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If petterson wants out

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Team: 2023-24 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 21, 2023
Published: Nov. 4, 2023
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 11:29 a.m.
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Pettersson is gonna resign
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 11:30 a.m.
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Even if EP does become available (doubtful), that's not close. There needs to be a high end young D included, at the very least.
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 11:32 a.m.
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Canucks pass AGAIN/STILL.IMHO.
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 11:46 a.m.
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Gonna cost you Raymond fabbri and a first at least
Nov. 4, 2023 at 11:47 a.m.
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Why would he want out?
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.
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Gonna cost you Raymond fabbri and a first at least


Fabbri? Lol
Nov. 4, 2023 at 11:54 a.m.
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Not nearly enough for Petey. I do like Kasper and Mazur though. But we're talking about one of the best players in the NHL right in his prime playing a premium position.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 12:02 p.m.
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Edited Nov. 4, 2023 at 12:12 p.m.
Probably more like Danielson Wallinder 1st rounder and probably a roster guy like Ras or Veleno
Nov. 4, 2023 at 12:06 p.m.
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If Pettersson became available he’d cost an unprecedented amount to acquire. Top centres are hard to acquire and that’s why they’re usually drafted and developed within a teams system instead of traded for. You’re looking at minimum 3 premium assets, plus 2 other good assets.

Toughest thing about this trade is Vancouver’s ownership - they don’t want to rebuild but a Pettersson trade would almost certainly signal the need for exactly that. So if would depend on the direction management was okay in going with for a move.

If Vancouver rebuilds: Edvinsson, Kasper, 1st round pick, Berggren, Maatta, 3rd round pick

If Vancouver wants to somehow keep competing: Edvinsson, Raymond, 2nd round pick, Rasmussen, 3rd or 4th round pick
Nov. 4, 2023 at 12:29 p.m.
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Even if EP does become available (doubtful), that's not close. There needs to be a high end young D included, at the very least.


its not enough, but not close? lol.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 12:56 p.m.
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Canucks decline. Pettersson doesn’t want out but if he did, this offer gets beat relatively easily.
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 1:44 p.m.
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If Vancouver does end up missing playoffs again and Petey says “screw it, trade me” it will take a hell of a lot more than that to get it done.

Eichel was arguably traded for more than this and Buffalo didn’t have the leverage that Vancouver would
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 3:23 p.m.
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Because everything that had happened this season so far points towards Pettersson wanting out. And you want the Canucks to trade him at a discount?
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 4:01 p.m.
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Because everything that had happened this season so far points towards Pettersson wanting out. And you want the Canucks to trade him at a discount?


The trade itself is bad. The idea that Petey may end up wanting out is still very possible as Petey still seems to be waiting to make a decision. He already has all the leverage he needs to get his bag.

Vancouver over preforming so far and still has a 1–2-1 record against teams with a .500 point’s percentage/teams in the top 20 in the standings right now
Nov. 4, 2023 at 4:10 p.m.
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The trade itself is bad. The idea that Petey may end up wanting out is still very possible as Petey still seems to be waiting to make a decision. He already has all the leverage he needs to get his bag.

Vancouver over preforming so far and still has a 1–2-1 record against teams with a .500 point’s percentage/teams in the top 20 in the standings right now


Have you ever thought about the fact that the Canucks winning against them is a reason they are below 0.500? Canucks have played half their games against teams who were considered cup contenders at the start of the year. I don’t expect them to continue to be at the top of the league, but let’s not pretend the Canucks are simply getting lucky
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Nov. 8, 2023 at 2:48 a.m.
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Have you ever thought about the fact that the Canucks winning against them is a reason they are below 0.500? Canucks have played half their games against teams who were considered cup contenders at the start of the year. I don’t expect them to continue to be at the top of the league, but let’s not pretend the Canucks are simply getting lucky


I get your point but it only slightly weakens mine. Take the Canucks games out all of those teams records, the Canucks wins still mainly come from losing teams. The goal differential even more so. And that’s not their fault, you play the games listed on the schedule. But I’m not going to act as if I believe the Canucks are going to continue shooting at a 15.5% clip and saving 93.6% of pucks.

