Would you feel the same way if Dach puts up 60 pts as a center and Suzuki 80 pts this season?

Quality over quantity

Yup, I would

4 1sts, a 2nd and a backup with no cap dumps coming back to the Canucks is a lot of "quality" peices

Guys that went in the 1st round but haven't done anything aren't worth 1sts

It's interesting, because having a 100+pts and 80+pts center last season did not help Vancouver win. They were unbalanced between forward and defense.

They will be a little better with Hronek this season, but can he be a top pair player? I think the Canucks need to be a bit of a cautionary tale for the Habs.

Vancouver has better goaltending. Better centers. Better scoring wingers. They play in an easier division.

With all that going for them, they still can't make the post -season.

Fans on this site constantly undervalue defense and depth. I think Hughes has a plan and players with the right culture is a big part of it. So I only do this deal if HuGo believes Petey will fit in with the group and not project a mercenary attitude.

This is a huge risk this trade... and vancouver would only do this if they were re-building or couldnt sign Petterson.. and he is not ufa so van holds the cards. Montreal would insist that those picks are top 10 protected else I would not do this trade.... only good thing about the trade is we speed up the rebuild a little but you can't keep rebuilding with no first round picks. So montreal would have to be ready to contend and they might with Petterson in place and suzuki as the 2C. Plus they have a great set of defenseman and then they just need a good goalie

It’s insulting that you think you can get Pettersson without giving up any of your top assets….

lack of leadership and a losing culture in the room..... goalie got hurt didnt he?

I'm just saying. They had multiple 40 goal scorers 2 top line centers, a great goalie until he got injured. Culture is so important in a team.

IMO that's the number 1 reason the Habs did not draft Michkov.

Canucks decline. Offer has quantity but not enough quality. Lacks the high-end pieces Vancouver would look for in a Pettersson deal should they move him.

2 unprotected 1sts a top 6 forward under 25 with 60-80 point potential and 2 good young top 4 D men?! That is some serious quality my friend

Start with Dach, Reinbacher, and an unprotected 2024 1st

No it’s not. You didn’t even include any of Reinbacher, Slaf, Hutson. Not even Suzuki or Caufield either. Don’t expect to get a top 8 center without giving up your top pieces

You got Dach and the 2024 and 2025 1sts plus Barron and Harris, are you seriously turning down that offer just cause you didn't get Reinbacher and got Barron, Harris and an additional unprotected 1st?! Are you saying Reinbacher is worth more than Barron, Harris and a 1st?!

VAN decline. Also, don't see why Pettersson would have any interest playing for a team worse than VAN.

Dach is our 3rd best player under 25, Barron and Harris are also in the top 10 of our best players under 25, 2 unprotected (probably early) 1sts and most importantly no cap dumps going back the other way. I would like to see what other team in the NHL that can and would offer anything remotely close to that without sending cap back!!!

Canucks would want quality over quantity

Sending cap back isn’t a deal breaker. Sending no top assets IS a deal breaker

The 24 pick will be in the top 5 again this year. 2025 pick could alos be a top 5 top 10. Those a pretty high end pieces. If MTL win lottey draft this year and talk with Vancouver for a trade, Celebrini would be huge. But i would say the Pettersson had a 1/10 maybe less to leaves Vancouver.

Pettersson alone would not allow this team to be bottom 5. Probably not even bottom 10. Canucks had AHL level defense and goaltending and weren’t even bottom 10. Canucks need a lot more for sure pieces than a “could be top 5 pick”. Not including Reinbacher, Slaf, or Hutson is insulting

Canucks would want either Suzuki or Reinbacher as part of the package coming back. Taking a chance on some potential top 10 picks is far too much risk. If Pettersson helps improve the Canadiens and they get out of their rebuild earlier than expected, the Canucks get absolutely screwed over by the picks dropping out of the top 10/lottery. Just far too much risk to be taking undetermined picks as the big part of the return for your franchise centrepiece.

Like i said earlier Mtl get the first overall pick then they could possibly entertain trade talk. Like i also said it’s very unlikely that Pettersson leave Vancouver.

Vancouver have a much better team then Mtl even id Pettersson was on Habs roster. Montembeault have been good last year but if he is just average this year, Habs will be right down the standing. They play a much tougher division.

Canucks might want those pieces but if there a scenario where Pettersson want out, you better lower your expectations. There not a team in the league that will pay that price. History have shown that the team giving up the best player aren’t getting equal value. You expect a scenario like Ottawa had for Karlsson. This is the kind of return that realistically will cost. Now i know that this is a inconceivable for you but it’s the reality. Like i said I would sah there a 90% chance that Pettersson stay in Vancouver.

Sorry I didn't specify but I'd have to think Suzuki or Reinbacher would be non-starters from Montreal's POV. You can compare to past deals, but in reality, a player of Pettersson's calibre hasn't been dealt in a very long time. The most recent comparable would probably be Tkachuk, who returned a 115 point star winger, a great shutdown top 4 RHD, a 1st, and a former 3rd round pick who just put up solid AHL numbers in his rookie season. Even now when you look back, Florida won that deal by a mile. Other comparable you could look to is Eichel, who returned a 1st, 2nd, middle 6 winger with potential upside (who is now a 1st line winger), and a former 1st round pick who was putting up great numbers in the AHL, and that return came with Eichel having an experimental neck surgery for a potentially career ending injury.

Canucks could do a deal like this, but if any of those assets fail to reach their potential, then they get completely screwed and loose their franchise centrepiece for pennies on the dollar. The Cauncks would want more certainty than this deal offers if they were to deal Pettersson, but it's pretty much a mute point since I can't see a scenario where they move him.