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Created by: mvp13

Team: 2023-24 San Jose Sharks

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 18, 2023

Published: Jul. 18, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Unhappy with the EK69 offers, Grier decides to go the other way.

If they lose Karlsson, I don't see how they compete for the next 4 years under Couture's contract. Instead, they make some moves to try to compete sooner.

Vlasic may be the most over-hated d-man in the League. Overpaid, sure, but not completely useless. He gets a fresh start on a team that barely has any relevant NHL LD and the cap to take him full on. If he still doesn't work out, his buyout price is not that bad in June 2024 (3.8, 4.8, 1.3, 1.3).

In return for this little risk, they get Eklund and a 1st round pick. That's a lot for SJS to give up, but I think it's worth it to shed Vlasic with no retention. They also get a bottom 6 center to help fill that hole.

In free agency, they overpay for a top 6 winger and top 4 d-man. I might've went a little heavy on the terms; adjust accordingly. They overpay to convince them to play on a rebuilder. With the cap spiking up, this should even out nicely in two years.

I don't think this team is an immediate contender, but they are closer to their goal rather than being further away.

Free Agent Signings

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Tarasenko, Vladimir		5	$6,000,000
Dumba, Matt		8	$6,000,000

Trades

Retained Salary Transactions

Brent Burns: $2,720,000 (34%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$80,370,001	$25,000	$0	$3,129,999

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Barabanov, Alexander $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Couture, Logan $8,000,000$8,000,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4	Tarasenko, Vladimir $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW UFA - 1
Duclair, Anthony $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Hertl, Tomas $6,750,000$6,750,000 C NMC UFA - 7	Labanc, Kevin $4,725,000$4,725,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Zadina, Filip $1,100,000$1,100,000 RW, LW RFA - 1	Dickinson, Jason $2,650,000$2,650,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Zetterlund, Fabian $1,450,000$1,450,000 RW RFA - 2
Lindblom, Oskar $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW UFA - 1	Sturm, Nico $2,000,000$2,000,000 C UFA - 2	Kunin, Luke $2,750,000$2,750,000 RW, C RFA - 1
Peterson, Jacob $775,000$775,000 LW, C RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Ferraro, Mario $3,250,000$3,250,000 LD UFA - 3	Karlsson, Erik $10,000,000$10,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 4	Kähkönen, Kaapo $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 1
Simek, Radim $2,250,000$2,250,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Dumba, Matt $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD UFA - 1	Blackwood, Mackenzie $2,350,000$2,350,000 G UFA - 2
Burroughs, Kyle $1,100,000$1,100,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Benning, Matthew $1,250,000$1,250,000 RD UFA - 3
Knyzhov, Nikolai $1,250,000$1,250,000 LD/RD UFA - 2

Jul. 18, 2023 at 1:08 p.m.

Logicalicesports

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You are crazy to get rid of Eklund

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Jul. 18, 2023 at 1:10 p.m.

brady_t12

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A top 10 pick in this coming draft and a recent top 10 pick who is now NHL ready to get rid of Vlasic? Chicago takes that and runs.

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Jul. 18, 2023 at 1:14 p.m.

matthias893

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That trade is horrible for San Jose.

Getting rid of Vlasic's contract is not even kind of a priority and Eklund and that (probably top 5) 1st round pick are a MAJOR part of our future. Our goal is to get back to being a perennial contender. This deal absolutely moves us much farther away from it.

Jul. 18, 2023 at 1:14 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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San Jose could just buy out Vlasic and keep Eklund and the 1st.

Also Dumba cannot sign 8-years (would anyone want to sign him for 8 years?).

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Jul. 18, 2023 at 1:15 p.m.

mvp13

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Quoting: Logicalicesports

You are crazy to get rid of Eklund

I know. But that's what it would take.

Quoting: brady_t12

A top 10 pick in this coming draft and a recent top 10 pick who is now NHL ready to get rid of Vlasic? Chicago takes that and runs.

It could be top 10 protected, but I hear this draft is kind of light. Maybe next year would be better and not worth losing it instead?

Jul. 18, 2023 at 1:17 p.m.

mvp13

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

San Jose could just buy out Vlasic and keep Eklund and the 1st.

Also Dumba cannot sign 8-years (would anyone want to sign him for 8 years?).

