That's a massive overpayment for Ullmark. Take out Batherson and its fair.

Too much

Ullmark. NTC

Hawks easily decline. 5 pieces and the Hawks don't want any of them.

Ahh yes, the standard quantity over quality proposal… Hawks decline.

What a crazy way to look at player values. Ullmark wouldn't fetch half that and there's not a single part of that Murphy trade chicago would actually want.

He’s got a modified NTC

And Ottawa is on it🤷🏻‍♂️

lol that Batherson trade is horrendous. I know Sens goaltending has been the worst in the league this season but giving a top line forward and #2-3 D-man (both 25 y/o) to get a goalie with 1 year left is C.R.A.Z.Y.


Don't think Murphy has that much value left. Brannstrom has very sexy advanced stats and makes less, cost controlled and younger. Very versatile too


What is Murphy value you think?

Murphy is a perfect top pair defenseman for any team that has a stud offensive LD. His numbers are ugly on the hawks cus everyone's numbers are ugly on the hawks. The team is bad by design. To other teams I think his value is probably a late 1st. For the hawks to actually consider moving him they'd probably want a 1st and a solid RD prospect. He's a leader for the young defenseman on the hawks so for them to give that up they would need an overpay. Now if he requested a trade that price would obviously come down but he seems pretty happy in chicago.

Also brannstrom is a lefty which is the deepest position chicago has.

Hawks likely don't consider trading Murphy for anything less than a 1st or an equivalent high end prospect. Hawks have been awful (by design) for the past two years. Murphy had no shot at putting up any sort of good stats. He has played most of this season w/ Korchinski, and it appears GM Kyle from Chicago and Coach Luke want that same pair together next season as well.

No hate meant for Branny, but the Hawks aren't looking for any more LD. They're loaded at LD. They've already moved former 1st rounder Nolan Allen over to his off side on the right so he has a path to the NHL.

That proposed package from Ottawa has a lot of pieces but nothing that would be very interesting from the Hawks perspective.

I'll respond to both quotes since it's the same subject. Note that I am not trying to argue about Chicago needs as I don't know enough about them, simply trying to gauge value. But thanks for the input, I understand it makes no sense to trade a solid veteran for quantity of pieces you don't really need.

Regarding value, Boucher is worth about a 4th (value keeps going down), Thomson a 7th at most (lost pretty much all his value this season), but Brännström is worth a 2nd/3rd even if I would not trade him like that at all. I would trade Chychrun, keep Brannstrom and invest in a RHD. LD is strong as it is with Chabot, Sanderson, Brannstrom and Kleven. Good thing about Brann is he can play basically everywhere in the lineup outside of Center and Goalie. He played 1 game on the 4th line wing and that was the best game from a Sens 4th line in basically the whole rebuild. When Chabot/Sanderson is injured, he gets more ice/responsibility and does really well. He constantly flashes skill and plays smart 2-way hockey. Of course, he can't handle big forwards abut he's quick and smart. His biggest problem I'd say is that he isn't able to create enough offense with his shot.

So at worst you got two 3rd round picks and two 4th round picks. Hard to find exact comparable trade but I see Brenden Dillon traded in 2021 for two 2nd round picks. I think Brannstrom, Boucher and the picks is a bit more valuable.

But yeah, not the type of trade the Hawks would want/need to make. Sell Murphy for the best quality asset possible or just keep him for now.