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Created by: scottos
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 29, 2023
Published: Oct. 29, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Huberdeau, Jonathan
  2. Wolf, Dustin
  3. 2024 1st round pick (CGY)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (CGY)
2.
PHI
  1. Coronato, Matthew
  2. Kadri, Nazem
  3. Poirier, Jérémie
  4. 2025 1st round pick (FLA)
  5. 2026 1st round pick (CGY)
3.
CGY
  1. 2025 2nd round pick (DET)
  2. 2026 1st round pick (DET)
  3. 2026 2nd round pick (DET)
4.
CGY
  1. 2026 3rd round pick (CHI)
5.
6.
7.
OTT
  1. Raanta, Antti
  2. Weegar, MacKenzie
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (CGY)
  4. 2025 2nd round pick (DET)
  5. 2026 1st round pick (DET)
  6. 2026 2nd round pick (CGY)
8.
CGY
  1. Forbort, Derek
  2. 2026 2nd round pick (BOS)
9.
CGY
  1. Erne, Adam
  2. 2026 4th round pick (EDM)
10.
CGY
  1. 2026 2nd round pick (TBL)
11.
CGY
  1. 2026 3rd round pick (WPG)
12.
CGY
  1. 2026 1st round pick (CHI)
  2. 2026 2nd round pick (CHI)
13.
CGY
  1. Smith, Brendan
  2. 2026 1st round pick (NJD)
14.
CGY
  1. Garland, Conor
  2. 2026 2nd round pick (VAN)
15.
SJS
  1. Markström, Jacob
  2. Pelletier, Jakob
  3. Zary, Connor
  4. 2024 3rd round pick (CGY)
  5. 2024 4th round pick (CGY)
  6. 2025 2nd round pick (CAR)
  7. 2025 3rd round pick (CGY)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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Logo of the CGY
2026
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Logo of the NJD
Logo of the DET
Logo of the DAL
Logo of the BOS
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the WPG
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the EDM
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$66,243,333$0$0$17,256,667
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$3,250,000$3,250,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$775,000$775,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$3,100,000$3,100,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$855,833$855,833
RW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$5,100,000$5,100,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,300,000$1,300,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 4

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Oct. 29, 2023 at 11:47 p.m.
#1
Danny B is here
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This has to be a troll
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Oct. 29, 2023 at 11:48 p.m.
#2
GO FLAMES GO
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Trade 1.Trading Wolf and our 1st(especially with this team for the 1st) is extremely dumb
Trade 2. Short term gain? So retool? I see CGY keeping Kadri for a few more years if a retool isn't happening, and again Trading high picks(even if not our own) is dumb
Trade 3. CGY accepts, especially with how iffy he has been(yes everyone has been but still)
Trade 4. I could see it happening, Dube isn't working out to well for us
Trade 5. I'd do it, don't know if CAR does tho.
Trade 6. I'd do. Coleman has been decent but won't be when we are finished the retool, and Tanev can just walk.
Trade 7. Trading players who want to be here(Weegar signed long term) players like that should be kept and nothing in that package comes close to Weegar move the picks going to CGY would make it more fair.
Trade 8. I'd do. Greer has been good, but getting picks is important for a retool IMO
Trade 9. Duehr should be kept. Has been one of our best players, and if traded I wouldn't want him in division.(Players who we trade usually go off against us)
Trade 10. Yes. I'm not the biggest fan of Ruzicka, so I would be okay with that.
Trade 11. IDK much about Hakanpaa so I won't comment.
Trade 12. Cheap signed to term top pairing dman making less than 5 million? Players like that should be kept, baring a MASSIVE overpay.
Trade 13. I'd say thats around what Hanifin is worth 50% retained, but probably won't be from NJD
Trade 14. I could see happening if Zadorov refuses to resign and we need some more scoring
Trade 15. With how much capspace we have, keep Markstrom and good prospects. Not trade them for a worse goalie and cap dump
Oct. 29, 2023 at 11:58 p.m.
#3
You know nothing JS
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Congrats you made the team worse while loosing valuable picks along the way.
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Oct. 30, 2023 at 12:08 a.m.
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This wouldn't only be short term pain, this would be a decade of pain.
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Oct. 30, 2023 at 12:24 a.m.
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Is this Mike Milbury? Peter Chiarelli?
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Oct. 30, 2023 at 12:27 a.m.
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no. no to everything
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Oct. 30, 2023 at 1:33 a.m.
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scottos
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Quoting: GMDannyB
This has to be a troll


Nope

My main goal is In 4 years to have the most cap space possible so I am able to turn that cap space into picks
Oct. 30, 2023 at 1:36 a.m.
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scottos
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Quoting: jpsnow13
Congrats you made the team worse while loosing valuable picks along the way.


I don't care about picks tell 2027 TBH I want cap space and lots of it
Oct. 30, 2023 at 1:53 a.m.
#9
Good nerd
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Quoting: scottos
I don't care about picks tell 2027 TBH I want cap space and lots of it


You are overvaluing cap space. This year was unique because a lot of GMs expected a much bigger increase in the cap, and even then very few teams got more than 2nd or 3rd rounders for cap dumps. Maybe you can get a good aging veteran or two, but that won't help much.
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Oct. 30, 2023 at 7:07 a.m.
#10
Lets Get Kraken
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Canes aren’t moving Martinook, and as of right now, there is no plan to move Raanta. I would expect the Canes to have some interest in Mangiapane, but not for those pieces.
Oct. 30, 2023 at 7:16 a.m.
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CHI might be interested in Dube for a 3rd. As for Andersson, I'm not sure. That is a good price and he is a desirable player, but if CHI isn't planning on being a playoff team in the 25-26 season, I would think they might want to keep their lottery pick for the rebuild. That is the same year his contract expires and he would be turning 30 early the following season. That would have them watching Calgary use their 2026 1st round pick while negotiating a large extension with a 30 year old RHD and not being done with the rebuild. Sounds like that has mistake written all over it. If CHI wants Andersson that summer, they will just wait for him to be a UFA and give him an offer, rather than paying for years that they don't need him.
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Oct. 30, 2023 at 8:41 a.m.
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Some of these are just horrible for the Flames

Speaking for the Sens, I decline this deal because it doesn't feel right to abuse people in self-destruction mode
Oct. 30, 2023 at 10:38 a.m.
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Boston laughs at this
Oct. 30, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.
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Bruins put Greer on waivers over Forbort already this year, so trading for him doesn't make sense, and a 2nd for Martinook doesn't either when they have no issue finding bottom 6 forwards
 
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