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(TBL/COL) - Colton for 2023 2nd (MTL)

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Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:54 p.m.
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Seeing Tampas continued dismemberment isnt enjoyable, even if theyre not a team I would normally cheer for. The hard salary cap has killed the chance of a dynasty ever occurring again.
While that pick for Colton would be equivalent to a late 1st rounder in most years... its still netting a prospect thats 2 years minimum away from contributing at the NHL level.
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Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:00 p.m.
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A quite high second seems pretty rich for Colton. But we shall see.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:19 p.m.
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Define "very deep". And then compare that to "deep", which is what I said.


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I know, People think the first 2wo round will be all top six fwds and top pairing dmen and staring goalies. Get a grip folks, beyond the top 22, it's a crap shoot.


And, no one even knows for sure.. so to speak so confidently about something that experts whom make it their job YET say isnt an exact science, that is hilarious. Newhook is a know entity. Its a smart gamble. There is no secret prize.

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Get over it. This is the point of the site.


Ppl really need to get outside. I always wonder if i'd even post here if it wasnt for the pandemic and becoming a somewhat 'regular'
Things happen and it doesnt always mean some are wrong, sometimes, it's just happenstance.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 6:18 p.m.
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Wheres Kevin Bahl?
Jun. 28, 2023 at 7:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
And, no one even knows for sure..


You sure as hell are acting like you know for sure.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 8:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Went_Wughes
I know, People think the first 2wo round will be all top six fwds and top pairing dmen and staring goalies. Get a grip folks, beyond the top 22, it's a crap shoot.


I never said that. HOWEVER, in most years, past the top five it becomes a crap shoot.

I previously used the year 2000 as an example. In that year, two of the top five never become truly impact players. Four of the top ten never played more than one full season in the NHL.

"Beyond the top 22 it's a crapshoot!"

That's 10 to 15 slots better than a lot of years.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 8:08 p.m.
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Quoting: CSStrowbridge
I never said that. HOWEVER, in most years, past the top five it becomes a crap shoot.

I previously used the year 2000 as an example. In that year, two of the top five never become truly impact players. Four of the top ten never played more than one full season in the NHL.

"Beyond the top 22 it's a crapshoot!"

That's 10 to 15 slots better than a lot of years.


Yes but we're talking about 31st and 37th.

Pay attention instead of needing to be right,
Jun. 28, 2023 at 8:11 p.m.
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Between this trade and the earlier Newhook to Montreal trade, Colorado upgrades at center and nets a low first round pick and a young defenseman.

Winner winner, chicken dinner!
Jun. 28, 2023 at 8:18 p.m.
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Edited Jun. 28, 2023 at 9:30 p.m.
Quoting: Went_Wughes
Yes but we're talking about 31st and 37th.

Pay attention instead of needing to be right,


Jesus Christ, the projection with your two. You think this years draft is 10 to 15 spots better up to the 22nd pick ... and then reverts to normal after that? Do you know how rare it is for a player in the slots 10 through 15 to be projected to be a 1st line / top-pair player? I think you two are just overestimating the value of past draft picks and therefore assume the buzz here is normal.

Do the research. Prove me wrong.

Never mind. I did it for you...

https://theathletic.com/4538998/2023/05/30/nhl-draft-rankings-2023-bedard-pronman/

These projections have players up to 38th place being middle-six players. That's incredibly rare. They have up to 77th place playing at least some NHL games. Historically, players drafted in the second round only have a one in three chance of playing more than 100 games in the NHL. They have players up to the early third doing that and another 70 that should at least play some NHL games.
Jun. 29, 2023 at 6:28 a.m.
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Some nice moves by COL, they trade Newhook for a 1st and Colton, thats a pretty good return.

Slight overpay by MTL and kind of a weak return for TB trying to maintain contender status (lacking picks and depth)
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