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Maximizing Potential and Depth

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Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 17, 2023
Published: Jun. 17, 2023
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MTL Drafts Will Smith 5th OA
With him and our depth call up pool in the AHL we're looking Lean and Mean Faster then expected.
With Hutson, Smith and Tuch in NCAA developing as well as Kapanen,Engstrom and Nurmi in Europe.
MTL has Quality they're investing in at all level.


AHL Lines:
Farrel-Beck-Mesar
Heineman-Kidney-Simmoneau
Mysak-Dach-Roy
Condotta-Davidson-Teasdale
JPJ(6'7 Winger/Dman John Scott type player)


Beaudin-Barron
Struble-Wideman
Trudeau-Mailloux
Fairbrother

Primeau
Dobes

Is MTL a Contender? No we're still transitioning as good as this roster looks.
Can the play the underdog in the playoffs on a run? Absolutely with this depth.


I can say we are inexperienced but kept the right Leaders for the Transition.
Plus i really like the Tandem of Montembault/Lanikinen with that Dcore infront of them.
I'd love to move Dvorak out but easier to wait and give our AHL Centers time to push him out
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$925,000
2$925,000
2$925,000
2$975,000
2$975,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Bäck, Oskar
  2. Faksa, Radek
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Even if this is just to break Faksa contract down into 2 movable pieces that at that cap will have teams interested whether its waivers or trade i think it gives DAL options

DAL can play Armia or bury him at like 1.2m cap but at 1.7m i dont think he clears waivers.

Evans gives them an Center in his mid 20s who can win faceoffs.
DAL
  1. Armia, Joel ($1,700,000 retained)
  2. Evans, Jake
Additional Details:
Faksa gives MTL a 4th line C who can help during Slafkovsky's transition. Czech is to Slovak as France is to Quebec, The Language is different but based on the same core system and while it may not be proper Both cultures understand each other

The boost also will help Pezzetta and RHP as well
Back isnt NHL ready but we need AHL talent too.
Ive seen Coach Houle do more with less see A.Richard from NSH
2.
MTL
  1. Durzi, Sean
  2. Turcotte, Alex
Additional Details:
LAK -WPG-MTL 3 way deal for PLD and Hellebuyck

LAK get :
-Harris
-PLD @50% RS via WPG
-Hellebyuck @50% RS via MTL
-They Resign PLD to a 8 x 8m deal
-They Resign Hellebuyck only if he succeeds this year

MTL gets:
-Durzi
-Turcotte

WPG gets:
-LAK 1st in 2024
-LAK 2nd 54 OA
-MTL 1st 31st OA
-MTL 37th OA
-MTL 3rd round pick in 2024
-Arvidsson(pending UFA sell at TDL)
-Q.Byfield
-J.Hughes
-Jake Allen
LAK
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. Harris, Jordan
  3. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (MTL)
  5. 2024 3rd round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
LAK -WPG-MTL 3 way deal for PLD and Hellebuyck

LAK Give Up:
-Q.Byfield
-Turcotte
-Durzi
-J.Hughes
-Arvidsson
-1st in 2024
-2nd in 2023

MTL Gives Up:
-Harris
-Allen
-1st round pick
-2nd round pick
-3rd round pick
-RS 50% for LAK/WPG

WPG Gives Up:
-PLD(1 years before UFA)
-Hellebuyck(1 year before UFA)
3.
MTL
  1. Lankinen, Kevin
Additional Details:
Saros-Askarov leave Lankinen odd man out.
I suspect he'll be moved by Camps end at the latest.
NSH
  1. Hoffman, Mike ($2,250,000 retained)
  2. Vrbetic, Joe [Reserve List]
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
-RS on Hoffman so NSH can RS and flip at TDL easier
-6'6 20 year old Goalie prospect still growing into his frame but just completed his first year Pro after Junior.
-3rd round pick
4.
MTL
  1. Dach, Colton
Additional Details:
Dach finishes top 3 in Rookie scoring and the 2nd round pick becomes a 1st in 2024(top 10 protected)
CHI
  1. Norlinder, Mattias
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (COL)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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Logo of the MTL
2024
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Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the EDM
2025
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Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$67,706,666$1,170,000$5,527,500$15,793,334
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$975,000$975,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$1,550,000$2M)
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$3,250,000$3,250,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$975,000$975,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$850,833$850,833 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
C, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$1,700,000$1,700,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3

