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Created by: MTLaveragefan

Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 5, 2024

Published: Jan. 5, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

All trade assume that player waiver their NMC or NTC.

Will the player do it? Who knows... but work with the assumption to evaluate the trades.

Habs use the picks to move up in the draft or acquire a better first round pick.

Trades

MTL

Goodrow, Barclay
2024 1st round pick (NYR)

NYR

Harris, Jordan
Pearson, Tanner ($1,625,000 retained)
2026 2nd round pick (MTL)

MTL

Faksa, Radek
2024 2nd round pick (DAL)

DAL

Kovacevic, Johnathan

Additional Details:

Potential RHD to play with Miro - very responsible youngist stay-at-home D, that can skate it as well (plus he's a big guy).

plus he's very cheap and with Faksa gone, you have 2.4M$ in cap to get more help.

Could also be Savard, but you might have to overpay for him for untangibles (he's a respected D vet on the team), but he would be great for a playoff run - will block shot with his face.

MTL

Guenther, Dylan
2024 1st round pick (ARI)

ARI

Matheson, Michael
Monahan, Sean
2024 3rd round pick (MIN)
2025 3rd round pick (VAN)

MTL

2025 2nd round pick (NYR)

Additional Details:

ANY TEAM - chose ARI not to bait another fan base on my AGM.

Would like at least a late 2nd.

ARI

Allen, Jake

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Joel Edmundson: $1,750,000 (50%)
Jeff Petry: $2,343,750 (50%)
Tanner Pearson: $1,625,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$66,316,250	$1,170,000	$5,135,000	$17,183,750

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 2	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 7	Caufield, Cole $7,850,000$7,850,000 LW, RW UFA - 8
Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4	Goodrow, Barclay $3,641,667$3,641,667 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 4	Guenther, Dylan $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 2
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 2	Ylönen, Jesse $775,000$775,000 RW, LW RFA - 1
Pezzetta, Michael $812,500$812,500 LW, RW UFA - 2	Faksa, Radek $3,250,000$3,250,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
		Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($275,000$275K) RD RFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 1
Struble, Jayden $867,500$867,500 ($57,500$58K) LD RFA - 2	Xhekaj, Arber $828,333$828,333 LD/RD RFA - 1	Primeau, Cayden $890,000$890,000 G RFA - 2
Norlinder, Mattias $859,167$859,167 ($32,500$32K) LD RFA - 1	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 2
	Lindström, Gustav $950,000$950,000 RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Newhook, Alex $2,900,000$2,900,000 C, LW RFA - 4	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 3
	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 3
		Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2

Jan. 5 at 10:30 a.m.

jonh514

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This would certainly result in us losing even more games!

Jan. 5 at 10:31 a.m.

jonh514

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Who do you want in the draft if not Celebrini?

Jan. 5 at 10:35 a.m.

Subbanator7667

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Allen doesn't get a 2nd without retention or taking a contract back

Anaheim doesn't even consider that deal

Habs will keep losing games, what they really need is Ottawa to start winning games

Jan. 5 at 10:35 a.m.

Terrifiedofeveryone

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Pearson and Harris don’t really fit anywhere in the Ranger’ lineup.

Jan. 5 at 10:35 a.m.

MTLaveragefan

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Quoting: jonh514

This would certainly result in us losing even more games!

Yep. Cayden Lindstrom time!

Jan. 5 at 10:36 a.m.

BadaBing

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Quoting: jonh514

Who do you want in the draft if not Celebrini?

Eiserman or Demidov

Jan. 5 at 10:38 a.m.

Rags21

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I’d rather someone better than Pearson and they don’t have use for Harris since he isn’t waivers exempt

Jan. 5 at 11:07 a.m.

Marked_Difference

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Matheson would be a maybe for AZ but there should be no interest in Monahan. Matheson would be a short-term player in AZ so his couple of remaining years would be about it. For that the return would be a 2nd or a B+ prospect like Raty. Certainly not the 1st and/or A prospect suggested.

Jan. 5 at 11:09 a.m.

MTLaveragefan

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

Allen doesn't get a 2nd without retention or taking a contract back

Anaheim doesn't even consider that deal

Habs will keep losing games, what they really need is Ottawa to start winning games

Anaheim?

no issue in taking a contract back

Jan. 5 at 11:10 a.m.

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Quoting: Terrifiedofeveryone

Pearson and Harris don’t really fit anywhere in the Ranger’ lineup.

Harris is a pretty decent young LHD -you'll be suprise!

Pearson is nearly a cheaper goodrow depth-player who has stanley cup experience.

Jan. 5 at 11:12 a.m.

#11

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Quoting: MTLaveragefan

Anaheim?

no issue in taking a contract back

Arizona, my bad

Jan. 5 at 11:25 a.m.

#12

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Quoting: MTLaveragefan

Harris is a pretty decent young LHD -you'll be suprise!

Pearson is nearly a cheaper goodrow depth-player who has stanley cup experience.

Who do they displace on LD or LW?

Jan. 5 at 11:26 a.m.

#13

Shanesaw9

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You aren't getting enough value out of taking Goodrow and Faksa contracts.

You'd be lucky to draft a player like Kovacevic in the 2nd round so why not just keep Kovacevic? Harris + a 2nd for a late 1st, why? You're eating $13M in Goodrow and Faksa and getting nothing in return.

Allen not worth a 2nd round pick. A 3rd with taking some salary back maybe.

Jan. 5 at 11:54 a.m.

#14

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Rangers pass no matter how many times you post the same trade.

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Jan. 5 at 12:10 p.m.

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There is absolutely no chance Arizona spends even 2 seconds considering that offer. Just brutal

Jan. 5 at 12:14 p.m.

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Quoting: Onlyfairtrades1

Rangers pass no matter how many times you post the same trade.

Last time I posted it - other Rags fan agreed - hey look at that! Different opinion for different folks.

Jan. 5 at 12:16 p.m.

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Quoting: Yotes269

There is absolutely no chance Arizona spends even 2 seconds considering that offer. Just brutal

Matheson is 14th in pts for Dman. He would play on your first pair right away.

Maybe the first is too much - but it's not a brutal offer, far from it.

Jan. 5 at 12:21 p.m.

#18

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Quoting: MTLaveragefan

Last time I posted it - other Rags fan agreed - hey look at that! Different opinion for different folks.

And the next time you post it, and you will, the answer will still be no chance.

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Jan. 5 at 3:09 p.m.

#19

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NYR and ARZ both say no.

Jan. 5 at 4:05 p.m.

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Yotes269

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Quoting: MTLaveragefan

Matheson is 14th in pts for Dman. He would play on your first pair right away.

Maybe the first is too much - but it's not a brutal offer, far from it.

Arizona isn’t a Matheson away from anything, it’s a brutal offer. Guenther isn’t even remotely on the table, and if the 1st is then they’re shooting for Hanifin re-signed.

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