Whos the dummy in this deal

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Created by: Pjreifii

Team: 2023-24 Columbus Blue Jackets

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 22, 2023

Published: Jun. 22, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Let's play a game of who's the dummy. Briere or Kekalainen

Disclaimer- Not a fan of either of these teams, listening to 32 Thoughts about Philly moves and a crazy trade like this came to my head.

Is 3rd OA this year, Carlson, Smith, Michkov etc. plus goalie swap/other parts enough for TK, KH, and Hart? Is CBJ even willing to do that deal? May have been too much to give up from CBJ for assets that Briere wants to move anyway, so what would be a fair deal in a package for these 3?

This is an EA Sports NHL23 type deal and not realistic, just a fun exercise.

Think Bean would be a target to move, could maybe get a prospect in return? IDK his value these days after he left CAR and has struggled in Columbus. I know I've seen Boqvist moved around in some deals as well so that's why I chose those two plus guys already on deals with higher AAV than the guys that are sticking around. Obviously rolling with 5 lines here, so plenty of cap flexibility with guys on 2 ways.

I'm bored at work this week, so let's discuss

*Edit- don't pay too much attention to these lines, KJ or Sillinger could easily slot top 6 with their growth so I just went with older more established players in top 6

Trades

CBJ

PHI

Boqvist, Adam
Merzlikins, Elvis
2023 1st round pick (CBJ)
2023 3rd round pick (CBJ)
2024 1st round pick (CBJ)

CBJ

VAN

Bean, Jake
2023 4th round pick (WPG)

Additional Details:

Any team, cheaper younger OEL replacement was the thought with picking Vancouver. Especially if Bear doesn't get an offer, Canucks are going to need NHL D and Bean doesn't seem to have a place in CBJ after a rough season. Not sure if 4th is right value or if Bean is even in "cap dump" territory, just thinking of ways to make space for Philly deal

Buyouts

Alexander Wennberg: $891,667

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$77,320,072	$0	$3,550,000	$6,179,928

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Gaudreau, Johnny $9,750,000$9,750,000 LW NMC UFA - 6	Hayes, Kevin $1,428,572$1,428,572 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Laine, Patrik $8,700,000$8,700,000 C, RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
Jenner, Boone $3,750,000$3,750,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3	Roslovic, Jack $2,000,000$2,000,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Konecny, Travis $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Robinson, Eric $1,600,000$1,600,000 LW UFA - 1	Johnson, Kent $925,000$925,000 ($1,850,000$2M) LW, C RFA - 1	Marchenko, Kirill $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW RFA - 1
Texier, Alexandre $1,525,000$1,525,000 LW, C, RW RFA - 1	Sillinger, Cole $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) C RFA - 1	Olivier, Mathieu $1,100,000$1,100,000 RW UFA - 2
Foudy, Liam $762,500$762,500 LW, C RFA - 1	Kuraly, Sean $2,500,000$2,500,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Bemström, Emil $900,000$900,000 RW, LW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Werenski, Zachary $9,583,333$9,583,333 LD NMC UFA - 5	Severson, Damon $6,250,000$6,250,000 RD NTC UFA - 8	Hart, Carter $3,979,000$3,979,000 G RFA - 1
Provorov, Ivan $4,725,000$4,725,000 LD UFA - 2	Peeke, Andrew $2,750,000$2,750,000 RD UFA - 3	Tarasov, Daniil $1,050,000$1,050,000 G RFA - 2
Blankenburg, Nick $825,000$825,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Gudbranson, Erik $4,000,000$4,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Danforth, Justin $975,000$975,000 RW, C UFA - 1

Jun. 22, 2023 at 4:50 p.m.

Herb_Brooks

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CBJ NOT EVEN CLOSE

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 4:51 p.m.

dopplsan

Nah.

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3OA wouldnt be on the table for a deal like this.

Jarmo and JD have already said they are drafting a center, and would only trade the pick for a young, established 1C - think EP or Matthews.

Frankly, PHI doesnt have the assets for a move like this.

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 4:51 p.m.

Hockey_Soul

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This is a very bad deal for CBJ.

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 4:52 p.m.

sedin33

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Does Jarmo want to burn it down before he's fired? Allvin should call him soon then

Jun. 22, 2023 at 4:52 p.m.

Pjreifii

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Quoting: Hockey_Soul

This is a very bad deal for CBJ.

Read Description? I said it likely was, so what is a good deal?

Jun. 22, 2023 at 4:53 p.m.

Birtle34

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Columbus shouldn’t trade 3oa period. This Columbus team is running such a fine line between dumpster fire and legit contender it’s crazy. Don’t mind the idea, but probably better options out there for a trade, little bit of limited team control coming back from Philly.

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 4:53 p.m.

Pjreifii

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Quoting: sedin33

Does Jarmo want to burn it down before he's fired? Allvin should call him soon then

NHL 23 type deal, not realistic nor would it ever happen. Just curious value.

Jun. 22, 2023 at 4:55 p.m.

Pjreifii

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Quoting: Birtle34

I thought they would take a bigger step forward last year, my parents are STM in Columbus so try to keep up with them. Injuries obviously destroyed their season last. year, but think legit #1 goalie and some more scoring up front with the young talent makes them a solid contender in the metro. Especially if WAS, PIT don't get it together. Devils came in and took one of the spots, could Columbus be next with this kind of roster?

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 4:55 p.m.

sedin33

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Quoting: Pjreifii

NHL 23 type deal, not realistic nor would it ever happen. Just curious value.

I think the value is off. Philly would need to add much including their 23 first

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 5:01 p.m.

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Birtle34

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Quoting: Pjreifii

1c and upgraded goalie and they are in the mix for sure, possibly a few too many moving parts that could be good or Throw the moral into chaos. 4 years and 20 million on there tender is a bit of a obstacle, but there’s teams that are headed for rebuilds and just need a tender, going to cost if they go in a different direction, but doable. 2/3 year 1c type rental would be perfect, especially if 3oa turns into 1c nearing the end of his elc. So lots of good things happening in Columbus.

Jun. 22, 2023 at 5:03 p.m.

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Pjreifii

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Quoting: Birtle34

Sillinger and KJ are studs too, they have potential for 1C or just not responsible enough on the dot and defensively to handle it?

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 5:07 p.m.

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Hockey_Soul

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Quoting: Pjreifii

Elvis isn't bad. He had a rough couple years due to a whole load of factors. CBJ are drafting a center at 3OA so there is no sense in selling the farm now. Just ride it out.

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 5:11 p.m.

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Birtle34

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Quoting: Pjreifii

Sillinger and KJ are studs too, they have potential for 1C or just not responsible enough on the dot and defensively to handle it?

For sure, basically stack them up and hope they all come in strong, I’m a big fan of sillinger and don’t know kj that well, and fantilli or carlsson both going to be legit. Depth is going to be solid going forward. With cap room and the right veteran 1c could be a good influence on the young guys going forward, limited term though so they don’t block the kids.

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