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Team: 2023-24 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 20, 2023
Published: Aug. 20, 2023
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CAR
  1. Couture, Logan
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Turns up in the playoffs a crazy amount but retention would be needed due to him being 34 with 4 years still left
SJS
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  1. Hertl, Tomas
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My favourite option personally. Has experience, great leader, wouldn't cost a haul. Contract length is an issue but may be worth it.
SJS
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CAR
  1. Thomas, Robert
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Blues fans crucified me for this (maybe even rightfully so) but I'm sticking with it out of pride. Thomas is a perfect player to have but would cost the most and is most likely unmovable.
STL
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  1. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
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I don't think he's the answer at all but Canes could have interest. Top 6 player who provides production and could be swapped for a player like Pesce 1 for 1.
EDM
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  1. Scheifele, Mark
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Good production, veteran experience, shouldn't be resigned though. They would probably want to let him go so it would be rental
WPG
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CAR
    Essentially none of these off-season moves will matter until the Canes grab an offensive game changer. The reason why they have't been able to get over the hump was offensive production, they have failed to get a goal in important moments and need to grab a player who can do that.
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    Aug. 20, 2023 at 8:12 p.m.
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    I'm not going to crucify you, but I will gently, lovingly inform you that the you are NOT getting Thomas. Need to let that one go, champ.
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    Aug. 20, 2023 at 8:16 p.m.
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    Pesce doesn’t get you nuge one for one it would have to be a lot more
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    Aug. 20, 2023 at 8:16 p.m.
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    I'm not going to crucify you, but I will gently, lovingly inform you that the you are NOT getting Thomas. Need to let that one go, champ.


    I mean you guys are about to go through a rebuild really soon... why not get a very good return for a very good player
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    Aug. 20, 2023 at 8:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: JKCpp
    Pesce doesn’t get you nuge one for one it would have to be a lot more


    Guy get's his numbers hyper-inflated by playing with McDavid/Drasitl and the system he plays in... the Pesce for RNH wouldn't be that far off
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    Aug. 20, 2023 at 8:18 p.m.
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    Thomas isn’t happening

    Couture’s contract isn’t worth it

    Scheifele isn’t worth the price for us

    Edmonton is trying to win so why would they sell Nuge?

    That basically leaves Hertl and he will be hard to fit in add in Hertl may not even waive
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    Aug. 20, 2023 at 8:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    I'm not going to crucify you, but I will gently, lovingly inform you that the you are NOT getting Thomas. Need to let that one go, champ.


    Lmao I think I just fell in love with the fit, Thomas would go crazy in RBD's system and would be perfect for the Canes. Sometimes that just happens and you ignore all the other factors within the trade (Contracts, Salary Cap, Situations of the teams etc)


    (Also I wouldn't blame you or any Blues fan going off on that idea either lmao, As an oilers fan my least favoruite thing is seeing Drai trades to the Jackets and Wings)
    Aug. 20, 2023 at 8:20 p.m.
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    Quoting: JKCpp
    Pesce doesn’t get you nuge one for one it would have to be a lot more


    As an oilers fan... nah it wouldn't be much more. Pesce and a 2nd gets it done, Nuge had one of the most inflated seasons last year while Pesce is one of the more overlooked players in the league. I love move for both sides, Pesce would do much more for Edmonton in important moments than Nuge and vice versa for the Canes.
    Aug. 20, 2023 at 8:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: ecupirate07
    Thomas isn’t happening

    Couture’s contract isn’t worth it

    Scheifele isn’t worth the price for us

    Edmonton is trying to win so why would they sell Nuge?

    That basically leaves Hertl and he will be hard to fit in add in Hertl may not even waive


    Since the start of this idea in my mind Hertl has always been my No.1 option. Doesn't have to be this season but the canes come into nearly 40 million of cap space next year which is a perfect opportunity for a move like this.
    Aug. 20, 2023 at 8:28 p.m.
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    Scheifele would be a good pick up at the TDL

    Hertl would make sense long terms
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    Aug. 20, 2023 at 8:36 p.m.
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    Quoting: CBA
    Scheifele would be a good pick up at the TDL

    Hertl would make sense long terms


    I don't think that Scheifele would fit in well in Carolina... doesn't really play defense and RBA is very insistent on that
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    Aug. 20, 2023 at 8:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    I mean you guys are about to go through a rebuild really soon... why not get a very good return for a very good player


    Why would the blues trade a 24 year old center that is signed to an 8 year contract. Dude still has 6 years before he even hits 30. Makes no sense at all
    Aug. 20, 2023 at 9:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: Drshnuckels91
    Lmao I think I just fell in love with the fit, Thomas would go crazy in RBD's system and would be perfect for the Canes. Sometimes that just happens and you ignore all the other factors within the trade (Contracts, Salary Cap, Situations of the teams etc)


    (Also I wouldn't blame you or any Blues fan going off on that idea either lmao, As an oilers fan my least favoruite thing is seeing Drai trades to the Jackets and Wings)


    Thomas is the future captain. He's the type of guy the Blues may just keep until he retires.
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    Aug. 20, 2023 at 9:37 p.m.
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    I mean you guys are about to go through a rebuild really soon... why not get a very good return for a very good player


    What are you on about? This is all delusion. There is no tear down tank rebuild coming in STL. The Blues don't do that, nor do they need to. And Thomas is 24, locked up, and has been pegged as future captain since he arrived. You don't trade that.
    Aug. 20, 2023 at 10:25 p.m.
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    What are you on about? This is all delusion. There is no tear down tank rebuild coming in STL. The Blues don't do that, nor do they need to. And Thomas is 24, locked up, and has been pegged as future captain since he arrived. You don't trade that.


