Both sides stopped negotiations. Calgary made it very clear they stopped negotiations with every pending UFA when they were 3rd last in the league at the start of November. Zadorov's trade request followed up by him saying he would still gladly play the rest of his career in Calgary is evidence of that he wants to keep the ball rolling.

As for the trades,
Zadorov will get more than a 3rd easily.
Tanev may get a 1st but I don't fully expect it unless a lot of teams want him.
Lindholm will get more than that, maybe add Lohrei and it's fair since Calgary has to wait a year for the 1st (that is also likely protected too)
Trading a top 25 prospect, a high 1st, and another 1st for 1.5 years of Ekblad is absurd.

Leafs accept but we could beat that zadorov offer and take him too

He said no to 7.5 per??

That's not true. Here's LeBrun saying that Hanifin refused until he saw where Calgary was going. That's like saying it was a mutual breakup when your girlfriend said she wants to see other people.

Im just saying if im giving a 1st + 3rd I want someone else coming back with Tanev

As if we look last year

Gavrikov + Korpisalo went for that PKG and CBJ took Quick's 5.8m

So what you thinking Tanev goes for.

To me I could see this pkg if someone else goes with him

Basically what we saw LA and CBJ do with Gavrikov + Korpisalo

If Hanifin walks from 8x 7.5 he is a fool cause no one is giving him 7x8.5 his only of recouping the difference is an American team in a state with no state income tax.

Gavrikov + Korpisalo for 1st + 3rd + 5.8M Cap Dump

Take out the cap dump and it becomes a 2nd + 3rd for Gavrikov + Korpisalo

But CBJ were asking for a 1st for Gavrikov before that so I dont think they would have done a 2nd + 3rd

The main reason they took Quick was mainly the money and also VGK called and said hey you get him we will trade yah for him

That's quite the exaggeration, it was reported that Calgary stopped extension talks with all their pending UFA's. That includes Hanifin. Maybe Hanifin suggested the idea (None of us were in the room so we don't know for sure) but it was definitely closer to a mutual decision to hold off a signing than a "**** this I'm not signing an extension here."

The trade could have easily been 2nd + 2nd + 3rd + Cap Dump for Gavrikov and Korpisalo. I think that's because they valued the retention on Quick's 2.9M cap hit as a 2nd. See the Dickinson trade earlier that season where Vancouver paid a 2nd to move 2.65M in cap out.

Last year was not a buyers market at all. Gavrikov was supposed to go to Boston until Washington decided to sell Orlov at the last minute. If Columbus didn't trade him to LA in that deal they probably weren't moving him at all.

David Savard went for a 1st and a 3rd in a sellers market, that is a far more accurate trade comparison

If you're at 7.5 AAV for noah hanifin, and that deal isn't signed instantly, he does NOT want to be in calgary

I think it's more a question of a player especially an East Coast American wanting to play for a more a contending team instead of the geographically "isolated", middling Flames.

LeBrun is one of the most respected insiders in the league. One could argue that only Friedman is more trusted.

If LeBrun is saying that Hanifin declined the Flames offer, then that's what happened. LeBrun doesn't make stuff up for clicks.

No a 1st and a 3rd is very much within reason for Tanev alone. Again last years market is not comparable, you got Schenn for a 3rd because everyone was looking at better options

Schenn, Braun, Kulikov, Kulak, Zadorov, these are all similarly priced players. You'll get a 3rd.

Tanev is in the same vein as Leddy, Manson, Graves, etc. He's worth about a 2nd.

Well I dont blame him from walking away depending on what we see happen in CGY. If they gonna retool or build maybe he does not want to stick around

Maybe if he is moved he signs that extension with his new team

As there are so many factors into signing an extension. Is the team good, do I want to stay, could I get more via FA, etc.

Like Lindholm did

But does LeBrun really know? He would have to get that information from either Hanifan's agent or a Flame executive. While I do think the Flames did make an offer to Hanifan as most teams do make an offer to their good UFAs, (and Hanifan declined). is there anything than LeBrun said that could be consider "insider".
Flames 95% sure made an offer. The amount of $$$ unknown. (Lebrun can just be guessing) Obviously Hanifan declined. Nothing really insightful.

Graves was dumped for cap space, Leddy's game fell off a cliff long before he was moved, Manson returned a 2nd and a good prospect. Tanev's base trade value is 2 2nds. Depending on demand he could get more like Savard did, or he could get less like Klingberg did.

You are also off the mark completely with Zadorov. Chiarot alone is proof enough of that. You are literally only naming players moved in a buyers market when it probably won't be a buyers market this deadline. He will get a 2nd+ minimum

He didn't simply decline though. They were working out details like pricing per year, M-NTC, signing bonuses, etc. Then the team had a **** start to the season and they put everything on hold

What do you mean, 'does LeBrun really know?'

LeBrun isn't some hack that tries to stir up nonsense. If he's reporting it, its true.

Flames fans keep pointing to Chiarot, but he is the exception, not the rule. That trade happened two years ago. The vast majority of the market is 3rd round picks for bottom-pairing guys.

Seems like one or both parties just didn't want to sign. Surely if they were that close, they could have worked out the details within a few weeks of season opening.

Here's my thought, and it IMO relevant to so many players/team in the Hanifan/Flames situation.
Hanifan would have signed cause he wanted financial security. Does a Massachusetts native really want to play on a middling Calgary team the rest of career. I assume not.
Flames who are middling, just might be better going another route. Get some assets back on TDL for Hanifan, and spend that Hanifan money (7.5m or whatever) on other player(s) next season.

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OK, if you want to believe, good for you.