Wow, why not just throw in Thomas and Buch while you’re at it. Probably would only need to add a 4th with haul the Blues are already getting

Haha goodbye

Blues decline. Not trading Kyrou for prospects unless it was overwhelming and this isn't close to that

Guhle would already be St louis 1st d. Since pietrangelo departure StLouis have been a total reck defensively. And with that aging core adding a talent like Guhle is for sure worthy of trying something. Kyrou is great but he is just a winger. Guhle will play 22-24 minutes against top line. But i guess you arr better to stay put will all those 30 years old who can’t defend a beach volleyball.

Guhle is not a prospect he is a stud on defense. He already shown that he belomg in the Nhl and thag he can play against top opposition. Ryan Johanssen against seth Jones. And he was a centerman.

Guhle wouldn’t be a bad add. But he’s still too unproven to trade Kyrou for.

Guhle had pretty rough usage with Montreal and wasn’t really great in it, but it’s conceivable to see him blossom into a solid top 4 LD.

Tbf to him, his CF% was like 45 when paired with Wideman or Savard, but 53-55 when paired with Harris or Kovy. The guy is already a beast but played with bumps (especially Wides) half the time and that doesn’t help.

As of now, 100% understandable that St.Louis doesn’t do the trade, but on the rate Guhle’s development is going, he could be Weber 2.0, and if thats the case, MTL doesn’t do that trade for sure

Step away from the pipe and stop pretending to understand what you're on about. This trade idea is pure undiluted folly. Obviously.





Bruh. Guhle is probably at best a #4, IF he fulfills his potential. Kyrou is an established top line talent signed to a friendly eight-year deal. They take that and run away peeing themselves with laughter.

Nah you trippin homie, he already a #4, Weber potential is pretty much the widespread prediction

I think you should read the following article before making such statements. Ghule with Eddy and Savard as partners was trying to do everything and make up fore their lack of speed. Guhle with the likes of Harris, Xhekaj, Barron and Kovacevic was great and boarded on elite numbers. Ghule with Kovacevic had a CF% of 61.1, HDCF% of 66.7 and xGF of 66.3, not many D combinations in the league have those kinds of numbers and when you factor in the fact that Kovacevic isn't more than a 3rd pairing guy on any team that just shows how good Ghule actually is, he carries his partners and makes players around him better. A 21 yo cornerstone D man with those numbers are a rare find, those are the guys you keep at all costs.

https://montrealhockeynow.com/2023/07/22/montreal-canadiens-players-likely-to-flourish-next-season-kaiden-guhle-analysis-health-projection/

(sigh)

By what conceivable metric is a kid with 44 games, almost all of which he played bottom pairing with not so great results an established bona fide #4? And in what world would a #4 tempt anyone to trade Kyrou?

People are just nuts. I must be an alien.

Are you doing satire right now?

Harris - 33 5v5 minutes, 50% goal share (1-1)
Kova - 30 5v5 minutes, -3
Xhekaj - 15 5v5 minutes, 50% goal share (also 1-1)
Barron - 4 5v5 minutes, no goals scored by either team

Reel it way in, buddy. Good grief almighty. He literally played four whole games worth of time off the bottom pairing. And was a combined -3. Let's not shine up his Norris just yet, eh?

WTH are you talking about?! Ghule played almost his whole season in the top 4 with either Eddy or Savard as his partner. The others were promoted to top 4 roles due to injuries, hence the little ice time they got with Ghule. If you don't understand what's going on then maybe you shouldn't respond cause it just makes you look foolish, especially when you throw out sarcastic comments like your last line.

Nah nah nah homie… You gotta be of those stats hogger that only looks at 4 metrics and thats it, Guhle had 55-60 CF% when not paired with Eddy l, Savard or Wides. That is ridiculous good, he just played with bums. Also a 21 year old D with a 35 pt pace is insane. Don’t go bashing a player that you have seen play 3 times in your life, people will not take you seriously of you do

Goodbye

Hahahaha yes!! When not paired with the guys he played 90% of his 5v5 time with, he was amaaaaaazing! Well... analytically.

Dude, you are sitting here trying to massage reality to the point where trading you Kyrou for Guhle seems reasonable. There is no such point in existence, sir. OBVIOUSLY. Sorry, but pretending the problem is I do not watch the player (something you made up and have no way of knowing) is desperate reaching. I only used those stats because the person I was responding to made a point about those same exact stats. Duh doy.

You do you, but im not trading a future Weber for Kyrou, who wouldn’t even be on the top line in 4 years

I’ll take our chances with a PPG forward thank you though.

I disagree Guhle as the upside of a 2-3D maybe not a 1 but definitely a 2-3. I still wouldn’t trade Kyrou for him.

I also disagree with this. If you believe Guhle is a #1 D you do you. But I’m not trading a PPG player for a small sample size defenseman. I think he has the upside of a 2-3 but again no one is trading an already PPG a player for a “1D” that Montreal fans have always up play prospects potential.

Please give me examples of players who are PPG a players getting traded for a defenseman who has very little time as a “Top Pairing” that you believe him to be.

Fair enough if you’re not trading Kyrou, I understand. However, lets go back to 2009. Would you have trade Pietrangelo for Hemsky? No you wouldn’t. Same goes for Guhle and Kyrou in MTL’s pov

I'm not giving my assessment that his ceiling is a #4, I'm going by what the consensus among prospect pundits typically say. If this guy can find me one writer/outlet that thinks Guhle is a top pairing D or (chokes back laughter) the next Pietrangelo, I'll be astonished. I mean, holy wow. That just shows a clear misunderstanding of Petro. NOBODY is EVER going to confuse Petro's puck game with Guhle.

Maybe Guhle could be a #2. He's not a pairing driver. Probably #4 sounds like a very fair word on him to me. It's the Matt Knies thing all over again. Meanwhile, he somehow imagines that Kyrou is like Hemsky. The delusions are rampant.

Completely different situation. We didn’t need offense. You do…

Not really considering we have 4 75+ pt potential guy on our team. (Dach Suzuki Slaf Caufield). They probably won’t all be 75 pt guys, but some prob will be better. (Dach 60-65) (Suzuki 80-85) (Caufield 70-80) (Slaf 70-90, harder to predict). Plus 40-55 pt potential guys like Beck, Newhook, Roy, Farrell, Mesar. We also got out 2024 1st in which we will likely draft a very solid forward. MTL are very underrated in the attack. Sure Kyrou could help, but not by removing a core 3 defender (Guhle, Hutson, Reinbacher)