    You guys don't have enough firepower to make a deep run, and a good amount of your better players are on the wrong side of 30 (Especially defensively), no really good options in net... that screams retool if not full-blown rebuild
    Aug. 20, 2023 at 10:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    You guys don't have enough firepower to make a deep run, and a good amount of your better players are on the wrong side of 30 (Especially defensively), no really good options in net... that screams retool if not full-blown rebuild


    OK well we will retool with the 24 year old center. Again there is no reason to trade Thomas at all. He has 6 years before he turns 30 and that's plenty of time to go through a rebuild/retool. If we are retooling we are selling off our older players not the 24 year olds. Your logic doesn't make any sense
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    Aug. 21, 2023 at 12:12 a.m.
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    Quoting: Drshnuckels91
    Since the start of this idea in my mind Hertl has always been my No.1 option. Doesn't have to be this season but the canes come into nearly 40 million of cap space next year which is a perfect opportunity for a move like this.


    Quoting: Drshnuckels91
    Since the start of this idea in my mind Hertl has always been my No.1 option. Doesn't have to be this season but the canes come into nearly 40 million of cap space next year which is a perfect opportunity for a move like this.


    Except the Sharks don’t want to move him.
    Aug. 21, 2023 at 12:21 a.m.
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    Can I interest you in a slightly used Kadri?
    Aug. 21, 2023 at 1:12 a.m.
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    Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
    Except the Sharks don’t want to move him.


    I mean hey obviously they can do whatever they want but they definitely should move him. He turns 30 this season, is only gonna lose value and won't be apart of the next competitive Sharks era. I'm not saying they should have him on the block but why should he be untouchable?
    Aug. 21, 2023 at 1:13 a.m.
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    Quoting: Bast
    Can I interest you in a slightly used Kadri?


    Honestly I don't think the Flames should move Kadri unless they commit to a massive rebuild. He is the perfect leader to have for guys like Pelletier and Coronato
    Aug. 21, 2023 at 1:35 a.m.
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    Quoting: Drshnuckels91
    Honestly I don't think the Flames should move Kadri unless they commit to a massive rebuild. He is the perfect leader to have for guys like Pelletier and Coronato


    That's what I thought when we got him. However, he quit on the team after the all-star break. His GAF meter was at an all time low(if you don't believe me watch the deciding goal in the last game against CHI). I hope that it was all because of Sutter, but that's not the sort of leadership I like.
    Aug. 21, 2023 at 2:57 a.m.
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    Quoting: Drshnuckels91
    As an oilers fan... nah it wouldn't be much more. Pesce and a 2nd gets it done, Nuge had one of the most inflated seasons last year while Pesce is one of the more overlooked players in the league. I love move for both sides, Pesce would do much more for Edmonton in important moments than Nuge and vice versa for the Canes.

    You know Peter chiarelli isn’t the gm anymore and yes this is 100% far off you realize nuge is locked in at 5.125 and pesce is a rental there’s no way pesce and 2nd would get this done that’s just talking crazy
    Aug. 21, 2023 at 3:06 a.m.
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    Quoting: Drshnuckels91
    I mean hey obviously they can do whatever they want but they definitely should move him. He turns 30 this season, is only gonna lose value and won't be apart of the next competitive Sharks era. I'm not saying they should have him on the block but why should he be untouchable?


    Because sharks aren’t that far from being competitive and Hertl game should be sustainable. Sharks 23/24 will be a bad season and likely top 3 pick, but starting in 24 offseason with another top 3 pick and likely 4 picks in the top 40 should give them a top 5 prospect pool. combine that with 35-40 mil cap space likely means starting in 24/25 sharks start improving.
    Yes Couture and Hertl could be moved but with a very young core of Eklund Smith and Celebrini/ Levshunov(depending on where we draft in 24) it would be nice to have that vet leadership to mentor them!
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    Aug. 21, 2023 at 4:23 a.m.
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    You guys don't have enough firepower to make a deep run, and a good amount of your better players are on the wrong side of 30 (Especially defensively), no really good options in net... that screams retool if not full-blown rebuild



    Again, you have no idea what you're on about. Not trying to flame, just straight talk.
    Aug. 21, 2023 at 9:44 a.m.
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    Again, you have no idea what you're on about. Not trying to flame, just straight talk.


    I'm talking long term not short... you guys will be mediocre for the next few years if you continue on your current course and I'm not really sold on your prospects outside of Snuggerud and maybe Bolduc
    Aug. 21, 2023 at 10:27 a.m.
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    I'm talking long term not short... you guys will be mediocre for the next few years if you continue on your current course and I'm not really sold on your prospects outside of Snuggerud and maybe Bolduc


    Hahahaha what???? Dude... I don't know where you get all these wild ideas, but they're unanimously off. Have a good one.
     
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