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Created by: MTLaveragefan

Team: 2024-25 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 19, 2024

Published: Apr. 19, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

If by TD next year, the team is still unable to secure a top 3 position in the division.

Sell off EVERYTHING, even Crosby, Malkin and Letang if you can.

- take a bunch of bad contracts and accumulate a ton of draft capital to try to draft Misa and Mckenna.

- go the MTL, SJS and CHI route - and within 4 years - you'll be back competing. If not, you'll lose these guys to retirement, UFA or a case of Vlasic-sickness.

Don't take that chance, because if you don't money your assets right now - your rebuild will take 10 years like Buffalo and NJD.

I'm not a Pitt fan - so these values are all over the map - some may be VERY overvalued, some may be undervalued...

The point is that with Malkin and Crosby alone - you could fetch 2 first round pick and 2 great prospects equivalent to 4 first round picks.

Letang or karlsson retained can fetch you a huge package (especially for PMD RHD) - Letang at 3M$ and Karlsson at 5M$ is GOLDEN.

TBH - I did do a great job with the TANK - I think this team could still compete lol.

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST		YEARS	CAP HIT
McGroarty, Rutger		3	$950,000
Yager, Brayden		3	$950,000

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Robertson, Nicholas	2	$1,000,000
Bemström, Emil	2	$1,000,000
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier	2	$1,000,000

Trades

PIT

McGroarty, Rutger [Reserve List]
2025 1st round pick (WPG)

Additional Details:

ANY TEAM for a GOOD prospect and a late first.

WPG

Crosby, Sidney ($4,350,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Any team trying to make a big push in the playoff

PIT

Dubois, Pierre-Luc
2025 1st round pick (LAK)

LAK

Malkin, Evgeni

PIT

Anderson, Josh
2025 2nd round pick (MTL)
2025 3rd round pick (MTL)

MTL

Puljujärvi, Jesse

PIT

Knies, Matthew
Niemelä, Topi
Reaves, Ryan
Robertson, Nicholas [RFA Rights]
2026 1st round pick (TOR)

Additional Details:

2027 first round pick

TOR

Bunting, Michael
Letang, Kris ($3,000,000 retained)

PIT

Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
2025 1st round pick (NYI)

NYI

2025 2nd round pick (MTL)

Retained Salary Transactions

Jeff Petry: $1,562,500 (25%)
Sidney Crosby: $4,350,000 (50%)
Kris Letang: $3,000,000 (49.18%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$87,500,000	$83,431,009	$0	$0	$4,068,991

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Knies, Matthew $925,000$925,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Dubois, Pierre-Luc $8,500,000$8,500,000 C NMC UFA - 7	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
Rakell, Rickard $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4	McGroarty, Rutger $950,000$950,000 LW, C RFA	Rust, Bryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 4
Smith, Reilly $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Kotkaniemi, Jesperi $4,820,000$4,820,000 C UFA - 6	Robertson, Nicholas $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW RFA
Bemström, Emil $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, LW RFA	Pageau, Jean-Gabriel $5,000,000$5,000,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Acciari, Noel $2,000,000$2,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 2
		Reaves, Ryan $1,350,000$1,350,000 RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Pettersson, Marcus $4,025,175$4,025,175 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Karlsson, Erik $10,000,000$10,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 3	Jarry, Tristan $5,375,000$5,375,000 G M-NTC UFA - 4
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier $1,000,000$1,000,000 LD RFA	Graves, Ryan $4,500,000$4,500,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 5
Ludvig, John $775,000$775,000 LD RFA - 1	Niemelä, Topi $856,667$856,667 RD RFA - 1
Nieto, Matt $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Apr. 19 at 10:03 a.m.

jonh514

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Yes please from the Habs!

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Apr. 19 at 10:05 a.m.

exo2769

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I agree with your approach. This was the healthiest PIT team in decades, and they didn't make the playoffs for the 2nd straight year. Gotta make tough decisions. Do you want to win OR do you want to stick your head in the sand.

Apr. 19 at 10:09 a.m.

Chuck54

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Personaly i would take this Habs trade but idk if Kent Hughes does

Apr. 19 at 10:21 a.m.

python3504

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wtf is that leafs trade no way lol

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Apr. 19 at 10:21 a.m.

RipNasty

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Crosby will decide where he goes if he goes. And I would guarantee it won't be Winnipeg.

Apr. 19 at 10:21 a.m.

RipNasty

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Also only on capfriendly does TO have to pay more for Bunting and Letang than someone has to pay to get Crosby.

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Apr. 19 at 10:26 a.m.

MTLaveragefan

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Quoting: RipNasty

Also only on capfriendly does TO have to pay more for Bunting and Letang than someone has to pay to get Crosby.

Well Topi, Robertson and Reaves have close to 0 value in my book - below replacements players.

but yeah the deal could be

Knies and 2 first for Bunting and Letang (50% off for 3 years).

Apr. 19 at 10:29 a.m.

MTLaveragefan

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Quoting: RipNasty

Crosby will decide where he goes if he goes. And I would guarantee it won't be Winnipeg.

Well if they have the team to win a cup... he might go.

