playoffs. But now they have very few assets to fill up those holes. DeBrincat is the only one I can think of, but is it enough to turn this team into a contender?

As for 5+ years, how long do you think prospects take? Unless it's a goalie prospect, 3 years is the very latest lol. You expect whoever is available at 9 to be on DeBrincat's level; not hope.
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Jun. 7, 2023 at 9:37 p.m.
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Yes i did. I just think it’s non sense. A two time 40 goal guy who had a down year and still netted 27, who’s eligible to sign a long extension, who’s 25 years old, can easily fetch a 1st and 2nd. Cmon.


We have 2 firsts. Detroit isn't in the business of throwing top 15 picks away. I get you guys are, but thats not the Wings path. We'll offer 17 and maybe add a player or a later pick to it, but you aren't getting 9. Period.
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Jun. 7, 2023 at 9:45 p.m.
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Fair enough. The opportunity to lock in a guy for 8 years, who’s only 25, whos hometown is DET, who’s scored 40 twice in 6 years (would of been 3 times if not for short season in 2020) is appealing to a lot of people I bet and I don’t think the line in the sand is drawn over 8 slots in the draft.
Jun. 7, 2023 at 9:52 p.m.
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“As for 5+ years, how long do you think prospects take? Unless it's a goalie prospect, 3 years is the very latest lol. You expect whoever is available at 9 to be on DeBrincat's level; not hope.”


Okay, go back to 2020 draft and tell me (outside of the top 5 cuz the DET pick is no.9) who is an established NHLer 3 years after getting drafted
Jun. 7, 2023 at 10:28 p.m.
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Minnesota isn't trading Hartman fir a bunch of nothing picks..they can wait until deadline without extension and still get a 1st especially on the contract he's on
Jun. 7, 2023 at 10:55 p.m.
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GMs will take the original Cat to OTT trade as a base then lessen it due to his lesser performance this year. They would still consider the past, but they won't trade more for a player who produced less then when he was first traded. It doesn't help that he isn't signed, because he can just hold out.
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Jun. 7, 2023 at 11:04 p.m.
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Flyers accept but DET prob doesn’t
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Jun. 7, 2023 at 11:51 p.m.
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PlusMinus is stupid
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Detroit isn't trading 9OA
Jun. 8, 2023 at 2:00 a.m.
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AZ doesnt want Joseph - 3 mil for 3 more years for a bottom 6 - rather let one of our kids take that spot
Jun. 8, 2023 at 6:08 a.m.
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Quoting: MrGilmour18
“As for 5+ years, how long do you think prospects take? Unless it's a goalie prospect, 3 years is the very latest lol. You expect whoever is available at 9 to be on DeBrincat's level; not hope.”


Okay, go back to 2020 draft and tell me (outside of the top 5 cuz the DET pick is no.9) who is an established NHLer 3 years after getting drafted


Mercer, Jarvis, Peterkka, Drysdale, Lundell. All of these guys have ~a seasons worth of Games played.
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Jun. 8, 2023 at 6:31 a.m.
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Quoting: MrGilmour18
“As for 5+ years, how long do you think prospects take? Unless it's a goalie prospect, 3 years is the very latest lol. You expect whoever is available at 9 to be on DeBrincat's level; not hope.”


Okay, go back to 2020 draft and tell me (outside of the top 5 cuz the DET pick is no.9) who is an established NHLer 3 years after getting drafted


2020 non top 5 picks who are established NHLers: Drysdale, Perfetti, Lundell, Mercer, Guhle, Peterka

2021 non top 5 picks who have played NHL games already: Cole Sillinger, Wyatt Johnston, Matt Knies, Simon Edvinsson,Brandt Clarke

2022 non top 5 picks who have made their NHL debut already: Marco Kasper

The "made their NHL debut" players are a near 100% chance to be full time before their d+3 year given that they've already debuted.
Jun. 8, 2023 at 8:51 a.m.
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Hart is not worth a first round pick yet alone 9th OA
 
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