SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

The Habs should only acquire Dubois if they can shed salary in the same trade

Created by: sensonfire
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 19, 2023
Published: Jun. 19, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Otherwise, just wait until he becomes a UFA next year.


I also wonder if Dubois would play for the Habs at league minimum.


Given that it's the only NHL team Dubois wants to play for.


This is a situation where Kent Hughes could have massive amounts of leverage over Dubois when negotiating over his extension.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,100,000
2$1,100,000
8$775,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Reinbacher, David
3$950,000
Trades
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
WPG
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Hoffman, Mike
  3. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the VGK
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
2024
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the EDM
2025
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$62,036,666$1,170,000$4,195,000$21,463,334
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
$775,000$775,000
C
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
Jun. 19, 2023 at 4:33 p.m.
#1
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2023
Posts: 87
Likes: 28
What is this 🤣
Aebexz and Okalla liked this.
Jun. 19, 2023 at 4:35 p.m.
#2
Go Jets Go
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2018
Posts: 5,440
Likes: 4,186
Salary should be coming to WPG in a PLD trade I agree, but with that being said...why would they sell him for less than he'd get as a pure rental to a contender at the TDL?
Aebexz, sensonfire and jfkst1 liked this.
Jun. 19, 2023 at 4:37 p.m.
#3
Robby35
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2023
Posts: 203
Likes: 82
The Jets decline this deal, maybe if it was Habs first they would consider it
Aebexz liked this.
Jun. 19, 2023 at 4:40 p.m.
#4
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2021
Posts: 539
Likes: 290
Well Dubois got cheap… both the trade and money. The Jets get way more by either forcing him to play one more season and goes for the cup or by trading at the tdl to anyone who wants him
Jun. 19, 2023 at 4:42 p.m.
#5
Habs 7th round 1983
Avatar of the user
Joined: Dec. 2019
Posts: 1,623
Likes: 749
Quoting: Rooney
Salary should be coming to WPG in a PLD trade I agree, but with that being said...why would they sell him for less than he'd get as a pure rental to a contender at the TDL?


Cuz maybe he won't sign a one-year deal with Winnipeg and that you'd be better off trading him than having a star player not reporting to training camp?
Jun. 19, 2023 at 4:42 p.m.
#6
Thread Starter
sensonfire
Avatar of the user
Joined: Feb. 2021
Posts: 11,816
Likes: 4,451
Quoting: Rooney
Salary should be coming to WPG in a PLD trade I agree, but with that being said...why would they sell him for less than he'd get as a pure rental to a contender at the TDL?


That's probably what will happen instead.

You're right.
Rooney liked this.
Jun. 19, 2023 at 4:45 p.m.
#7
Go Jets Go
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2018
Posts: 5,440
Likes: 4,186
Quoting: VladislavTretiak
Cuz maybe he won't sign a one-year deal with Winnipeg and that you'd be better off trading him than having a star player not reporting to training camp?


You think PLD would rather sit out an entire year???? Unlikely. I realize PLD isn't going to get a massive haul like some people think, but WPG won't give him away for pennies on the dollar either. A fair deal will be reached by the draft, I almost guarantee it.
jfkst1, MisstheWhalers and Okalla liked this.
Jun. 19, 2023 at 4:47 p.m.
#8
Habs 7th round 1983
Avatar of the user
Joined: Dec. 2019
Posts: 1,623
Likes: 749
Quoting: Rooney
You think PLD would rather sit out an entire year???? Unlikely. I realize PLD isn't going to get a massive haul like some people think, but WPG won't give him away for pennies on the dollar either. A fair deal will be reached by the draft, I almost guarantee it.


Or a disappointing deal for Winnipeg. Unfortunately Chevy doesn't have much leverage.
Jun. 19, 2023 at 4:51 p.m.
#9
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2019
Posts: 1,674
Likes: 719
hahaha, the Cap Hit on Dubois is the best!!!
Talk about hometown discount!!! smile
sensonfire liked this.
Jun. 19, 2023 at 5:25 p.m.
#10
Luguber
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2022
Posts: 777
Likes: 415
Quoting: VladislavTretiak
Or a disappointing deal for Winnipeg. Unfortunately Chevy doesn't have much leverage.


