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Created by: habitantlecolon
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 23, 2023
Published: Nov. 23, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Campbell, Jack
  3. Holloway, Dylan
  4. McLeod, Ryan
  5. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
  6. 2026 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
2.
MTL
  1. Perry, Corey
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (OTT)
CHI
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Campbell, Jack
  3. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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Logo of the CGY
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$75,210,416$1,170,000$5,242,500$8,289,584
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$775,000$775,000 (Performance Bonus$325,000$325K)
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,985,000$1,985,000 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,100,000$2,100,000
C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$867,500$867,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$775,000$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1

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Nov. 23, 2023 at 6:29 p.m.
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Hawks need more to take Campbell and won’t be sending assets back.
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Nov. 23, 2023 at 6:31 p.m.
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Credit where it's due, a lot of the time when people do stuff this extravagent it somehow turns into 1 team giving up a 6th rounder and a 4th line bum and somehow ending up with connor mcdavid at the end of it, but this feels relatively even. I'm sure there could be a bit of nitpicking here and there, probably to do with Josh Anderson and his contract, but this is interesting and there isn't some team getting totally hosed or the opposite, on first glace at least. Think the bigger point of contention will be that the Hawks will need more to take Campbell and don't give up the 3rd. Perry is impossible to really say because of whatever the hell is going on with him right now
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Nov. 23, 2023 at 6:39 p.m.
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Seems very bad for Edmonton

Anderson is just as bad of a contract as Campbell, which leaves Holloway, Bourgault, McLeod, a 1st and 2nd for Allen, Norlinder, and Kapanen
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Nov. 23, 2023 at 6:47 p.m.
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Seems very bad for Edmonton

Anderson is just as bad of a contract as Campbell, which leaves Holloway, Bourgault, McLeod, a 1st and 2nd for Allen, Norlinder, and Kapanen

It's atrocious for EDM.
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Nov. 23, 2023 at 6:58 p.m.
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Quoting: SupremeBone
It's atrocious for EDM.


it's an opinion but I disagree! You guys always blast other players wildly and it's pure emotion, not a good judgment. Can you see a speedy hitter like McGod and bring some needed help? Allen is way better than all your goalies and can stop the D-core fall. Norlinder and Kapanen are second-zone prospects, but give you a chance to grab a good youngster and hope one of them blossoms ( Kapanen is that kind of kid to us so far ).

It's a loss-loss-loss deal but those subtractions help chemistry in all those teams
Nov. 23, 2023 at 7:00 p.m.
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That doesn't pay for Campbell let alone get anything in return
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Nov. 23, 2023 at 7:01 p.m.
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Quoting: emoprettyboy
Credit where it's due, a lot of the time when people do stuff this extravagent it somehow turns into 1 team giving up a 6th rounder and a 4th line bum and somehow ending up with connor mcdavid at the end of it, but this feels relatively even. I'm sure there could be a bit of nitpicking here and there, probably to do with Josh Anderson and his contract, but this is interesting and there isn't some team getting totally hosed or the opposite, on first glace at least. Think the bigger point of contention will be that the Hawks will need more to take Campbell and don't give up the 3rd. Perry is impossible to really say because of whatever the hell is going on with him right now



I love to try to be creative and create AGM totally out of the blue and see the reactions.
Nov. 23, 2023 at 7:03 p.m.
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
That doesn't pay for Campbell let alone get anything in return


You guys need to stop pretending to know market value while many experts claim Bourgault + 1st is the tag price ... so calm down no team wins that 3-way.... this is gibberish to me to see people commenting this way!
Nov. 23, 2023 at 7:12 p.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
it's an opinion but I disagree! You guys always blast other players wildly and it's pure emotion, not a good judgment. Can you see a speedy hitter like McGod and bring some needed help? Allen is way better than all your goalies and can stop the D-core fall. Norlinder and Kapanen are second-zone prospects, but give you a chance to grab a good youngster and hope one of them blossoms ( Kapanen is that kind of kid to us so far ).

