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Is there an NHL team with worse goalie picks

Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 22, 2023
Published: Oct. 22, 2023
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So are we going to have to give away yet another 1st round pick to get rid of our number one goalie yet again? Why are TML so bad at picking goalies? Klingberg is not a defense. Brodie sucks and is too soft.
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PHI
  1. Samsonov, Ilya
  2. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
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TOR
  1. 2024 6th round pick (CHI)
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NYI
  1. Niemelä, Topi
  2. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (TOR)
  4. 2026 1st round pick (TOR)
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2026
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Oct. 22, 2023 at 12:19 a.m.
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Flyers decline anyway we don’t want Samsonov we have too many goalies already even without Hart. If we move in from him it’s because we want our other goalies playing. And if that’s just to take Samsonov’s cap back for you then ur gonna need to pay way more than that for getting Hart and dumping Samsonov on us
Oct. 22, 2023 at 12:34 a.m.
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Quoting: GMDannyB
Flyers decline anyway we don’t want Samsonov we have too many goalies already even without Hart. If we move in from him it’s because we want our other goalies playing. And if that’s just to take Samsonov’s cap back for you then ur gonna need to pay way more than that for getting Hart and dumping Samsonov on us


It is only 1 year of Samsonov it shouldn't cost that much, maybe we throw a prospect or another 3rd or something.
Oct. 22, 2023 at 12:37 a.m.
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Quoting: Leafsmustwin
It is only 1 year of Samsonov it shouldn't cost that much, maybe we throw a prospect or another 3rd or something.


Yeah another 3rd would do it
Oct. 22, 2023 at 12:42 a.m.
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Quoting: GMDannyB
Yeah another 3rd would do it


Samsonov is not a cap dump, yeah he has had a bad start to the season but he put up great numbers last year.
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Oct. 22, 2023 at 12:58 a.m.
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Pulock isn't getting traded anytime soon.
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Oct. 22, 2023 at 12:59 a.m.
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If that's what it takes to get Pulock, I'd do it.

I am not worried about the goaltending. Woll is good. Samsonov will settle down once the team gets some more. I certainly aren't liking a lot of things but it's still early.
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Oct. 22, 2023 at 2:44 a.m.
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If that's what it takes to get Pulock, I'd do it.

I am not worried about the goaltending. Woll is good. Samsonov will settle down once the team gets some more. I certainly aren't liking a lot of things but it's still early.


Yeah, considering that more accomplished goaltenders like Shesterksin and Helleybuyck are doing almost just as bad, I think there is hope for him, but the Leafs' defense is an issue. CAR's goalies are also all performing similarly to him even though their team is touted as being one of the best defensive teams. If he does end up getting left behind though, they can maybe take comfort in that Woll is doing good.
Oct. 22, 2023 at 7:22 a.m.
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I don’t see Chicago having an interest in a $5m diminishing asset like Brodie.
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Oct. 22, 2023 at 8:26 a.m.
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Quoting: GMBL
Yeah, considering that more accomplished goaltenders like Shesterksin and Helleybuyck are doing almost just as bad, I think there is hope for him, but the Leafs' defense is an issue. CAR's goalies are also all performing similarly to him even though their team is touted as being one of the best defensive teams. If he does end up getting left behind though, they can maybe take comfort in that Woll is doing good.


They did change their system this year as well. Last year they were straight zone defence and now they are trying a hybrid and it's not going great so far
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Oct. 22, 2023 at 8:42 a.m.
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Quoting: Levig01
Samsonov is not a cap dump, yeah he has had a bad start to the season but he put up great numbers last year.


If he is traded to the flyers on an expiring deal and the flyers have no interest in re-signing him because we have plenty of goalies coming up for us already then he is nothing more to us than you dumping his cap on us u can call it whatever you want I know he’s not a typical “he can’t play he’s a cap dump” but he’s a “we don’t need him and u need to move cap so we take him”
Oct. 22, 2023 at 8:58 a.m.
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So Brodie "sucks and is too soft" but the Hawks still gift Toronto $5m in cap space? Don't think so.
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Oct. 22, 2023 at 9:21 a.m.
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No, the Leafs aren't giving away a number one pick to get Hart You might (as you did in this post).
Too bad you missed the game tonight as Leaf pick Woll was outstanding shutting out Tampa.
Who is the so called # 1 Leafs goalie? Maybe it's Woll.
Oct. 22, 2023 at 11:55 a.m.
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No, the Leafs aren't giving away a number one pick to get Hart You might (as you did in this post).
Too bad you missed the game tonight as Leaf pick Woll was outstanding shutting out Tampa.
Who is the so called # 1 Leafs goalie? Maybe it's Woll.


Ummm I did watch the game and Samsonov is pathetic. You honestly think Woll is ready to be the number 1 goalie and play over 50 games this year? I like him a lot but that is a TALL order.
Oct. 22, 2023 at 1:34 p.m.
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Quoting: GMDannyB
If he is traded to the flyers on an expiring deal and the flyers have no interest in re-signing him because we have plenty of goalies coming up for us already then he is nothing more to us than you dumping his cap on us u can call it whatever you want I know he’s not a typical “he can’t play he’s a cap dump” but he’s a “we don’t need him and u need to move cap so we take him”

Then it would be a 3 team trade where the flyers half retain and I garuentee a team would give at least a 2nd for a half retained samsonov
Oct. 22, 2023 at 1:50 p.m.
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Then it would be a 3 team trade where the flyers half retain and I garuentee a team would give at least a 2nd for a half retained samsonov


Use one of ur retention slots and do it then. We are already using 1 and will almost certainly be using the other two at the deadline for guys already on our team.
Oct. 22, 2023 at 5:04 p.m.
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no to everyone but philly
Oct. 22, 2023 at 5:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Levig01
Samsonov is not a cap dump, yeah he has had a bad start to the season but he put up great numbers last year.


He's not a dump if sent to the right team. For the Flyers he would be considered a dump since we already have a surplus of goalie prospects we rather have playing than another veteran one.

Sammy shouldn't be dumped, its only the start of the season, everything has time to change.
 
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