Sens and probably no team would do that for one year of Rantanen.

The expectation is a sign and trade for about the same as Pastrnak 8x$11.25M or whoever trades for him would immediately extend for something like 7x$11.5M. No way the Avs can afford his fair value unless the cap skyrockets. Beyond having no depth next year, they'll have trouble signing Makar again.

If Rantanen agreed to the extension before the trade I'd consider that but in no way am I willing to go through a DeBrincat/Chychrun situation again.

Should have no expectation of a sign and trade, they rarely happen. That's the nature of UFAs, they leave, aren't traded. No expectation of receiving assets for an outgoing UFA.
Plus Rantanen has a M NTC, and Sens have will hav cap issue too.

If Rantanen has to move due to cap constraints, I could see Anaheim making a play for him. Strome doesn't have quite the same scoring capability as Baths, but he's got 50-60 points capability with the right line mates as shown in NYR, and Anaheim has other assets that could be offered provided there's a sign and trade.

I'd propose Strome, the EDM 1st, and Zellwegger. Maybe also swap Wood out for a cheaper NHL caliber LW as I have a hard time believing that Mitts signs for only 6

No need trade rantenen. By time he's an UFA. The cap will be 92 million. Rantenen is the big free agent to resign.

Avs decline. Plenty of ways around the cap without moving Mikko.

Sens would accept if the 2025 pick is conditional.
If Rantanen resigns with the sens 2025 pick is transferred
If the 2025 pick is top 10 then the pick becomes a 2027 1st.
If the 2025 pick is forfeited then Colorado receives 2026 1st
If the 2026 1st is in the top 10 2027 pick is transferred

Sorry for you offer but for Rantanen with contract Avs want Zegras and 1st anaheim 2024.

are you insane, no chance in hell OTT trades Bath for Rentanen if he isn't coming with a retention, holy crap that would be worst trade in all of sports history is he leaves in UFA with OTT having spend a top 6 RW under 26 making 5M and 2 firsts for 1 year of a guy.

OTT declines, Rentanen maybe a 100 point player but scoring ain't OTTs problem and with him expected to go into the 11M range Bath 5M is more important to OTT for cap reasons

That doesn’t get close to getting a top 15 player in the league, not even remotely.

Rantanen isn’t going to get moved but the elephant in the room might be Georgiev getting moved, and watching Landeskog skate makes me wonder if he is ever going to play. Moving Rantanen isn’t the answer to any question COL has.

Enjoy whatever it is your smoking.

When they're a cap casualty and you have to shell out record money, you don't get a mega return.

It would start with McTavish and Zell and add from there. Mikko is the 2nd or 3rd best RW in the league and a 50 goal guy. Strom a late 1st and a redundent dman doesnt get it done.

Cap constraints limit return for a pending UFA about to sign a record contract for a winger, whether he's top 3 in the league or not, the base assumption around this ACGM is that you can't afford to keep him and keep the depth needed. At that point you don't have the negotiating power to land McTavish +

So no, it wouldn't start with McTavish, or Leo, or Zegras, or Gauthier, or 3OA, or Mintyukov, because it's not Colorado dealing from a position of strength, it's dealing from a position of necessity.

The whole point is that the Avs CAN keep him and have depth. Therefore any offer needs to be a good one. That ain't it!

No, they really can't, not if Landeskog comes back, and you're kidding yourself if you think Mitts signs for less than 7. The whole reason BUF traded him was because he wanted what Tage got for a contract and they didn't want to give it to him.

You can't gut the defense because the goaltending is barely holding up behind it now, there's no money to be saved in net, they're barely spending 4 mil combined, that leaves the forward core, and it's not exactly like Colorado has the prospect depth to step in and do anything on the third line.

We can talk about a Terry for Rantanen swap, but the excess value between skill wise is getting eaten up by Terry's cost control for the next 6 years, and it's not enough of a delta to solve the problem at the start of next season with being cap compliant, as another ~3 million would need to be shed elsewhere.

Lol thank you for the comedy this morning.

Yes, they simply can. They have to move one contract but it doesn't have to be Rantanen. Therefore if you want Rantanen you have to pay up. Simple. That offer is derisory.

You need a delta greater than 5 million, moving out "one contract" isn't going to get it done, unless that contract is Landeskog, it would take at least two of your 4-5 million contracts and for them to be replaced by ~1 million dollar contracts, at which point, you've stripped out your third line.

Take a minute and make an Avs acgm, you will see it is easy to fit in Rants. Moving on from Wood and Colton is much easier to replace than Mikko. Becomes even easier with recent financial data that the cap could have been 100m this current season. Should be around that 100m mark when Rants needs a deal.

It was always going to be the case that the Avs would have to run with some ELCs and league min contracts and possibly a short roster. It only takes one 4-5 mil contract to do so. So any of Colton, Girard, Lehkonen or Manson.

The entire point this ACGM was making is that you can't keep Rants AND your depth, now you both are saying jetison the depth, which is what OP was trying to avoid.

Yeah, you can drop the third line to keep Rantanen, but then you become the Leafs, too top heavy to win.

LOL! You CAN have depth, you just have to be frugal with what you pay and trust some of the youth.