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Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:00 p.m.
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Nashville should keep Lankinen as a backup and leave Askarov as the starter in the AHL.
If they trade a goalie, it will either be Saros (to make room for Askarov) or Askarov.
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Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:01 p.m.
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Can’t move Lankinen. Askarov needs at least another full year in the AHL until he can move into a backup role
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Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:03 p.m.
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That's a big price to pay for LA
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Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:07 p.m.
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Wow Winnipeg rob everyone in that deal
Durzi and Harris are equal in value (or very very close) and no way habs give a first, a second, a third, a reliable backup and 50% retention on Hellebuyck for Turcotte
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Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:08 p.m.
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Quoting: V1NnY2
Nashville should keep Lankinen as a backup and leave Askarov as the starter in the AHL.
If they trade a goalie, it will either be Saros (to make room for Askarov) or Askarov.


oooooooo really?
Ok ill up the offer for Saros
Lanikainen just seemed more likely
I know if i was NSH Saros-Askarov would be my Tandem as Askarov still has to grow into a starter.

That said im a big Saros fan
What the cost on him
Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:14 p.m.
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Askarov still has to grow into a starter./quote]

Exactly. And the way Askarov will grow is to get a starter's workload in MIL, instead of playing backup to a workhorse goalie like Saros.
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Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:21 p.m.
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Hawks decline. They'll hang on to Dach. Check back in a couple of years.
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Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:24 p.m.
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Quoting: OkMan
Can’t move Lankinen. Askarov needs at least another full year in the AHL until he can move into a backup role


Yikes , NSH fanbase is confusing on this one
Literally like every post on here your Fanbase is trading a Goalie.

IMO you're rebuilding and refusing to give Askarov key minutes in the NHL
This just dont make sense for his development .
I mean Price played some stinkers when he started even losing 4 games in the playoffs in a sweep vs BOS as a Rookie.
But it made him into the Vezina Winner who lead MTL to 2 ECF and a SCF largely on his play
These moments define Goalies and protecting them in the AHL wont give him the same experience
Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:29 p.m.
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I like the conditions on the 2nd, but you'd have to do significantly better than Norlinder to get Dach. Even so, I doubt CHI sells prospects any time soon.
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Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Hawksguy81
Hawks decline. They'll hang on to Dach. Check back in a couple of years.


You guys said when i tried trading for his brother very similar things and your GM gave him away for much less then i offered.
I just refuse to believe he's changed that much in 1 year to "nope no trades ,no talk conversation over" approach you employed lol
If anything he's more likely to take less if i can offer him a shot at a player he likes in the 1st round like lets say Perrault if he falls out of the top 20 (son of their skills coach Yannic )
Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:32 p.m.
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LA laughs and hangs up real quick. LA isn't giving up that much at all. Ugly and outlandish.
Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Garak
I like the conditions on the 2nd, but you'd have to do significantly better than Norlinder to get Dach. Even so, I doubt CHI sells prospects any time soon.


im listening and thank you for actually focusing on the value side of the trade
Norlinder is just a piece as is the pick
Im open to another pick or prospect
What are your needs and lets go from there
Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Socal_King
LA laughs and hangs up real quick. LA isn't giving up that much at all. Ugly and outlandish.


I wait for the LAK fans who offer something to the Conversation
Trolls simply get reported for violating the Rules and Flaming
Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:36 p.m.
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That's a big price to pay for LA


It is
It was a big price for VGK to pay for Eichel
Though it was a great deal for BUF who seemed to be overpaid
Eichel made it well worth it .

