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Created by: habsrule10101

Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 23, 2024

Published: Jan. 26, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Monahan (easily) and Hopefully Savard should be able to fetch a first round pick this off season. If MTL eats 50% of monahan deal, almost any team should be able to squeeze 950k into there lineup..... Plus Jeanott, Folingo, Coleman, Savard, Chariot all got 1st round picks over the last few years, and Monahan is probably one of the better ones in that list, and savard could be a reliabable D option for teams

Assume Colarado and Tampa would be interested for a guy that can wins draws and play up/down a lineup...... And not sure what team would be interested in a top 4D, so using Edmonton in this case

Trades

MTL

2024 1st round pick (COL)

COL

Monahan, Sean ($950,000 retained)

MTL

2024 1st round pick (EDM)

EDM

Savard, David ($1,750,000 retained)

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Joel Edmundson: $1,750,000 (50%)
Jeff Petry: $2,343,750 (50%)
Sean Monahan: $950,000 (47.86%)
David Savard: $1,750,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$75,107,083	$1,170,000	$4,310,000	$8,392,917

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Caufield, Cole $7,850,000$7,850,000 LW, RW UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 7	Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 2
Roy, Joshua $835,000$835,000 ($57,500$58K) LW, RW RFA - 3	Newhook, Alex $2,900,000$2,900,000 C, LW RFA - 4	Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW RFA - 2
Pearson, Tanner $3,250,000$3,250,000 LW UFA - 1	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 2	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Pezzetta, Michael $812,500$812,500 LW, RW UFA - 2	Stephens, Mitchell $775,000$775,000 C UFA - 1	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Kovacevic, Johnathan $766,667$766,667 RD UFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 1
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Harris, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Allen, Jake $1,925,000$1,925,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Struble, Jayden $867,500$867,500 ($57,500$58K) LD RFA - 2	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($275,000$275K) RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 3
Ylönen, Jesse $775,000$775,000 RW, LW RFA - 1	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 3
Primeau, Cayden $890,000$890,000 G RFA - 2	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1

Jan. 26 at 3:02 p.m.

Larrylnh

Joined: Jun. 2023

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You can't have more than 3 retained salary

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Jan. 26 at 3:03 p.m.

Oilers_29

Joined: Sep. 2023

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Savard isn’t gonna get you a first he’s a bottom pairing defensemen no chance and Edmonton doesn’t need him he isn’t an upgrade over Ceci.

It’s funny to me how Habs fans really believe these guys are gonna return a 1st

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Jan. 26 at 3:03 p.m.

SK101

Joined: Feb. 2022

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You’re over the retention limit. I also wouldn’t say either easily gets a first especially without taking on bad salary back. For starters you’d probably have to take back RyJo for Monahan

Jan. 26 at 3:11 p.m.

Altar7358

Joined: Dec. 2022

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Friedman today said he doesn’t think Monahan will get a first and teams don’t think he’s a 2c avs shouldn’t be the one to go for Monahan

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Jan. 26 at 3:43 p.m.

turtlemountain

Joined: Jun. 2015

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Quoting: Altar7358

Friedman today said he doesn’t think Monahan will get a first and teams don’t think he’s a 2c avs shouldn’t be the one to go for Monahan

Link?

Jan. 26 at 4:06 p.m.

Android_H_Jones

Joined: Jan. 2017

Posts: 486

Likes: 527

Colorado requires their centers be above average skaters.

RyJo is struggling in Colorado primarily bc he's a below average skater.

Monahan is a worse skater than RyJo.

This isn't a fit, no matter how much Montreal fans believe it is.

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Jan. 26 at 4:12 p.m.

ricochetii

Go Habs Go

Joined: Mar. 2017

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Quoting: turtlemountain

Link?

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/nhl-rumour-roundup-can-the-canadiens-get-a-first-round-pick-for-sean-monahan/

Quoting: sportsnetca

"I would say a) it depends on how many teams are interested and b) it also depends on what the chances are of a team being interested to re-sign him," Friedman explained. "I would say the base line he's probably not a guy they get a first-rounder for unless a team wants to extend him or there's such a race for him it pushes it up into that first round range."

Link with relevant passage.

Bolded is the factor in play. Is there enough competition to raise the price.

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Jan. 26 at 4:12 p.m.

jpsnow13

You know nothing JS

Joined: Jan. 2017

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Quoting: Altar7358

Friedman today said he doesn’t think Monahan will get a first and teams don’t think he’s a 2c avs shouldn’t be the one to go for Monahan

Quoting: turtlemountain

Link?

Today's 32 thoughts podcast

He also said:

"It depends on A) how many teams are interested and B) what are the chances a team is interseted in resigning him"

"the base line is he's not a guy they are gonna get a 1st round for, unless a team wants to exted him or there's such a race for him that push it up in that 1st round range.".

#selectivehearing

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Jan. 26 at 4:19 p.m.

Altar7358

Joined: Dec. 2022

Posts: 514

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Quoting: turtlemountain

Link?

Most recent 32 thoughts pod like 18 min mark

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Jan. 26 at 4:26 p.m.

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JeffW

Joined: May 2017

Posts: 4,191

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Quoting: jpsnow13

How many teams are looking for a 2C that will be in it at the deadline, we know that Boston, Vancouver and Colorado are definitely looking...

There is lindholm, henrique, Jenner, monahan, johansen, and frost on the market for sure.. then you have guys like hertl, zegras, giroux, roslovic, konecney, and others who are less talked about but possible trade candidates.

Doesn't sound like at this point that there will be a frenzy for monahan... that could change but he's a terrible fit for this colorado team

Jan. 26 at 4:34 p.m.

#11

Altar7358

Joined: Dec. 2022

Posts: 514

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Quoting: jpsnow13

He’s not a 2c and he absolutely wouldn’t be extended by us. Hes not going to the avalanche. How many suitors are really gonna want him as a 3rd liner anyway? Panthers lightning and maybe the devils even though he’s really not a skating fit for the devils. Thats about it not much of a bidding war there

Jan. 26 at 4:48 p.m.

#12

ricochetii

Go Habs Go

Joined: Mar. 2017

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Quoting: JeffW

How many of those have a cap hit less than $1M?
Monahan is an option for every team. The rest are only options for maybe a couple of teams.
Teams can make additional moves to fit more cap, but there will be extra costs attached.
Monahan doesn't require a lot of hoops. Send a pick, get the player, swap him in.

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Jan. 26 at 4:55 p.m.

#13

jpsnow13

You know nothing JS

Joined: Jan. 2017

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Quoting: ricochetii

And because of this, I see TB being a dark horse. Great fit in the line up, great fit under the cap, GM known to throw picks for depth, maybe a cheap replacement for Stamkos, generally just a good move to keep other contenders to get him...

And EDM would take ANY kind of low hit depth...

Jan. 26 at 5:32 p.m.

#14

JeffW

Joined: May 2017

Posts: 4,191

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Quoting: ricochetii

For a premium sure, or they throw a 5th at someone to retain salary.. send a guy down, or pull a toronto and put someone on LTIR for no reason.. seems like a buyers market at this point

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