The Brendan Smith effect

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
31	$83,500,000	$37,327,500	$0	$400,000	$46,172,500

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
O'Brien, Liam $775,000$775,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Carrick, Sam $425,000$425,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Greer, AJ $762,500$762,500 RW, LW UFA - 1
Frederic, Trent $2,300,000$2,300,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Goodrow, Barclay $3,641,667$3,641,667 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 4	Olivier, Mathieu $1,100,000$1,100,000 RW UFA - 2
Lemieux, Brendan $800,000$800,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Kastelic, Mark $835,000$835,000 C, RW RFA - 2	MacEwen, Zack $775,000$775,000 RW, C UFA - 3
Lomberg, Ryan $800,000$800,000 LW, RW UFA - 1		Hathaway, Garnet $2,375,000$2,375,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Gadjovich, Jonah $810,000$810,000 LW, RW UFA - 1		Sabourin, Scott $775,000$775,000 RW UFA - 2
Maroon, Patrick $800,000$800,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1		Reaves, Ryan $1,350,000$1,350,000 RW UFA - 3
Pezzetta, Michael $812,500$812,500 LW, RW UFA - 2		Kolesar, Keegan $1,400,000$1,400,000 RW UFA - 2
Martin, Matt $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Deslauriers, Nicolas $1,750,000$1,750,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3
Smith, Givani $800,000$800,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Clifford, Kyle $762,500$762,500 LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
MacDermid, Kurtis $987,500$987,500 LD/RD, LW UFA - 1	Brown, Joshua $1,275,000$1,275,000 RD UFA - 1
Xhekaj, Arber $828,333$828,333 LD/RD RFA - 1	Bogosian, Zach $850,000$850,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1
Harpur, Ben $787,500$787,500 LD UFA - 2	Schneider, Braden $925,000$925,000 ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 1
Seeler, Nick $775,000$775,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	McIlrath, Dylan $775,000$775,000 RD UFA - 2
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1
Dillon, Brenden $3,900,000$3,900,000 LD UFA - 1

Jan. 6 at 4:57 p.m.

#1

NYR1983

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Brendan Smith isn’t afraid to fight. He isn’t changing his game with any of these guys on the ice. I haven’t seen the hit but I know Smith doesn’t have the mentality of “I’m going to break his jaw with this hit”. He plays physical and sometimes lines are crossed when players play physically. Not intentionally crossed, just crossed. Some of these players may help detour some hits but not all.

Jan. 6 at 4:59 p.m.

#2

dgibb10

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Clean hit Brendan smith lays that no matter who’s on the ice. Not letting bedard walk in on a power play

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Jan. 6 at 5:01 p.m.

#3

dk325

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Yes, the hit still would have happened because it wasn't a predatory hit at all. He stepped up into Bedard and it was just an unfortunate result of a solid check on a guy reaching for the puck that he wound up with a broken jaw.

Jan. 6 at 5:04 p.m.

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ricochetii

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Quoting: NYR1983

Brendan Smith isn’t afraid to fight. He isn’t changing his game with any of these guys on the ice. I haven’t seen the hit but I know Smith doesn’t have the mentality of “I’m going to break his jaw with this hit”. He plays physical and sometimes lines are crossed when players play physically. Not intentionally crossed, just crossed. Some of these players may help detour some hits but not all.

Smith was elbow tight to the body, wasn't chasing the hit, and didn't leave his feet.
Bedard was low and reaching while looking at the puck in open ice trying to get through defenders.

It's a lesson young players need to learn. Preferably before they get rocked. You can't carry the puck through players with your head down in the NHL. Sometimes you have to let the puck go in order to protect yourself.

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Jan. 6 at 5:15 p.m.

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Quoting: ricochetii

Smith was elbow tight to the body, wasn't chasing the hit, and didn't leave his feet.
Bedard was low and reaching while looking at the puck in open ice trying to get through defenders.

It's a lesson young players need to learn. Preferably before they get rocked. You can't carry the puck through players with your head down in the NHL. Sometimes you have to let the puck go in order to protect yourself.

Just be thankful it was Smith and not Trouba

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Jan. 6 at 5:25 p.m.

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dgibb10

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Quoting: NYR1983

Just be thankful it was Smith and not Trouba

Why because trouba wouldn’t have answered the bell?

Jan. 6 at 5:27 p.m.

#7

NYR1983

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Quoting: dgibb10

Why because trouba wouldn’t have answered the bell?

Huh?! Trouba would have hit him harder for starters. What’s this not answering the bell garbage?

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Jan. 6 at 5:38 p.m.