Kopitar
PLD
Danault
Lizotte/Kupari

That's a pretty freaking impressive Center Core , as impressive as VGK was.
Goaltending which eliminated LAK from the playoffs is fixed and now their Dcore is as deep on LD as RD (its stacked)

Is it a lot ? 100%
Does LAK get a lot ? 100%
Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:38 p.m.
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Yikes , NSH fanbase is confusing on this one
Literally like every post on here your Fanbase is trading a Goalie.

IMO you're rebuilding and refusing to give Askarov key minutes in the NHL
This just dont make sense for his development .
I mean Price played some stinkers when he started even losing 4 games in the playoffs in a sweep vs BOS as a Rookie.
But it made him into the Vezina Winner who lead MTL to 2 ECF and a SCF largely on his play
These moments define Goalies and protecting them in the AHL wont give him the same experience


Very few of those proposals involving NSH trading one of their goalies are coming from NSH fans.

Askarov will get those minutes in the AHL next season. That's what the AHL is for. That's why they call it a development league.
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Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:43 p.m.
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I wouldn’t say Dach is untouchable but Hawks have plenty of LD in the pipeline, Norlinder would not be of interest. Dach playing w/Korchinski & Allan in Seattle gives him another level of desirability to keep. Think you would need to try harder to get them to move on from him.
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Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:57 p.m.
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Very few of those proposals involving NSH trading one of their goalies are coming from NSH fans.

Askarov will get those minutes in the AHL next season. That's what the AHL is for. That's why they call it a development league.


"I alone speak for NSH, all others dont and if they try ill discredit them as NSH Fans"
I decided to check ,NSH fans from the first page focused on Goalies and moving one of them:

AK50
Boyd1212
Jtrevethan22
Toxicelec2
Goorts
Ennis
Nash
Aecho
GreauxPreds1
ext

I stopped reading after that cause it seemed like a 50/50 mix consistently as i expected to begin with.
All im saying is stop pretending this isnt being talked about by everyone not you
Jun. 17, 2023 at 4:00 p.m.
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I wait for the LAK fans who offer something to the Conversation
Trolls simply get reported for violating the Rules and Flaming


You don't know what trolling is if you think my reply was trolling. That deal is utter outlandish. It's an 11 player and 6 pick trade which is insane. There's no way Winnipeg retains PLD for 8yrs at $4m.

LA doesn't need Harris as they can use Bjornfot over him. If they made a trade for a Montreal LHD than it would be for Xhekaj. Durzi is also more valuable than Harris or Xhekaj. So the Kings lose out on that part of the deal. 1 year of Helle and PLD is not worth Byfield, Turcotte, Hughes, Arvidsson, 1st and 2nd. If Helle doesn't resign that mean LA trades all of that for PLD. Yeah right! That kills LAs future depth. At this point with both Helle and PLD asking out of Winnipeg has hurt their values. If (and that's a big if) LA is in on the Winnipeg guys is that it would be only 1 of the guys. With them both rumored to be wanting between ($8-10m) that is too rich for LAs cap. The deal would be around Iafallo/Arvidsson, Durzi, prospect and a pick if they are makinga move (which i hope they don't). If the pick is a 1st the prospect lowers. If the pick is a 2nd or 3rd than the prospect will be better. No way should LA be moving anyone named Vilardi, Byfield or Clarke. That's their future core.

Please for the love of God send PLD to Montreal.
Jun. 17, 2023 at 4:03 p.m.
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You guys said when i tried trading for his brother very similar things and your GM gave him away for much less then i offered.
I just refuse to believe he's changed that much in 1 year to "nope no trades ,no talk conversation over" approach you employed lol
If anything he's more likely to take less if i can offer him a shot at a player he likes in the 1st round like lets say Perrault if he falls out of the top 20 (son of their skills coach Yannic )


Takes more than what is likely a late 2nd and a LD the Hawks would have no interest in to get Colton. Colton took some big strides forward in his game this season despite missing time w/ two injuries. Why would Hawks sell low on a guy who hasn't played his first pro game yet?
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Jun. 17, 2023 at 4:04 p.m.
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I wouldn’t say Dach is untouchable but Hawks have plenty of LD in the pipeline, Norlinder would not be of interest. Dach playing w/Korchinski & Allan in Seattle gives him another level of desirability to keep. Think you would need to try harder to get them to move on from him.


