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Ottawa wants these 3 things in any trade for Shane Pinto

Created by: sensonfire
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 18, 2023
Published: Sep. 18, 2023
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1) A 1st round pick


2) 1-2 young NHL ready forwards that can play in Ottawa's bottom 6, that have a cap hit of less than 2 million and that have some upside.

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3) An overpayment because Ottawa doesn't want to trade him anywhere
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Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:31 p.m.
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Is that what they want? Or what you think they want?
Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:33 p.m.
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A 1st round pick doesn’t make them better this year. It needs to be a young player under 26 with top 6 potential
Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:33 p.m.
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Habs offer Kidney Kapanen CGY 1st and half retained Dvorak vs Joseph and Pinto.
Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:34 p.m.
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You won’t get any of that from anyone lmao the Sens have no leverage in these negotiations
Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:40 p.m.
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Quoting: GMDannyB
You won’t get any of that from anyone lmao the Sens have no leverage in these negotiations


They can move Kubalik, Brannstrom , Forsberg or Joseph . They don’t need to move Pinto
Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:42 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
A 1st round pick doesn’t make them better this year. It needs to be a young player under 26 with top 6 potential


That's basically what I meant in #2.

Who did you have in mind ?
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Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:44 p.m.
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Habs offer Kidney Kapanen CGY 1st and half retained Dvorak vs Joseph and Pinto.


Please read the description again.
Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:44 p.m.
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While I completely understand where you’re coming from. I can’t imagine many teams would line up to offer a 1st + a couple roster players who are cheap given how contract negotiations have supposedly panned out with Ottawa.

I’m not sure Pinto is the type of player you make those concessions for as well as pay out the ear at the same time. Not a bad player by any means. But not sure he pushes many teams over a hump.
Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Dink32788
Is that what they want? Or what you think they want?


What should Ottawa expect instead ?
Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:46 p.m.
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While I completely understand where you’re coming from. I can’t imagine many teams would line up to offer a 1st + a couple roster players who are cheap given how contract negotiations have supposedly panned out with Ottawa.

I’m not sure Pinto is the type of player you make those concessions for as well as pay out the ear at the same time. Not a bad player by any means. But not sure he pushes many teams over a hump.


The Sens are convinced he will be a top 6 centre with elite defence.
Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:46 p.m.
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What should Ottawa expect instead ?


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What should Ottawa expect instead ?


A 2nd and a mid player/prospect apparently lol
Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:47 p.m.
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Quoting: GMDannyB
You won’t get any of that from anyone lmao the Sens have no leverage in these negotiations


Says the guy who thinks Laughton is worth like 3 firsts.
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Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:47 p.m.
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Are you calling Elliotte Friedman a liar? He's gonna send his goons after you now. I'd watch my back if I were you. haha
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Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:48 p.m.
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Quoting: GMDannyB
You won’t get any of that from anyone lmao the Sens have no leverage in these negotiations


I'm sorry we rejected you.
Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:52 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
I'm sorry we rejected you.


Enjoy Laughton if the flyers trade goes through. It’s not gonna be TK or Frost line u guys are praying for lol
Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:53 p.m.
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Quoting: sens65
Says the guy who thinks Laughton is worth like 3 firsts.


He’s worth a 1st and a 2nd because that’s what the St Louis GM offered for him it’s not rocket science for most people to understand
Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:53 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
The Sens are convinced he will be a top 6 centre with elite defence.


I hope he does, and I’m sure they have a better viewing than I have had. I just have reservations. Rooting for the kid
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Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:54 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
They can move Kubalik, Brannstrom , Forsberg or Joseph . They don’t need to move Pinto


Yeah I’m saying ur going to end up losing the trade in whoever u do move because they have no leverage. If the GM decides it’s Pinto he will probably lose the trade same goes for anyone else they decide to trade to make the room
Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:55 p.m.
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I hope he does, and I’m sure they have a better viewing than I have had. I just have reservations. Rooting for the kid


He had 20 goals and 35pts as a rookie. Why is it okay for Laf to keep struggling like he does but Pinto misses a whole year and comes back as a rookie and scores 20 goals and plays solid defence even with 2 bad defensive wingers but no one think he can play top 6
Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:55 p.m.
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Are you calling Elliotte Friedman a liar? He's gonna send his goons after you now. I'd watch my back if I were you. haha


OH NO!!!!

WHAT AM I GOING TO DO ????
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Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:57 p.m.
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Quoting: GMDannyB
Enjoy Laughton if the flyers trade goes through. It’s not gonna be TK or Frost line u guys are praying for lol


Taking Laughton would almost certainly mean the Flyers get Joseph though.
Sep. 18, 2023 at 7:58 p.m.
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Are you calling Elliotte Friedman a liar? He's gonna send his goons after you now. I'd watch my back if I were you. haha


What did he say?
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Taking Laughton would almost certainly mean the Flyers get Joseph though.


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Taking Laughton would almost certainly mean the Flyers get Joseph though.


Pinto and Joseph for Laughton is still a massive L and very short sighted and even short sighted it’s still an L. Pinto will be a top 6 stud in 2 years and Laughton will be 31 and a 4th liner
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Sep. 18, 2023 at 8:03 p.m.
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Pinto and Joseph for Laughton is still a massive L and very short sighted and even short sighted it’s still an L. Pinto will be a top 6 stud in 2 years and Laughton will be 31 and a 4th liner


Laughton's cap hit is too high.

Like I said, the cap hit on the player coming back needs to be less than 2 million.

Under a million would be the most ideal.
Sep. 18, 2023 at 8:03 p.m.
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Taking Laughton would almost certainly mean the Flyers get Joseph though.


Yeah that’s perfectly fine lol like I said expect Joseph and Pinto for Laughton and like a 2nd if the trade actually happens and that’s still a huge Flyers win
 
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