SJS doesn't have a 2nd buyout window, so they can't. Even if they did, they couldn't sign the UFAs.

... which Dumba is, so why couldn't he sign 8 years? Either way that could be shaved down, minor details

Jul. 18, 2023 at 1:18 p.m.

mvp13

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Quoting: matthias893

How else do you improve this year with keeping Vlasic haha...

It would be a priority if they wanted to keep EK69 and get better, which is the point of this...

Jul. 18, 2023 at 1:31 p.m.

jfkst1

"Go sell ice cream!"

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San Jose needs a good 5 years of rebuilding before they ever contend. Rushing that will just perpetuate issues.

Jul. 18, 2023 at 1:31 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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Quoting: mvp13

They aren’t competing next year, so won’t need the cap space until 2024 or 2025 and can buy out Vlasic then.

Max term is…8 years if a player is resigning with the same club he was on at previous deadline. 7 years for everyone else.

Jul. 18, 2023 at 1:33 p.m.

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goodfella

Grierless Sharks Fan

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What a troll post.

Sharks don't need to move Vlasic or EK.

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Jul. 18, 2023 at 1:36 p.m.

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sharcuda22

Joined: Apr. 2022

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Quoting: mvp13

How else do you improve this year with keeping Vlasic haha...

It would be a priority if they wanted to keep EK69 and get better, which is the point of this...

Vlassics contract is bad yah... but he was our second best d man for most of last season. If you really want to improve this team, instead of getting rid of our 2nd best prospect, maybe just trade for a real goalie and we will finish outside the top ten

Jul. 18, 2023 at 1:36 p.m.

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matthias893

Joined: Apr. 2023

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Quoting: mvp13

How else do you improve this year with keeping Vlasic haha...

It would be a priority if they wanted to keep EK69 and get better, which is the point of this...

We were pretty bad last year with Karlsson and Timo for a majority of the year. Then Timo got traded and we fell straight off a cliff. The team you have here might be good enough to climb a slot or two higher in the standings. Just enough to still not make the playoffs and give us a worse draft pick ( that we stupidly traded away), all the while trading away our future and handicapping ourselves with two more terrible way too long contracts.

This whole concept just delays us getting back to contention and ensures we'll be supremely mediocre for a long long time. We're going to suck next year no matter what. We might as well wait it out and buyout Vlasic next year or the year after if we need to.

Jul. 18, 2023 at 1:37 p.m.

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mvp13

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Quoting: jfkst1

San Jose needs a good 5 years of rebuilding before they ever contend. Rushing that will just perpetuate issues.

You are probably right, this team is simply an attempt at trying to be "better" this year while shedding one of their albatross contracts.

Jul. 18, 2023 at 2:07 p.m.

#14

wojohawk

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Hawks would say yes. 2 premium assets for 3 years of Vlassic where the Hawks have no realistic financial concerns until those 3 years are up and Bedard gets paid would be an immediate yes. Problem is San Jose would never say yes. Sharks have no pressing need for the cap as they are in about the same spot as the Hawks in rebuilding with no one to spend the money on anyways until some of the prospects start arriving.

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Jul. 18, 2023 at 2:22 p.m.

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poeticentropy

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Vlasic retires a Shark. They have no reason to move him as they are going to suck for the years remaining anyway

Jul. 18, 2023 at 3:16 p.m.

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mvp13

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Quoting: poeticentropy

Vlasic retires a Shark. They have no reason to move him as they are going to suck for the years remaining anyway

I don't think the team above sucks. It's a step in the right direction. More cap clears next year, cap goes up, more UFA signings and get closer, rather than stagnating for 3 years.

Their current plan is to sell EK69 which will take a long time, and not really make sense with their long term Hertl signing, Couture, etc. This is trying to carve a new path while you have those two franchise centers under contract, rather than waiting til after.

Hey, it's better than all the TOR ACGM teams with Karlsson at 50% retention for Robertson and cap dumps, right? : P

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Jul. 18, 2023 at 3:46 p.m.

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poeticentropy

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Quoting: mvp13

I would say just get UFAs that you can without trading your 1st or best prospect away, which they really need for the future. This team you have here still misses the playoffs IMO, so there's no point. Selling the farm makes sense for teams that are actually close to competing. For example most believe Pit being out of the playoffs was a fluke and they can bounce back in next season with the right moves.

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