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Created by: Caniac555

Team: 2023-24 Carolina Hurricanes

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 7, 2023

Published: Jun. 8, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Aggressive offers sheets…

Miller - get a solid LHD top 4 compliment to Burns, Slavin and Pesce (who agrees to a 5 year $5.25m extension).

Colton - gritty middle six winger who can play up and down the lineup and would fit the system well. Aggressive in the mould they were with KK. Up front money, long term view after Jan 1 (5-6 year deal 2.5-3.0m AAV).

PLD trade is something I’ve come around on as long as there is a 2-3 year contract and the acquisition cost isn’t huge. I know Jets fans will hate this, but I’m not sure PLD is netting a massive return unless he agrees to a mega-extension in the 8 year range with the acquiring team.

Skjei is a possible trade target prior to or at TDL.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Miller, K'Andre	5	$6,435,185
Colton, Ross	1	$4,290,124
Dubois, Pierre-Luc	3	$7,500,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Andersen, Frederik	2	$4,000,000
Fast, Jesper	2	$2,300,000
Staal, Jordan	2	$3,200,000
Barbashev, Ivan	4	$4,500,000

Offer Sheets

Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years

PLAYER	AAV	COMPENSATION
Miller, K'Andre	$6,435,185	2024 1st round pick 2024 3rd round pick
Colton, Ross	$4,290,124	2024 2nd round pick

Trades

CAR

Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
2023 5th round pick (NYR)

Additional Details:

Jets allow negotiations and PLD/Carolina agree to a shorter term deal which works out for both sides. Canes get the player, player gets money and the ability for another contract when cap is higher. Gives Canes some flexibility too.

WPG

Drury, Jack
Teräväinen, Teuvo
2023 1st round pick (CAR)

Additional Details:

Jets get a playmaking top 6 forward for this year, a young middle 6 center for the future and a 2023 1st

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$83,500,000	$82,779,726	$450,000	$500,000	$720,274

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Svechnikov, Andrei $7,750,000$7,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 6	Aho, Sebastian $8,460,250$8,460,250 C UFA - 1	Jarvis, Seth $894,167$894,167 ($500,000$500K) RW RFA - 1
Barbashev, Ivan $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 5	Dubois, Pierre-Luc $7,500,000$7,500,000 C UFA - 8	Necas, Martin $3,000,000$3,000,000 RW RFA - 1
Colton, Ross $4,290,124$4,290,124 C, LW UFA - 4	Kotkaniemi, Jesperi $4,820,000$4,820,000 C UFA - 7	Noesen, Stefan $762,500$762,500 LW, RW UFA - 1
Martinook, Jordan $1,800,000$1,800,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Staal, Jordan $3,200,000$3,200,000 C, LW UFA - 4	Fast, Jesper $2,300,000$2,300,000 RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Slavin, Jaccob $5,300,000$5,300,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Burns, Brent $5,280,000$5,280,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Andersen, Frederik $4,000,000$4,000,000 G UFA - 2
Miller, K'Andre $6,435,185$6,435,185 LD RFA - 2	Pesce, Brett $4,025,000$4,025,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Kochetkov, Pyotr $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 4
Skjei, Brady $5,250,000$5,250,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Chatfield, Jalen $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1

Jun. 8, 2023 at 9:30 a.m.

njlaforte

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Jets accept if it is the best offer. Seems like a better package then MTL would give.

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Jun. 8, 2023 at 9:32 a.m.

Ross_Johnston

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guess Aho and Pesce are walking next year

Jun. 8, 2023 at 9:32 a.m.

ecupirate07

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Rangers match.
Turbo probably doesn’t waive for Winnipeg
Too much for Ross C
Barb and PLD require more to sign

Jun. 8, 2023 at 9:32 a.m.

Caniac555

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Quite possible - I also think this would only work for the Canes if PLD wants a shorter term deal. Seems counterintuitive but Canes sweet spot might be 2-3 years and figure out the cap situation then. Might be a good win-win for player and team.

Quoting: njlaforte

Jets accept if it is the best offer. Seems like a better package then MTL would give.

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Jun. 8, 2023 at 9:33 a.m.

seanrushton

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Quoting: njlaforte

Jets accept if it is the best offer. Seems like a better package then MTL would give.