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Quoting: NYR1983

Brendan Smith isn’t afraid to fight. He isn’t changing his game with any of these guys on the ice. I haven’t seen the hit but I know Smith doesn’t have the mentality of “I’m going to break his jaw with this hit”. He plays physical and sometimes lines are crossed when players play physically. Not intentionally crossed, just crossed. Some of these players may help detour some hits but not all.

Quoting: dgibb10

Clean hit Brendan smith lays that no matter who’s on the ice. Not letting bedard walk in on a power play

Quoting: dk325

Yes, the hit still would have happened because it wasn't a predatory hit at all. He stepped up into Bedard and it was just an unfortunate result of a solid check on a guy reaching for the puck that he wound up with a broken jaw.

Guys guys guys if I'm miss leading you into thinking I'm saying it was a dirty hit or something I don't mean to, it was a clean hit through the body with an unfortunate outcome similarly to Dennis Gilbert the other night. I'm asking if a designated tough guy was present at the time would Smith have just tried to poke the puck off his stick? Or still try to bury a guy?

Jan. 6 at 5:40 p.m.

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Quoting: Hckeydude123

Guys guys guys if I'm miss leading you into thinking I'm saying it was a dirty hit or something I don't mean to, it was a clean hit through the body with an unfortunate outcome similarly to Dennis Gilbert the other night. I'm asking if a designated tough guy was present at the time would Smith have just tried to poke the puck off his stick? Or still try to bury a guy?

He didn’t try to bury him tho. He didn’t leave his feet, or skate into the hit. Unfortunate location and **** happens in a violent sport when you have no padding on your chin.

Smith could have made that much much worse.

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Jan. 6 at 5:41 p.m.

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Quoting: Hckeydude123

Guys guys guys if I'm miss leading you into thinking I'm saying it was a dirty hit or something I don't mean to, it was a clean hit through the body with an unfortunate outcome similarly to Dennis Gilbert the other night. I'm asking if a designated tough guy was present at the time would Smith have just tried to poke the puck off his stick? Or still try to bury a guy?

Yeah, the point we're making is that it wasn't the kind of hit that tough guys deter. It was just a simple check that you don't expect to lead to a guy getting hurt. You just kinda expect to knock him over at worst and he gets up and the game carries on.

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Jan. 6 at 5:43 p.m.

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Quoting: dk325

Yeah, the point we're making is that it wasn't the kind of hit that tough guys deter. It was just a simple check that you don't expect to lead to a guy getting hurt. You just kinda expect to knock him over at worst and he gets up and the game carries on.

Like that’s really the bare minimum of an open ice hit. Didn’t leave his feet and didn’t skate into it. **** happens

Jan. 6 at 5:46 p.m.

#12

NYR1983

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Quoting: Hckeydude123

Guys guys guys if I'm miss leading you into thinking I'm saying it was a dirty hit or something I don't mean to, it was a clean hit through the body with an unfortunate outcome similarly to Dennis Gilbert the other night. I'm asking if a designated tough guy was present at the time would Smith have just tried to poke the puck off his stick? Or still try to bury a guy?

The answer is no. Wilson and Reaves could be on the wing for him and smith is finishing his hit.

Jan. 6 at 6:29 p.m.

#13

NHLfan10506

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It was not a dirty hit or even that hard of a hit. It just caught Bedard in wrong spot.

It’s not a hit that most guys have to ‘answer the bell’ for. A couple of guys approached Smith earlier in game and he did not engage. But he accepted when Foligno came up to him before a face-off and said, “you gotta give me one”.

But in general, I think NHL does a lousy job protecting its stars. They should take more active role…especially for hits that may be clean, but have intent to injure…or are retaliatory (such as Murphy jumping Hischier when he didn’t have puck).

Jan. 6 at 7:36 p.m.

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I just watched it, it was a clean hit and wasn't even very hard.

No one on the Hawks should have retaliated at all.

This generation of NHLers gets this type of stuff COMPLETELY WRONG!

Jan. 6 at 7:38 p.m.

#15

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

It was not a dirty hit or even that hard of a hit. It just caught Bedard in wrong spot.

It’s not a hit that most guys have to ‘answer the bell’ for. A couple of guys approached Smith earlier in game and he did not engage. But he accepted when Foligno came up to him before a face-off and said, “you gotta give me one”.

But in general, I think NHL does a lousy job protecting its stars. They should take more active role…especially for hits that may be clean, but have intent to injure…or are retaliatory (such as Murphy jumping Hischier when he didn’t have puck).

I see star players getting away with **** all the ****ng time, I'd say the league protects their stars just fine, protecting everyone and being even in their suspensions and reffing is where they fail big time.

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