And at the end of the Day - doesn't have to be Winnipeg. Just a team who can pay a A prospect and a first.

Apr. 19 at 10:35 a.m.

Leafsfan98

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Quoting: MTLaveragefan

Well Topi, Robertson and Reaves have close to 0 value in my book - below replacements players.

but yeah the deal could be

Knies and 2 first for Bunting and Letang (50% off for 3 years).

Robertson has more goals this season thank Bunting did in Carolina... At 1/6th the price

And Topi is nearly NHL ready... and the best defensive prospect in the Leafs system... So, Letang's not worth that, especially at 36

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Apr. 19 at 10:45 a.m.

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ht42

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Quoting: RipNasty

Crosby will decide where he goes if he goes. And I would guarantee it won't be Winnipeg.

Likely Colorade or Montreal....

Apr. 19 at 10:45 a.m.

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MitchJr

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Quoting: RipNasty

Also only on capfriendly does TO have to pay more for Bunting and Letang than someone has to pay to get Crosby.

Quoting: Leafsfan98

Just a Habs fan trolling us; sad but I guess they have nothing else to do 🤷🏻. At least not until the draft 😂

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Apr. 19 at 11:12 a.m.

#12

MTLaveragefan

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Quoting: MitchJr

Just a Habs fan trolling us; sad but I guess they have nothing else to do 🤷🏻. At least not until the draft 😂

TBH, that's a fair analysis

I just hope MTL and TML get to a similar level for a few years - those are alway great game, but it's not AS fun when one of the team is rebuilding.

Your core is approaching it's peak, ours is starting to form - I think 2026-2027 will have epic rivalry games.

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Apr. 19 at 11:19 a.m.

#13

MitchJr

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Quoting: MTLaveragefan

TBH, that's a fair analysis

Leafs vs Habs for Atlantic (maybe with a beat down of Boston by either team on the way) would be epic.
Obviously Bettman is bit I’m not a huge fan of parity - not saying those teams aren’t legit, but no one really cares if small market teams Florida, Carolina or Tampa advance 🤷🏻

Apr. 19 at 11:35 a.m.

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RipNasty

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Quoting: MTLaveragefan

Well Topi, Robertson and Reaves have close to 0 value in my book - below replacements players.

but yeah the deal could be

Knies and 2 first for Bunting and Letang (50% off for 3 years).

Lol you are nuts. Knies is worth way more than Bunting and Letang's contract is terrible. Hard pass. The only guy on Pittsburgh TO would want is Crosby.

Apr. 19 at 11:35 a.m.

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RipNasty

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Quoting: MTLaveragefan

Well if they have the team to win a cup... he might go.

And at the end of the Day - doesn't have to be Winnipeg. Just a team who can pay a A prospect and a first.

He's apparently said he would consider TO and Colorado and that's it.

Apr. 19 at 11:36 a.m.

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RipNasty

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Quoting: ht42

Likely Colorade or Montreal....

Montreal? Get real at this stage in his career he either wants to win a cup or stay in Pittsburgh. Habs fans are something else

Apr. 19 at 11:56 a.m.

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SydBarrett

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Pens block the habs and kings number without a second thought .
The jets deal isn’t happening for many many reasons .
But I definitely can see them entertaining the last three deals

Apr. 19 at 12:08 p.m.

#18

Smitty426

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Petey?

Apr. 19 at 12:12 p.m.

#19

cwhitney29

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this just feels like a troll job. because if thats real, then yikes. but nah, this has to be, 100% a troll job

Apr. 19 at 12:14 p.m.

#20

cwhitney29

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Quoting: Smitty426

Petey?

based on the ask for sid we could give petey away for nothing. so whats the best nothing new jersey has to offer?

Apr. 19 at 12:18 p.m.

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python3504

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Quoting: MTLaveragefan

Well Topi, Robertson and Reaves have close to 0 value in my book - below replacements players.

but yeah the deal could be

Knies and 2 first for Bunting and Letang (50% off for 3 years).

that is still crazy Knies will be better than bunting in a year or 2 and the leafs didnt want to keep bunting they let him walk and who wants letang on a 35+ contract until he is 40 years old. not even close.

Apr. 19 at 12:18 p.m.

#22

Smitty426

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Quoting: cwhitney29

based on the ask for sid we could give petey away for nothing. so whats the best nothing new jersey has to offer?

Well I hate Bahl, so for me, it be him with adds (2025 2nd?). The expectation is Bahl develops into a Petey type. Waiting 4 years for that to maybe happen is not worth it imo

Apr. 19 at 12:33 p.m.

#23

pens1991

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I love when fans of other teams make posts for the Penguins with absolutely zero knowledge. lol

Apr. 19 at 12:44 p.m.

#24

fil97

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this would never happen. in any case add like 5 more first rounders for Sid and two more for geno.

Apr. 19 at 1:07 p.m.

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ht42

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Quoting: RipNasty

Montreal? Get real at this stage in his career he either wants to win a cup or stay in Pittsburgh. Habs fans are something else

Childhood team.

And expect that Crosby will gonna have few seasons before that he will gonna anounce his retirement.

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