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Created by: JeffGorton
Team: 2024-25 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 10, 2024
Published: Jan. 10, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$800,000
3$900,000
2$900,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$12,500,000
2$1,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,000,000
1$1,500,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Pettersson, Elias [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Now here me out

Habs offer this trade to Vancouver. If they do not accept, you Offer Sheet him at 14m x 5 years

If they accept this trade, give him 12.5m x 5 years
VAN
  1. Farrell, Sean
  2. Newhook, Alex
  3. Reinbacher, David
  4. 2025 1st round pick (CGY)
  5. 2025 1st round pick (MTL)
  6. 2026 1st round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
2026 1st is actually for 2027
2.
MTL
ANA
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. Dvorak, Christian ($2,225,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Both traded either in 2024 tdl or July 1st

Really anywhere
3.
DAL
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. 2024 5th round pick (SJS)
4.
MTL
  1. 2025 7th round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Barron, Justin [RFA Rights]
  3. Ylönen, Jesse [RFA Rights]
  4. 2025 3rd round pick (VAN)
5.
MTL
CHI
  1. 2024 1st round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
Draft Zayne Parekh with this pick
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MIN
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the WSH
2025
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the DET
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CHI
2026
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$75,353,750$1,022,500$3,977,500$8,146,250
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 7
$12,500,000$12,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 2
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
UFA
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 6
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$3,250,000$3,250,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,150,000$3,150,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$867,500$867,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
RFA
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$800,000$800,000
LW, RW
RFA - 3

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Jan. 10 at 9:18 a.m.
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Pettersson ain’t goiing nowhere. Vancouver have a history with Swede players, they have couple more young swede coming and Pettersson will extend there. I would love him in a Habs jersey but this ain’t happening. Even with that kind of offer.
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Jan. 10 at 9:22 a.m.
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Hes loving it in Vancouver do you honestly think he wants out.Lets be real .Hes not going anywhere.IMHO.
Jan. 10 at 9:22 a.m.
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Canucks accept trade and then immediately offer sheet Pettersson. Basically trading 1st round picks for 3 years in a row plus Reinbacher.
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Jan. 10 at 9:28 a.m.
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Vancouver already identified Hugues & Petty as their core for the next 5-8years... he is not going anywhere.
As a Habs fan I would say YES to any TOP c in the league.. but this one is not realistic
Jan. 10 at 9:36 a.m.
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You know nothing JS
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A Playstation owner I see.
Jan. 10 at 9:47 a.m.
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Quoting: Sebyr987
Canucks accept trade and then immediately offer sheet Pettersson. Basically trading 1st round picks for 3 years in a row plus Reinbacher.


then the Habs match it but nay trade involving Pete would have an extension signed with it
Jan. 10 at 9:53 a.m.
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You actually made the team worse. HOW!!!!!!!
Jan. 10 at 10:10 a.m.
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If that 1st round pick is 8th overall, like it currently is, CHI probably accepts. I might even be willing to throw in Colton Dach, which I know would make @habitantlecolon happy.
Jan. 10 at 11:08 a.m.
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Quoting: BadaBing
You actually made the team worse. HOW!!!!!!!


yes i made the team worse by adding a 100 point player and Toffoli. Without giving up Hutson, a 2024 1st (Habs end up drafting a RHD better than Reinbacher) and the likes of Roy, Beck and Mesar
Jan. 10 at 11:33 a.m.
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Quoting: Garak
If that 1st round pick is 8th overall, like it currently is, CHI probably accepts. I might even be willing to throw in Colton Dach, which I know would make habitantlecolon happy.


Don't think that 1st is part of the Anderson deal. I think OP is just showing who the Habs draft w/ that pick.
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Jan. 10 at 11:36 a.m.
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I like the idea of Barron as part of an Anderson to the Hawks deal. But Ylonen and a 3rd isn't enough to push this across the finish line for me. One or the other needs to be upgraded.
Jan. 10 at 11:36 a.m.
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Quoting: Hawksguy81
Don't think that 1st is part of the Anderson deal. I think OP is just showing who the Habs draft w/ that pick.