Basically, I’m not going to expect their goal differential and record to stay at the top of the league when every metric and my eyes are telling me, it’s not sustainable. Talented team on an absolute heater, but once their top guys start to slow down and become human again, I’m worried that the makeup of the team could potentially lead to them being a streaky team. Which in a worst case scenario after a start like this, leads them to missing playoffs.

Am I predicting they miss playoffs right now? Absolutely not. To me they had a good shot at playoffs before the season and now they’re in prime position to make playoffs as a team that has finally had a good start, which is something they’ve missed greatly the past two seasons with how they’ve been able to make up ground towards the end of the year

TLDR:
Great start, unsustainable numbers. They need to improve defensively and challenge goalies with more volume (more volume ≠ more shots for the sake of taking more shots) so they can keep the scoring up and the goals against down. T

With how crazy their start has been, there’s a word in which that comedown to normal level is so drastic, that they fall out of playoff positioning by seasons end, thus triggering a Petey trade demand
Nov. 8, 2023 at 5:59 p.m.
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I get your point but it only slightly weakens mine. Take the Canucks games out all of those teams records, the Canucks wins still mainly come from losing teams. The goal differential even more so. And that’s not their fault, you play the games listed on the schedule. But I’m not going to act as if I believe the Canucks are going to continue shooting at a 15.5% clip and saving 93.6% of pucks.

Basically, I’m not going to expect their goal differential and record to stay at the top of the league when every metric and my eyes are telling me, it’s not sustainable. Talented team on an absolute heater, but once their top guys start to slow down and become human again, I’m worried that the makeup of the team could potentially lead to them being a streaky team. Which in a worst case scenario after a start like this, leads them to missing playoffs.

Am I predicting they miss playoffs right now? Absolutely not. To me they had a good shot at playoffs before the season and now they’re in prime position to make playoffs as a team that has finally had a good start, which is something they’ve missed greatly the past two seasons with how they’ve been able to make up ground towards the end of the year

TLDR:
Great start, unsustainable numbers. They need to improve defensively and challenge goalies with more volume (more volume ≠ more shots for the sake of taking more shots) so they can keep the scoring up and the goals against down. T

With how crazy their start has been, there’s a word in which that comedown to normal level is so drastic, that they fall out of playoff positioning by seasons end, thus triggering a Petey trade demand


You’re right of course they will regress, but that means instead of winning games 10-1, it’ll be something like 4-2. Doesn’t mean they will start losing a ton of games. They just won’t be lighting goalies up with 6 goals per game
Nov. 8, 2023 at 8:22 p.m.
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You’re right of course they will regress, but that means instead of winning games 10-1, it’ll be something like 4-2. Doesn’t mean they will start losing a ton of games. They just won’t be lighting goalies up with 6 goals per game


I didn’t say they’d be a losing team the second they started to cool off. I’m just willing to accept the possibility of their cool down and other teams’ bouncebacks potentially knocking them out of playoff positioning come seasons end.

Even during this run for Vancouver, they’ve given up the 4th most high danger chances against per game. No playoff team of the past 5 years has given up as many HDCF per game as Vancouver has so far this year. They need to improve defensively if they can’t keep killing the league in shooting percentage, which you simply can not realistically expect.
Nov. 9, 2023 at 2:55 a.m.
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I didn’t say they’d be a losing team the second they started to cool off. I’m just willing to accept the possibility of their cool down and other teams’ bouncebacks potentially knocking them out of playoff positioning come seasons end.

Even during this run for Vancouver, they’ve given up the 4th most high danger chances against per game. No playoff team of the past 5 years has given up as many HDCF per game as Vancouver has so far this year. They need to improve defensively if they can’t keep killing the league in shooting percentage, which you simply can not realistically expect.


The likelihood of the Canucks missing the playoffs at this point is ridiculously slim. You’re essentially banking on a season breaking losing streak by the Canucks and a historic comeback from several pacific division teams in order to knock them out of a playoff race. Take a look at the struggling pacific division teams. None of them look close to solving their issues.
 
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