How many of you said MoNaHaN iS nOt WoRtH a FiRsT

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Created by: Taz

Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 2, 2024

Published: Feb. 2, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

MTL

Monahan, Sean

WPG

2024 1st round pick (WPG)

Additional Details:

Conditionnal 3rd

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Joel Edmundson: $1,750,000 (50%)
Jeff Petry: $2,343,750 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$76,185,416	$1,170,000	$3,992,500	$7,314,584

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Caufield, Cole $7,850,000$7,850,000 LW, RW UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 7	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Pearson, Tanner $3,250,000$3,250,000 LW UFA - 1	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 2	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Monahan, Sean $1,985,000$1,985,000 ($15,000$15K) C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Pezzetta, Michael $812,500$812,500 LW, RW UFA - 2		Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 2
		Ylönen, Jesse $775,000$775,000 RW, LW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Allen, Jake $1,925,000$1,925,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Harris, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Kovacevic, Johnathan $766,667$766,667 RD UFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 1
Struble, Jayden $867,500$867,500 ($57,500$58K) LD RFA - 2		Primeau, Cayden $890,000$890,000 G RFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 2
Xhekaj, Arber $828,333$828,333 LD/RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 3
	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 3
	Newhook, Alex $2,900,000$2,900,000 C, LW RFA - 4
	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1

Feb. 2 at 2:06 p.m.

#26

MisstheWhalers

Joined: Jan. 2019

Posts: 23,766

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

who are you referring to?

These Habs fans who can't differentiate between someone saying what you think someone is worth and what you think they could get for said player.

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Feb. 2 at 2:13 p.m.

#27

MisstheWhalers

Joined: Jan. 2019

Posts: 23,766

Likes: 12,427

Quoting: Birtle34

Chevy saw little 2.0 and had to have

Sorry, I don't get what you mean?

Feb. 2 at 2:15 p.m.

#28

Birtle34

Bandwagon fairweathe

Joined: Jun. 2018

Posts: 7,698

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Sorry, I don't get what you mean?

Just reminds me a ton of little, hopefully doesn’t end the same

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Feb. 2 at 2:45 p.m.

#29

Bcarlo25

Joined: May 2018

Posts: 21,376

Likes: 7,064

Quoting: Subbanator7667

It's quite literally not a subjective opinion once the trade is made. Opinion is what you think will happen, when that opinion gets factually proven wrong, then you're just wrong and it's okay to be wrong sometimes

ohhhh were back to the literally guy!

it is. i guess we have to go through a vocabulary lesson today.

Did he get a first round pick? yes
was he worth a first round pick? unsure. Monahan could wind up winning the conn smythe en route to a cup and absolutely be worth a first round pick.

He might not fit, and be a healthy scratch. absolutely not worth it.

If you google "define: worth," you might get some info that helps you in this discussion. literally

sheesh.

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Feb. 2 at 2:46 p.m.

#30

jgimp69

Jet69

Joined: Jan. 2018

Posts: 2,603

Likes: 1,152

Quoting: Camper27

Congrats, on getting what you received from the Jets.

Hopefully, Monahan brings what we are hopeful for a "productive 2C" going forward. The cost that was paid was a hefty one, probably driven upward by the price paid in the Lindholm deal the other day. I still have concerns about his injury history over the last couple years. As a final comment, still believe that a current year mid second round pick (45 - 52) would have been a fair return for this trade.

Many of the Mtl supporters called it as it played out. Congrats!!!!

Yeah, I think most fans on both sides knew how this was going to play out. It’s unfortunate the extremes on both sides masked the reality,
Habs fans thinking a 1st and a top prospect with Jets fans a 3rd. Realistically speaking, an inconsequential late 1st has always been the going rate at the deadline, always has been.
Hope it works out for both teams.

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Feb. 2 at 2:47 p.m.

#31

Subbanator7667

Subbanator

Joined: Jul. 2017

Posts: 7,517

Likes: 3,440

Quoting: Bcarlo25

If you buy a $100 worth of groceries then that's their value, you stating he isn't worth a 1st and then having a team literally pay a 1st for him proves his value. Not that hard of a concept, things are worth what people pay for them, hence what their value is.

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Feb. 2 at 2:54 p.m.

#32

Bcarlo25

Joined: May 2018

Posts: 21,376

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

it literally seems like you literally don't know the literal definition of the word worth.

that's sad. actually, hold on. that's not fair. is french your first language? if so, i retract.

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Feb. 2 at 2:59 p.m.

#33

BorisBagel

Boris Bagel

Joined: Oct. 2016

Posts: 2,894

Likes: 624

Habs got robbed, Monahan was definitely worth an unprotected 1st and a conditional 2nd

Feb. 2 at 3:22 p.m.

#34

Commonsense27

Joined: Jan. 2017

Posts: 741

Likes: 297

Not worth a first.is debatable, but many said "no chance they get a first" lol. Love it

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Feb. 2 at 3:26 p.m.

#35

phillyjabroni

Joined: Mar. 2017

Posts: 10,392

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Quoting: Taz

No matter if he really is worth or not, fact is that everyone that did Monahan vs 1st proposals where right, and everyone complaining about it were wrong.
It is always the same, players are overpaid at TDL, and much capfriendly users don't understand that.

I think (and maybe it was just my experience), but the logic on why they were going to get a 1st wasn't really why they got a 1st. A lot of it was based on how he was on a 60 point pace and how he would be a powerplay threat for teams like Colorado, even though his 5v5 stats aren't superb or would be on COL's top powerplay. I also saw some trades were it was Turcotte + 2nd or Monahan + for Byram

Feb. 2 at 3:33 p.m.

#36

Subbanator7667

Subbanator

Joined: Jul. 2017

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

it literally seems like you literally don't know the literal definition of the word worth.

that's sad. actually, hold on. that's not fair. is french your first language? if so, i retract.

Must be nice to live in backwards land, enjoy being wrong on this one and probably wrong many more times

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Feb. 2 at 3:42 p.m.

#37

Bcarlo25

Joined: May 2018

Posts: 21,376

Likes: 7,064

Quoting: Subbanator7667

Must be nice to live in backwards land, enjoy being wrong on this one and probably wrong many more times

its not my fault you don't know what a five letter word means.

Feb. 2 at 3:44 p.m.

#38

Subbanator7667

Subbanator

Joined: Jul. 2017

Posts: 7,517

Likes: 3,440

Quoting: Bcarlo25

its not my fault you don't know what a five letter word means.

Not my fault you can't admit you were wrong, it's okay though lil guy one day you may learn from your mistakes

Feb. 2 at 3:50 p.m.

#39

Bcarlo25

Joined: May 2018

Posts: 21,376

Likes: 7,064

Quoting: Subbanator7667

Not my fault you can't admit you were wrong, it's okay though lil guy one day you may learn from your mistakes

and maybe one day you'll learn english!

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