If that is the case, then CHI absolutely declines. I thought maybe they were just a noob who forgot to add it so they created a whole new trade to do so.
Jan. 10 at 11:48 a.m.
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Edited Jan. 10 at 12:04 p.m.
Quoting: Hawksguy81
I like the idea of Barron as part of an Anderson to the Hawks deal. But Ylonen and a 3rd isn't enough to push this across the finish line for me. One or the other needs to be upgraded.


Barron is fine, but by himself he does not even come close to getting this deal done. Anderson has 3 years left at a $5.5M cap hit and is owed $15.5M in salary. Ylonen and the 3rd are not even a drop in the bucket of what MTL needs to add to get this done. They can make the argument all they want that he shouldn't cost that much to dump, but just last season they charged CGY a 1st to dump a contract that wasn't nearly as bad as Anderson's is. They set the price themselves, so making that argument would be hypocritical.
Jan. 10 at 12:47 p.m.
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Keep on dreamin bro. I'm sure it will help long term...............or not
Jan. 10 at 12:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Hawksguy81
I like the idea of Barron as part of an Anderson to the Hawks deal. But Ylonen and a 3rd isn't enough to push this across the finish line for me. One or the other needs to be upgraded.


Barron is a worth a 1st and Ylonen and the 3rd is worth a 2nd, for 3 years of Anderson is plenty
Jan. 10 at 1:17 p.m.
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Easy pass for Canucks.
Petey is not available.
Jan. 10 at 1:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Garak
Barron is fine, but by himself he does not even come close to getting this deal done. Anderson has 3 years left at a $5.5M cap hit and is owed $15.5M in salary. Ylonen and the 3rd are not even a drop in the bucket of what MTL needs to add to get this done. They can make the argument all they want that he shouldn't cost that much to dump, but just last season they charged CGY a 1st to dump a contract that wasn't nearly as bad as Anderson's is. They set the price themselves, so making that argument would be hypocritical.


It's a different scenario when you have $9M in cap space while Calgary had none. The cap was also still static. Calgary was desperate and Montreal was the cheapest (perhaps only) option or they would have sent him elsewhere.
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Jan. 10 at 1:50 p.m.
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I mean it’s a great offer for Pettersson but the only way the Canucks move him is if he won’t re-sign. And if he won’t I don’t see why he’d sign in Montreal but not Vancouver
Jan. 10 at 2:47 p.m.
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Quoting: JeffGorton
Barron is a worth a 1st and Ylonen and the 3rd is worth a 2nd, for 3 years of Anderson is plenty


If that's how the Habs are valuing Barron and Ylonen, then there's no need to discuss this proposal any further. Just make it Anderson, the '25 1st and the '26 2nd and we got a deal.
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Jan. 10 at 2:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Hawksguy81
If that's how the Habs are valuing Barron and Ylonen, then there's no need to discuss this proposal any further. Just make it Anderson, the '25 1st and the '26 2nd and we got a deal.


Barron was a former 1st round drafted prospect and is doing well in the NHL rn, how does he go down in value since then?
Jan. 10 at 3:11 p.m.
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Barron was a former 1st round drafted prospect and is doing well in the NHL rn, how does he go down in value since then?


Very fair point. But the reality when dealing w/ Kyle from Chicago is that HE values picks over prospects in every deal he's made so far. Not certain he'd value Barron same as he would an actual 1st round pick.
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Jan. 10 at 4:42 p.m.
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Quoting: ricochetii
It's a different scenario when you have $9M in cap space while Calgary had none. The cap was also still static. Calgary was desperate and Montreal was the cheapest (perhaps only) option or they would have sent him elsewhere.


True. But the margin there isn't this wide. You either need to move him or you don't. If you need to move him, pay up. Easy peasy.
Jan. 10 at 4:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Hawksguy81
Very fair point. But the reality when dealing w/ Kyle from Chicago is that HE values picks over prospects in every deal he's made so far. Not certain he'd value Barron same as he would an actual 1st round pick.


Yeah. Almost none of the players he has acquired via trade were long term pieces. They were either cap dumps and/or flippable players, or they were stop gaps. KD wants to build through the draft, and if he is taking on cap dumps he doesn't want MORE roster players as payment. The cap dumps are already adding to our roster and contract limits. And he isn't giving up futures for just about any reason.
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