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Moving out the UFAs

Created by: Hammerwise
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 13, 2023
Published: Nov. 13, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
  3. 2024 5th round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Tanev, Christopher ($2,250,000 retained)
2.
CGY
  1. Attard, Ronnie
  2. Frost, Morgan
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (CBJ)
3.
CBJ
  1. Vladar, Daniel
  2. 2024 4th round pick (CGY)
4.
5.
CGY
  1. Myers, Philippe
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (TBL)
6.
CGY
  1. 2024 4th round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
3rd party cap eating of 2mil or so, MAYBE COL
COL
7.
CGY
  1. 2025 4th round pick (EDM)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$83,500,000$77,059,166$0$2,627,500$6,440,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
C
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
RFA - 2
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$762,500$762,500
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$825,000$825,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333
LW
RFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$1,550,000$2M)
C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$813,333$813,333 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
G
RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$850,000$850,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
C
UFA - 1

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Nov. 13, 2023 at 9:24 a.m.
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Got the picks on the wrong side of that leaf’s deal, leaf’s decline for the 1000th time
Nov. 13, 2023 at 9:45 a.m.
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Edited Nov. 13, 2023 at 10:24 a.m.
On what planet does Greer command a 3? Please don't give me the Myers cost to dump Bulls*** if that's your answer then TB keeps Myers and offers a 6and a 6 is more than fair.
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Nov. 13, 2023 at 9:56 a.m.
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Liligren value > Tanev
Nov. 13, 2023 at 11:35 a.m.
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I mean if Lindholm wants to sign in Philly... sure?
Nov. 13, 2023 at 11:37 a.m.
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Peeke for the fourth is fine. Columbus doesn't have a spot of Vladar with Tarasov about to come of IR. Spencer Martin's probably headed back to waivers himself, and Vladar requires them to go to the AHL.
Nov. 13, 2023 at 11:58 a.m.
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Alex Turcotte is finally healthy and playing like the player the Kings drafted. The Kings aren't going to trade him for a 3LD.
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Nov. 13, 2023 at 2:14 p.m.
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Might want to stick to Leafs & Flyers AGM’s bud, these are all over the map

1.TOR over values Liljegren and doesn’t want to give him up
2. 1C Lindholm is worth something between Horvat and whatbthe INJURED Eichel got in Trade. There’s not much of value here. Attard has to pass through waiver next season and I’m with Torts, Frost isn’t a very good player
3. Peeke = 4th
4. Bjornfot & Turcotte are essentially Busts/AHL Players at this point, Zadorov’s value is significant right now
5. Myers isn’t worth anything, nor does he have negative value and Greer isn’t worth a 3rd. Might get a 5th/6th/7th max
6. Unlike Greer, Oesterle literally has no value, but you’re right that we wouldn’t help out EDM for nothing, so they’d have to over pay on any trade with CGY
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Nov. 13, 2023 at 7:00 p.m.
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Might want to stick to Leafs & Flyers AGM’s bud, these are all over the map

1.TOR over values Liljegren and doesn’t want to give him up
2. 1C Lindholm is worth something between Horvat and whatbthe INJURED Eichel got in Trade. There’s not much of value here. Attard has to pass through waiver next season and I’m with Torts, Frost isn’t a very good player
3. Peeke = 4th
4. Bjornfot & Turcotte are essentially Busts/AHL Players at this point, Zadorov’s value is significant right now
5. Myers isn’t worth anything, nor does he have negative value and Greer isn’t worth a 3rd. Might get a 5th/6th/7th max
6. Unlike Greer, Oesterle literally has no value, but you’re right that we wouldn’t help out EDM for nothing, so they’d have to over pay on any trade with CGY


In what world is Turcotte a "bust/AHL player"? 2-8-10 in 12 games to start the AHL after battling head injuries the last few years. Won't provide ROI from his initial draft slot but to say he's doesn't have some NHL caliber left is wild.
Nov. 13, 2023 at 7:17 p.m.
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Edited Nov. 13, 2023 at 7:22 p.m.
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In what world is Turcotte a "bust/AHL player"? 2-8-10 in 12 games to start the AHL after battling head injuries the last few years. Won't provide ROI from his initial draft slot but to say he's doesn't have some NHL caliber left is wild.