Disappointing most likely, not to this extreme though 🙂
Jun. 19, 2023 at 5:26 p.m.
#11
MisstheWhalers
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2019
Posts: 23,653
Likes: 12,372
Dubois isn't signing that nor would the NHLPA allow him to sign that.
Jun. 19, 2023 at 6:24 p.m.
#12
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 37
Likes: 9
Absolutely stunned lol.
Jun. 19, 2023 at 6:26 p.m.
#13
Ioriomilkshake
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2017
Posts: 1,445
Likes: 458
A late 1st to dump Armia and Hoffman, fine, but what are Habs adding to land Dubois?
Jun. 19, 2023 at 6:28 p.m.
#14
Thread Starter
sensonfire
Avatar of the user
Joined: Feb. 2021
Posts: 11,816
Likes: 4,451
Quoting: M_Swann
A late 1st to dump Armia and Hoffman, fine, but what are Habs adding to land Dubois?


It depends on what the Jets want.
Jun. 19, 2023 at 6:41 p.m.
#15
Avatar of the user
Joined: Feb. 2022
Posts: 5,096
Likes: 2,372
Quoting: Rooney
You think PLD would rather sit out an entire year???? Unlikely. I realize PLD isn't going to get a massive haul like some people think, but WPG won't give him away for pennies on the dollar either. A fair deal will be reached by the draft, I almost guarantee it.


Whats fair? It aint 3 1sts like many seem to think and nobody can fit that PLD contract without bad money going back. LTIR overages will effect mtl in 2o24 and the Kings dont have the cap space this season either. There really isnt much of a market for a player seeking big money in a hard cap world. It aint going to be close to what Winnipeg paid in the first place with Laine.
Jun. 20, 2023 at 9:30 a.m.
#16
Go Jets Go
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2018
Posts: 5,440
Likes: 4,186
Quoting: VladislavTretiak
Or a disappointing deal for Winnipeg. Unfortunately Chevy doesn't have much leverage.


Agree to disagree on this one. We'll see shortly!
Jun. 20, 2023 at 9:32 a.m.
#17
Go Jets Go
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2018
Posts: 5,440
Likes: 4,186
Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Whats fair? It aint 3 1sts like many seem to think and nobody can fit that PLD contract without bad money going back. LTIR overages will effect mtl in 2o24 and the Kings dont have the cap space this season either. There really isnt much of a market for a player seeking big money in a hard cap world. It aint going to be close to what Winnipeg paid in the first place with Laine.


IF he does go to MTL I have proposed the following trade forever now:

To MTL:

-PLD

To WPG:

-FLA 2023 1st
-MTL 2023 3rd
-Dvorak
-Kidney

Seems like an extremely fair deal for both sides in my opinion.
Reff and Andy_Dick liked this.
Jun. 20, 2023 at 10:52 a.m.
#18
Avatar of the user
Joined: Feb. 2022
Posts: 5,096
Likes: 2,372
Quoting: Rooney
IF he does go to MTL I have proposed the following trade forever now:

To MTL:

-PLD

To WPG:

-FLA 2023 1st
-MTL 2023 3rd
-Dvorak
-Kidney

Seems like an extremely fair deal for both sides in my opinion.


Yes, Dvorak or Armia absolutely need to go as the Habs will be back in LTIR with Price and cap overages in the next few years without moving that contract. Any deal not giving back money to the Jets isnt believable which includes any offer sheet and probably why the Jets didnt elect for team arbitration as teams with interest dont have the cap
Rooney liked this.
Jun. 20, 2023 at 11:29 a.m.
#19
Habs 7th round 1983
Avatar of the user
Joined: Dec. 2019
Posts: 1,623
Likes: 749
Quoting: Rooney
Agree to disagree on this one. We'll see shortly!


Or you might end up with a Kings ransom 😉
Rooney liked this.
Jun. 20, 2023 at 11:35 a.m.
#20
Go Jets Go
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2018
Posts: 5,440
Likes: 4,186
Quoting: VladislavTretiak
Or you might end up with a Kings ransom 😉


I see what you did there wink
VladislavTretiak liked this.
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Submit Poll