We shouldn't pay anything for Meyers, let alone a conditional 1st. If Vancouver wants to dump him then great, but cap space isn't free.

Jackets pass, nothing of interest there. We dont have space on the roster or in the cap for those players.

A 2nd (potential 1st) for Myers. Come on now. Wake up.

First trade is awful for Vancouver, second trade is awful for San Jose

It's a hell of a deal for the Jackets. 2 middle 6 wingers and a flyer on a d prospect. For Andrew Peeke who isn't good or needed and is paid almost 3 mil and a 3rd. Youd be taking on 250k in salary to upgrade your fwd position quite a bit.

You're talking about a team that has locked in it's top 4 wingers so they would be two bottom 6 winger options. They'd be adding them to their already existing options of Roslovic, Chinakhov, Texier, Voronkov, Robinson, Danforth, Olivier, Foudy, and Bemstrom. Not to mention they've also got Dumais, Del Bel Belluz, Malatesta, and Brindley as upcoming options over the life of Garland's contract too. The Jackets do not need any more bottom 6 options. They've also got Werenski, Provorov, Bean, Mateychuk, Svozil, and 8 more LD prospects already in the system so Rathbone is redundant.

Peeke is redundant as well. And literally haven't heard of a single one of the prospects. Not saying they aren't gonna make it but none of them are top prospects. Also not terribly keen on any of the NHL names you mentioned. Garland is easily and upgrade on any of them and at 3 mil is a steal. Hoglander we will see but I think he has decent upside.

Who are your top 4 Gaudreau, Laine, Kent and Marchenko?

Also it's just asset management. Easy trade win and flip for other needs.

Peeke is insurance for a defensive group that has been fragile as hell over the last couple years. Trading him away means they're a Boqvist injury away from having to rely on Nick Blankenburg who is also made of glass. He is absolutely not redundant.

Dumais was just Q league mvp and is top 5 on most lists for the Jackets pool which is ranked top 3 in the league pretty much unanimously. Malatesta was Q playoff and Memorial cup MVP and a very solid projection for a 4th line energy guy. Brindley dropped out of the first round to the Jackets at 34 and I'd put him at #5 in the pool. Del Bel was their 2nd rounder from last year and again a top 10 guy in one of the best pools in hockey. Just because you don't know who they are doesn't mean they aren't very good prospects. We're also talking about guys that could project into bottom 6 roles over the next few years, not top prospects.

Some of those guys are 4th liners so yes, Garland absolutely would be an upgrade there. However, nobody wants to pay $3M for a 4th liner. As for guys like Roslovic, Chinakhov, Texier and Voronkov, I would not at all say Galand is a certain upgrade on any of them considering he won't have JT Miller or Pettersson to hold his hand in Columbus. Three of those guys have already scored at the 30-40+ point pace you'd expect from a 3rd line winger and Voronkov has a KHL escape clause for early December in his contract so he's almost certainly going to be on the main roster by then.

Yes, those are the top 4 wingers. There's no point in trying to debate Garland getting a top 6 spot over any of them.

How is that good asset management? If the Canucks can't move any of these guys for a player of need, why would the Jackets be able to? Also, why not just trade Peeke for the player of need if they feel it would be necessary?

You could make the case that Garland is better than Marchenko without question. But I don't even think it's necessary for me to do that. Garland would just be a really good play driving 3rd line energy guy for 3 mil. Who can play up in case of injury or slump of those young guys. That is a hell of a deal. And no Pettersson and Miller don't hold his hand. Hell he was better when he wasn't even on the Canucks. And he plays 3rd line for us also. Also funny how everyone kinda craps on Miller league wide but all of sudden he's holding Garland's hand. Garland is not the type of player who needs you to hold his hand.

All those prospects are fine and dandy. Theyre not going to be as good as Garland in the short term.

Your Right D is pretty stacked.

Severerson
Bean
Boqvist
Blankenberg
Jiricek
Ceulemans (prob needs another yr)
Gudbranson

There are 7 guys for max 4 slots. Adding Peeke to that doesn't help much.

As for those fwd prospects thats great, fun guys to cheer for. None probably has the upside of Hoglander who lead the wjc in scoring and was in the NHL at 19. He alone is worth a 2nd you'd have to say. Garland at 3 mil has got to be a high 2nd as well. Rathbone maybe not worth much in terms of picks but maybe swap him for a different prospect if your left side is set.

Peeke is worth maybe a 3rd. Even if you wanted to go crazy and say he's worth a 2nd. Thats a 2nd and 3rd for 2 2nds and Rathbone. Realistically its more like two 3rds for two 2nds and Rathbone.

Ya those wing options are not great. Adding a bonafide middle 6 winger and a guy with 2nd line upside for a guy who is completely redundant in Peeke is a good bit of asset management. Garland at 3 mil on your 3rd line as a play driver, defensively responsible, energy guy is a great option. If their salaries are the same (which they are in this proposal) clearly Garland is a superior player to Peeke. Hoglander is easily worth a 3rd and really a 2nd. And Rathbone is just icing on the cake.

You've broken my troll meter. Have a good evening.

The only GM who would give a 2nd for Myers is Allvin. none of the other 31 are that stupid

Sometimes you think you are so right in your point and then you get slapped with real facts. Happens all the time. I usually do the slapping but I do get it once in a while too so I know how you feel right now. Better to just kill the convo.