I’m sincerely sorry Mr, Turcotte, I know it’s never fun to read that your son isn’t probably going to amount to much when there was such high hope

Honestly, I admit, I don’t know much about Turcotte. Is his head issues Mental Illness Related or Concussion Related!?

Regardless, neither bode’s well for a Professional Athlete. You know how many guys kill it in the AHL and just don’t cut it in the NHL!? I would hope a Top-5 Pick, especially one who’s played his entire life in North America, wouldn’t just put up a PPG in the AHL, but by the time they were 22+ shouldnbe absolutely tearing the league up

In any event, I didn’t say he’s worthless or might never become an NHL Player, I simply eluded to the fact that he’s treading with and/or heading towards bust status

Why would CGY be interested in an American Hockey Player with Head Issues that isn’t Waiver Eligible next season? It just doesn’t offer us much value compared to a 1st Round Pick or Younger Prospect of our choosing, which is what we’re hoping for if we Trade Zadorov

I noticed you didn’t jump to Bjornfoot’s defence, but CGY has no need for an LD who appears to be a full fledged BUST

Is there anything else I can assist you with Mr. Turcotte!! If not, have yourself a wonderful day
Nov. 13, 2023 at 7:49 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
I’m sincerely sorry Mr, Turcotte, I know it’s never fun to read that your son isn’t probably going to amount to much when there was such high hope

Honestly, I admit, I don’t know much about Turcotte. Is his head issues Mental Illness Related or Concussion Related!?

Regardless, neither bode’s well for a Professional Athlete. You know how many guys kill it in the AHL and just don’t cut it in the NHL!? I would hope a Top-5 Pick, especially one who’s played his entire life in North America, wouldn’t just put up a PPG in the AHL, but by the time they were 22+ shouldnbe absolutely tearing the league up

In any event, I didn’t say he’s worthless or might never become an NHL Player, I simply eluded to the fact that he’s treading with and/or heading towards bust status

Why would CGY be interested in an American Hockey Player with Head Issues that isn’t Waiver Eligible next season? It just doesn’t offer us much value compared to a 1st Round Pick or Younger Prospect of our choosing, which is what we’re hoping for if we Trade Zadorov

I noticed you didn’t jump to Bjornfoot’s defence, but CGY has no need for an LD who appears to be a full fledged BUST

Is there anything else I can assist you with Mr. Turcotte!! If not, have yourself a wonderful day


Turcotte has had concussion problems the last few years which have impeded his development and should be taken into account when assessing his development curve. I agree he doesn't and won't hit his DY potential, but in his first year when he is healthy, he has played well so far. I can agree that maybe Turcotte wouldn't be an ideal fit for Calgary or optimal in a Zadorov trade, but my comment was related to saying he's "essentially a bust/AHL player".

As for Bjornfot, he's not anything more than a 7th or bottom pair defensemen at this point. Didn't comment on his status because I agree with what you said.

I'm not super bullish on Zadorov netting a 1st rounder, but would think his value is similar to Gavrikov from last year's deadline.
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Nov. 13, 2023 at 8:41 p.m.
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Turcotte has had concussion problems the last few years which have impeded his development and should be taken into account when assessing his development curve. I agree he doesn't and won't hit his DY potential, but in his first year when he is healthy, he has played well so far. I can agree that maybe Turcotte wouldn't be an ideal fit for Calgary or optimal in a Zadorov trade, but my comment was related to saying he's "essentially a bust/AHL player".

As for Bjornfot, he's not anything more than a 7th or bottom pair defensemen at this point. Didn't comment on his status because I agree with what you said.

I'm not super bullish on Zadorov netting a 1st rounder, but would think his value is similar to Gavrikov from last year's deadline.

Sounds like you know better than me, so I defer to you on that. Sorry if I come across like jerk lol, having a bit of a manic day lol.

So basically something like a 1st + Klingberg + 3rd FOR Zadorov + Grier

Without retention it’s okay and nets a 1st at least, just not sure about wanting/needing Klingberg or whether we could flip and for what. Many are saying TOR should add at least a 2nd to dump him alone
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