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Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 10, 2023
Published: Nov. 10, 2023
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  1. Zadorov, Nikita
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Per Weekes, he has requested a trade
Toronto is a guess where he goes, any team can participate
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Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:00 p.m.
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He deserves a first for sure.
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:01 p.m.
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How Credible is Kevin Weekes!?

Zadorov asked for a Trade from the Bench!? That doesn’t make sense at all
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:03 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
How Credible is Kevin Weekes!?

Zadorov asked for a Trade from the Bench!? That doesn’t make sense at all


His agent was on Twitter saying he won't be in CGY long either also Weeks is pretty credible, my guess this has been in the making for a bit
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:04 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
How Credible is Kevin Weekes!?

Zadorov asked for a Trade from the Bench!? That doesn’t make sense at all


Has reported quite a few things before Elliott Friedman, but IDK if he it to credible with flames news, since he is the one who said that huge Eichel deal(Tkachuk 1st 2 prospects and former 1st)
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:04 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
How Credible is Kevin Weekes!?

Zadorov asked for a Trade from the Bench!? That doesn’t make sense at all


Probably the second most credible source behind Friedman.
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Has reported quite a few things before Elliott Friedman, but IDK if he it to credible with flames news, since he is the one who said that huge Eichel deal(Tkachuk 1st 2 prospects and former 1st)


Quoting: Flamesfan60
Probably the second most credible source behind Friedman.

So he has a good game, scores a goal, lays a big hit and wants out!? Doesn’t make sense to me, but they did show him fairly frustrated talking to Hanifin on the bench

This would really upset me if he gets moved, especially if it’s for the garbage we’re about to see posted on this site from TOR Fans

FML 🤦‍♂️
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Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Flamesfan60
He deserves a first for sure.


3rd pairing defensemen don't get 1sts.
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Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:10 p.m.
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I also find it hard to believe coming off the talk of him wanting to stay. Negotiations must've soured.
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:12 p.m.
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3rd pairing defensemen don't get 1sts.

You’re Hilarious 😂

Zadorov wouldn’t be on the 3rd Pairing in TOR. He’s better than McCabe. What’d you guys pay for him!?
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:13 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
You’re Hilarious 😂

Zadorov wouldn’t be on the 3rd Pairing in TOR. He’s better than McCabe. What’d you guys pay for him!?


Does it matter what he would be on Toronto? He's been a 3rd pairing defenseman on the Flames and has had trouble whenever hes given more responsibility. That's what you are trading.
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Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:14 p.m.
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Does it matter what he would be on Toronto? He's been a 3rd pairing defenseman on the Flames and has had trouble whenever hes given more responsibility. That's what you are trading.

YES! You don’t know what you’re talking about man
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:16 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
YES! You don’t know what you’re talking about man


How do you picture negotiations working?

Calgary: 'You guys are going to play him on a 2nd pairing, we want a 1st for him!'

Toronto: 'He is more important to us than other teams but no one else is offering you more than a 3rd, we'll give you a prospect too.'

Calgary: 'No way! We're just going to trade him for a 3rd because at least then he'll be played on a 3rd pairing!'
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:17 p.m.
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Well it depends whats the ask

If we look at the market so far for a guy like that its good but because hes a rental and mostly a 3rd pair guy in CGY the price not be as high as say a guy like Hanafin, Tanev, Weegar, Andersson, etc.


If we look at rentals traded

Edmunson went for a 3rd and 7th 50% ret

Thats the basis

Now per stats Zadorov has been CGY's best Dman next to Weegar.

A 1st is pushing. I know Chiarot but were in a new era

Last year only rental Dman to go for 1st = Orlov

McCabe had term, Chycrun had term, Ekholm had term, Sandin was an RFA, Hronek had term,

Meanwhile rentals like Schenn, Ghost, etc went for 3rd.


Its gonna be interesting to see what he gets as this is a new GM and if the Toffoli trade is a basis might be a 3rd and prospect coming back idk

Not my offer but yea it will be interesting
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Byrr
3rd pairing defensemen don't get 1sts.


'' ben chiarot enters the chat''
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Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:42 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
You’re Hilarious 😂

Zadorov wouldn’t be on the 3rd Pairing in TOR. He’s better than McCabe. What’d you guys pay for him!?


The Zadorov situation isn't the same as when McCabe was moved at the deadline. Also, McCabe had a 4m AAV with 2 more years remaining when he was dealt.

The problems the Flames face are:

1. Zadorov's an expiring UFA

2. He's openly asked for a trade and wants out of Calgary

Calgary has a ticking clock to move him. If Zadorov's agent is openly saying he's not long for Calgary, that puts his value way down. Teams are obviously going to lowball because they know the Flames are stuck. If you know the car lot is closing, you're not going to go there and buy a car at full price.

Calgary's best chance was to delay until the deadline when they could get top dollar. Based on what Milstein's comments are, it doesn't look like they can do that now.
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:43 p.m.
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How do you picture negotiations working?

Calgary: 'You guys are going to play him on a 2nd pairing, we want a 1st for him!'