It's a loss-loss-loss deal but those subtractions help chemistry in all those teams

It's always "everyone else is wrong and coming purely from emotion" with you. We've been over this before. The only reason to pay a fortune to dump Campbell is to gain cap flexibility and by including Anderson as part of the return, you completely counter the point of spending to move him.

If that was all it took for CHI to take Campbell, we'd just skip the middleman and then send something like a 2nd for a goalie like Allen and, in doing so, save ourselves from losing McLeod & Holloway and from committing 5.5mil for 3 more years to Anderson.
Nov. 23, 2023 at 7:20 p.m.
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Quoting: SupremeBone
It's always "everyone else is wrong and coming purely from emotion" with you. We've been over this before. The only reason to pay a fortune to dump Campbell is to gain cap flexibility and by including Anderson as part of the return, you completely counter the point of spending to move him.

If that was all it took for CHI to take Campbell, we'd just skip the middleman and then send something like a 2nd for a goalie like Allen and, in doing so, save ourselves from losing McLeod & Holloway and from committing 5.5mil for 3 more years to Anderson.


and as always you always diminish the players ... kudos to say I will always disagree with you
Nov. 23, 2023 at 7:35 p.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
and as always you always diminish the players ... kudos to say I will always disagree with you

At no point did I diminish any of the players involved. I made a case for why they don't fit into a trade of this type from EDM's perspective. Even if I take your position and grant you that stating that "I think Allen is worth around a 2nd" or that "Anderson doesn't fit what EDM would need/want" implies that I'm diminishing them, what exactly do you think your proposal did about EDM's players (and picks)?
Nov. 23, 2023 at 7:53 p.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
You guys need to stop pretending to know market value while many experts claim Bourgault + 1st is the tag price ... so calm down no team wins that 3-way.... this is gibberish to me to see people commenting this way!


That does not pay for a Campbell dump. And no "expert" is saying that.
Nov. 23, 2023 at 8:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Garak
That does not pay for a Campbell dump. And no "expert" is saying that.


ŷou guys can kiss the sun for me ?
Nov. 23, 2023 at 8:05 p.m.
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ŷou guys can kiss the sun for me ?


lol. I mean... If some other team wants to take on Campbells contract for that, they can be my guest. But, that team isn't going to be CHI.
Nov. 23, 2023 at 8:15 p.m.
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Quoting: SupremeBone
It's atrocious for EDM.


I think its no bad up until you add Anderson
Whats the point of paying to clear Campbell to take Anderson for Free?
Im a Habs fan and even i was like Da Fuq?


Swap Anderson and Harris
Norlinder and Trudea Swap(Trudeaus better but more well rounded while Norlinder is a PP QB and not much else)

Then EDM get more , saves cap

I think CHI needs more or MTL needs to RS on Campbell of at least 1.5m
I still say give them all the EDM return but Holloway and have CHI send us Dach #2
Nov. 23, 2023 at 8:33 p.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
You guys need to stop pretending to know market value while many experts claim Bourgault + 1st is the tag price ... so calm down no team wins that 3-way.... this is gibberish to me to see people commenting this way!


That was the Price for a Goalie package from us
They were saying there's few Goalies available
Many people are in need of Goaltending as injuries pile up.
I didnt remember Campbell being part of it

I mean didnt they buy out Suter, Parise, Perry , Duchene ,Bailey,Wheeler,Yammamoto,and DeAngelo because they couldnt move their contracts cheap enough?
It would cost WAY more then that return based on this years trends alone
Nov. 23, 2023 at 8:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Billy316
I think its no bad up until you add Anderson
Whats the point of paying to clear Campbell to take Anderson for Free?
Im a Habs fan and even i was like Da Fuq?


Swap Anderson and Harris
Norlinder and Trudea Swap(Trudeaus better but more well rounded while Norlinder is a PP QB and not much else)

Then EDM get more , saves cap

I think CHI needs more or MTL needs to RS on Campbell of at least 1.5m
I still say give them all the EDM return but Holloway and have CHI send us Dach #2


well finally someone trying to argue instead of triviality thank you sire !
 
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