I agree, The Jets seem like they are looking for roster pieces not picks or prospects and MTL doesn't have many worth trading for outside of Suzuki and Caufield

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Jun. 8, 2023 at 9:34 a.m.

Caniac555

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Aho is already talking about a 9.75m x 8 extension with the Canes, and Pesce likely comes in around 5.2-5.5m. The cap will go up by some amount and Skjei is likely gone. Plenty of money

Quoting: stephane_robidas

guess Aho and Pesce are walking next year

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Jun. 8, 2023 at 9:47 a.m.

njlaforte

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Quoting: seanrushton

I agree, The Jets seem like they are looking for roster pieces not picks or prospects and MTL doesn't have many worth trading for outside of Suzuki and Caufield

I am very high on Drury. He would be the player I am targeting from CAR in any PLD, Scheifele, or Hellebuyck trade. MTL doesnt have the young roster players to trade. The only roster players that they would trade are dvorak, anderson, hoffman, armia and they all are cap dumps.

Jun. 8, 2023 at 9:50 a.m.

seanrushton

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Quoting: njlaforte

I agree with them being cap dumps... Drury would be a great 2C if he wasn't stuck in the lock jam of Carolina

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Jun. 8, 2023 at 9:50 a.m.

njlaforte

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Quoting: Caniac555

I don't think he is signing long-term anywhere even in MTL. I see him doing what Matthews is doing. Take a 3-5 year deal to maximize the $. I don't see many players taking long-term deals this offseason as the cap is going up soon.

Jun. 8, 2023 at 9:52 a.m.

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njlaforte

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Quoting: seanrushton

I agree with them being cap dumps... Drury would be a great 2C if he wasn't stuck in the lock jam of Carolina

The other centre I like in a PLD trade is Filp Chytil in NY. He just resigned but I think the Rangers would consider if PLD was coming back... plus Jets have a history making trades with NYR (Trouba, Hayes).

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Jun. 8, 2023 at 10:03 a.m.

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MisstheWhalers

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I like Teravainen but he likely isn't waiving for Winnipeg, Dvorak is a center with another year of term, if the Habs offered the Florida 1st with Dvorak and a prospect close to Drury's level I think the Habs trade would be better for the Jets.

Jun. 8, 2023 at 10:54 a.m.

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Caniac555

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Hurricane Waddell

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The Rangers getting PLD would be the cap gymnastics of all time. Would be fascinating to watch.

Quoting: njlaforte

Jun. 8, 2023 at 5:11 p.m.

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amullican

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Quoting: ecupirate07

Rangers match.
Turbo probably doesn’t waive for Winnipeg
Too much for Ross C
Barb and PLD require more to sign

Rangers match with what cap space? They'd still have to sign like 8 more players to ice a team after matching with only like 4-5 million in cap space

Jun. 8, 2023 at 5:14 p.m.

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amullican

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This is a fun scenario. I like it.

Jun. 8, 2023 at 5:18 p.m.

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ecupirate07

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Quoting: amullican

Rangers match with what cap space? They'd still have to sign like 8 more players to ice a team after matching with only like 4-5 million in cap space

for Miller they make it work. he is worth it. now a 1st and 3rd for Laf is a different story.

Jun. 8, 2023 at 5:20 p.m.

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Windjammer

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TT isn't waiving for Winnipeg and the Jets aren't likely looking for a rental in return.

Jun. 8, 2023 at 5:43 p.m.

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amullican

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Quoting: ecupirate07

for Miller they make it work. he is worth it. now a 1st and 3rd for Laf is a different story.

I agree that he's worth it. I just don't see how they would possibly make it work 🤷🏻‍♂️

Jun. 8, 2023 at 5:53 p.m.

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ecupirate07

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Quoting: amullican

I agree that he's worth it. I just don't see how they would possibly make it work 🤷🏻‍♂️

in the slight chance someone does this, they will move Goodrow and then try to make the pieces fit.

Jun. 8, 2023 at 6:13 p.m.

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Caniac555

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Goodrow has a lot of say here since he gets to tell the Rangers no to half the league with his M-NTC

Quoting: ecupirate07

in the slight chance someone does this, they will move Goodrow and then try to make the pieces fit.

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