Toronto: 'He is more important to us than other teams but no one else is offering you more than a 3rd, we'll give you a prospect too.'

Calgary: 'No way! We're just going to trade him for a 3rd because at least then he'll be played on a 3rd pairing!'

Treliving: “Craig, I’m interested in Zadorov”

Conroy: “Pound Sand Brad, I’m gonna take less from another Team before I make a Trade with you, just to spite you”
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:44 p.m.
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Quoting: westleysnipez
The Zadorov situation isn't the same as when McCabe was moved at the deadline. Also, McCabe had a 4m AAV with 2 more years remaining when he was dealt.

The problems the Flames face are:

1. Zadorov's an expiring UFA

2. He's openly asked for a trade and wants out of Calgary

Calgary has a ticking clock to move him. If Zadorov's agent is openly saying he's not long for Calgary, that puts his value way down. Teams are obviously going to lowball because they know the Flames are stuck. If you know the car lot is closing, you're not going to go there and buy a car at full price.

Calgary's best chance was to delay until the deadline when they could get top dollar. Based on what Milstein's comments are, it doesn't look like they can do that now.

What’s he gonna do, refuse to play lol!?
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:49 p.m.
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'' ben chiarot enters the chat''


That's what Habs fans said about Edmundson for 2 seasons. He got a 3rd with 50% retention. There's an obvious outlier in defensemen values when it comes to Chiarot. Trying to use it as a comparable is silly.
Nov. 11, 2023 at 12:16 a.m.
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That's what Habs fans said about Edmundson for 2 seasons. He got a 3rd with 50% retention. There's an obvious outlier in defensemen values when it comes to Chiarot. Trying to use it as a comparable is silly.


each year first are traded for bad players. pretending otherwise is silly. chiarot, foligno, jeannot. all these guys are ''gritty'' like zadorov, GM overpays for size and ''physical'' player. Cant turn a blind eye to it. doesnt mean i agree with it, but it is a trend.
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Nov. 11, 2023 at 12:23 a.m.
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What’s he gonna do, refuse to play lol!?


Doesn't matter. Zadorov has openly said he doesn't want to be there, other teams are going to take advantage of that.

The deal I'd compare it to is Petry out of Montreal.

Petry had 42 pts in 55 games the season prior and was a firm #1 in Montreal and was packaged with a then-up-and-coming 22y/o centre in Ryan Poehling for Mike Matheson, who was a #4/#5 defender and 4th round pick.

The equivalent would be Zadorov and Martin Pospisil for someone like Andrew Peeke and a 4th.
Nov. 11, 2023 at 12:24 a.m.
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Quoting: drambui
'' ben chiarot enters the chat''


can't believe we got this much for this zamboni
Nov. 11, 2023 at 12:25 a.m.
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Doesn't matter. Zadorov has openly said he doesn't want to be there, other teams are going to take advantage of that.

The deal I'd compare it to is Petry out of Montreal.

Petry had 42 pts in 55 games the season prior and was a firm #1 in Montreal and was packaged with a then-up-and-coming 22y/o centre in Ryan Poehling for Mike Matheson, who was a #4/#5 defender and 4th round pick.

The equivalent would be Zadorov and Martin Pospisil for someone like Andrew Peeke and a 4th.

Bahahahaha

Petry & Zadorov are nothing alike, nor are they comparable

@drambui is right, Big Gritty Guys go for a Premium. It’ll be more like Chiarot
Nov. 11, 2023 at 12:39 a.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Bahahahaha

Petry & Zadorov are nothing alike, nor are they comparable

drambui is right, Big Gritty Guys go for a Premium. It’ll be more like Chiarot


Petry and Chiarot are the same size...

Florida was a team desperate to get passed the first round. All the other quality RHD were gone.

Calgary doesn't have a team in the same state of desperation, they're the ones on the back foot here, like Montreal was with Petry.
Nov. 11, 2023 at 12:44 a.m.
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Quoting: westleysnipez
Petry and Chiarot are the same size...

Florida was a team desperate to get passed the first round. All the other quality RHD were gone.

Calgary doesn't have a team in the same state of desperation, they're the ones on the back foot here, like Montreal was with Petry.

Both are Defensemen, that’s where their similarities end

BIG MEAN GRITTY SHUT DOWN Defensemen are far more valuable and appealing to GM’s than One Dimensional Offensive Defensemen, especially when they have boat anchors for contracts like Petry had with 2-3 years worth of term remaining
Nov. 11, 2023 at 12:54 a.m.
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Both are Defensemen, that’s where their similarities end

BIG MEAN GRITTY SHUT DOWN Defensemen are far more valuable and appealing to GM’s than One Dimensional Offensive Defensemen, especially when they have boat anchors for contracts like Petry had with 2-3 years worth of term remaining


Petry was a legitimate #1 defenseman for five years on the Habs, playing 22 mins+, he definitely wasn't a one-dimensional offensive defenseman. Zadorov hasn't played more than 19 mins/ATOI since Chicago. You gotta take the homer glasses off.
 
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