Ok would the Center that was their Trigger Man in Seattle be of any interest?
Dude does nothing but step up with the only Cavoite is much like Suzuki after his memorial cup run at that age people criticized his speed.
Great Player who's likely going to be our AHL teams next Captain as i think Belzile's gone as a NHL team will sign him after last year.


Im not trying to say 1 for 1 or anything
Im just offering you someone who played with those D for years versus someone who had like 29 games with them total in Dach


Same Pick , Davidson , and maybe a Winger? or is it another Center needed?
Outside that we're just full up on LD and Goalies
Jun. 17, 2023 at 4:05 p.m.
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You don't know what trolling is if you think my reply was trolling. That deal is utter outlandish. It's an 11 player and 6 pick trade which is insane. There's no way Winnipeg retains PLD for 8yrs at $4m.

LA doesn't need Harris as they can use Bjornfot over him. If they made a trade for a Montreal LHD than it would be for Xhekaj. Durzi is also more valuable than Harris or Xhekaj. So the Kings lose out on that part of the deal. 1 year of Helle and PLD is not worth Byfield, Turcotte, Hughes, Arvidsson, 1st and 2nd. If Helle doesn't resign that mean LA trades all of that for PLD. Yeah right! That kills LAs future depth. At this point with both Helle and PLD asking out of Winnipeg has hurt their values. If (and that's a big if) LA is in on the Winnipeg guys is that it would be only 1 of the guys. With them both rumored to be wanting between ($8-10m) that is too rich for LAs cap. The deal would be around Iafallo/Arvidsson, Durzi, prospect and a pick if they are makinga move (which i hope they don't). If the pick is a 1st the prospect lowers. If the pick is a 2nd or 3rd than the prospect will be better. No way should LA be moving anyone named Vilardi, Byfield or Clarke. That's their future core.

Please for the love of God send PLD to Montreal.


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Jun. 17, 2023 at 4:14 p.m.
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Very few of those proposals involving NSH trading one of their goalies are coming from NSH fans.

Askarov will get those minutes in the AHL next season. That's what the AHL is for. That's why they call it a development league.

I do trade saros in a lot of my trades when lm looking for Nashville to rebuild but in a lot oh my proposals a lot of fans say no. If I’m trading saros though it will have to be worth it. Most of my saros trades are to buffalo which I want savoie and a 1st or la would work too.
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Jun. 17, 2023 at 4:19 p.m.
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I’d do Askarov and the 24th for the 5th
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Jun. 17, 2023 at 4:25 p.m.
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Quoting: GeauxPreds1
I do trade saros in a lot of my trades when lm looking for Nashville to rebuild but in a lot oh my proposals a lot of fans say no. If I’m trading saros though it will have to be worth it. Most of my saros trades are to buffalo which I want savoie and a 1st or la would work too.


Hey im open to working something out for a Saros
I took the low hanging fruit thinking of the 3 this would be the least controversial
I was wrong evidentally lol

We got the FLA and next years 2024 pick as long as its top 3 protected
but only one i got with Savoie like numbers is Roy or Kidney maybe Davidson .
I mean Kapanen is doing great in Europe but he's 1-2 years away from NHL/AHL ready
What it comes down to is not quite having the Goal Scorer that Savoie is outside Josh Roy who's hit and miss in some circles.
Jun. 17, 2023 at 4:29 p.m.
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I’d do Askarov and the 24th for the 5th


Too rich for my blood
31st , 37th and 3rd in 2024 (or prospect ) is my limits
1st 2nd and 3rd return would be one of the highest for a Goalie since Voukoun

Saros at a first and a good prospect is more my speed
 
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