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Team: 2024-25 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 23, 2024
Published: Apr. 23, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,000,000
1$950,000
1$950,000
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. Kemell, Joakim
  2. 2024 1st round pick (NSH)
NSH
  1. Konecny, Travis
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7.75x7
2.
PHI
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (MIN)
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (MIN)
Additional Details:
More looking at value than a specific team
3.
PHI
  1. Campbell, Jack
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
  3. 2025 1st round pick (EDM)
  4. 2025 3rd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. 2025 7th round pick (PHI)
4.
PHI
  1. 2025 2nd round pick (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (CBJ)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$73,423,095$245,000$512,500$10,076,905
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,200,000$6,200,000
RW, LW
UFA - 8
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
C
RFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
RW
RFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
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$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RW
RFA - 2
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
RFA
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$825,000$825,000 (Performance Bonus$12,500$12K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$2,375,000$2,375,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 7
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
G
RFA - 2
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$2,700,000$2,700,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$3,275,000$3,275,000
G
UFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000
LD/RD
RFA
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$5,100,000$5,100,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000
LD
RFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 3

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Apr. 23 at 9:34 a.m.
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Still think even after those moves, that they use that cap space. Chandler Stephenson at 2C/Couturier at 3C/Poehling at 4C or a solid vet defenseman at 4ish mil to pair with a kid like OEL, Dumba, etc... (or both)

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They'll buyout one of Atkinson or Petersen, but doubt they have one in minors, so my money is on Petersen buyout and trade Atkinson at 50% for a late round pick, which leaves closer to 13-14mil in cap space
Apr. 23 at 9:53 a.m.
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Quoting: Hammerwise
Still think even after those moves, that they use that cap space. Chandler Stephenson at 2C/Couturier at 3C/Poehling at 4C or a solid vet defenseman at 4ish mil to pair with a kid like OEL, Dumba, etc... (or both)

Sanheim-Drysdale
OEL-York
Zamula-Risto
Seeler

They'll buyout one of Atkinson or Petersen, but doubt they have one in minors, so my money is on Petersen buyout and trade Atkinson at 50% for a late round pick, which leaves closer to 13-14mil in cap space


This is the opposite what they should be doing IMO. Currently they have no solution to getting a 1C and they are going to be in an extremely competitive conference with NJ, Buffalo and Red Wings all being teams that missed and will be looking to get into the playoffs.
Apr. 23 at 9:54 a.m.
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Can't see the Preds going for that; Konecny is very very nice, but the Preds don't have enough quality futures to be able to afford giving them up.
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Apr. 23 at 10:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Roperttos
This is the opposite what they should be doing IMO. Currently they have no solution to getting a 1C and they are going to be in an extremely competitive conference with NJ, Buffalo and Red Wings all being teams that missed and will be looking to get into the playoffs.


Mostly true, but Phily (who lost 2 of their top 4 dmen and their starting goalie) still came within a pt or 2 of the playoffs themselves with largely a team of young guys. While they lack a 1C or a Crosby/Makar in the immediate future, they have a deep pool of young/young-ish guys so counting on NJ or DET or BUF surpassing them isn;t a forgone conclusion.

Adding a good second tier center or defender who has 2-5 good years left is both within their cap and their rebuild.
Apr. 23 at 10:22 a.m.
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Quoting: Hammerwise
Mostly true, but Phily (who lost 2 of their top 4 dmen and their starting goalie) still came within a pt or 2 of the playoffs themselves with largely a team of young guys. While they lack a 1C or a Crosby/Makar in the immediate future, they have a deep pool of young/young-ish guys so counting on NJ or DET or BUF surpassing them isn;t a forgone conclusion.

Adding a good second tier center or defender who has 2-5 good years left is both within their cap and their rebuild.


They have a good amount of young players but they still lack the high end potential which is the issue. They probably aren't making the playoffs in this conference next year, so it's better to just try to get a high pick to get those high potential players, since Michkov probably won't be here for 2 years.
Apr. 23 at 10:39 a.m.
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EDM says no and just buys him out instead.
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Apr. 23 at 10:43 a.m.
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They have a good amount of young players but they still lack the high end potential which is the issue. They probably aren't making the playoffs in this conference next year, so it's better to just try to get a high pick to get those high potential players, since Michkov probably won't be here for 2 years.


Very true, but its not a foregone conclusion that NJD/PIT/WAS/DET/OTT/etc... sort it out and surpass them next yr. They lack high end talent, but foertser, brink, frost, cates, farabee, york, drysdale, errsson, etc, didnt have HUGE years.... could get better. And andrae, tuomaala, barkey, etc... could contribute.

Ultimately the Flyers were 3rd in Metro all yr long even with Hart/Gautheir dramas and injuries, so its a leap to think that those other teams develop/cure their ills and PHI doesn;t.

Besides signing a Stephenson/Dumba at 29 yrs old for less than 5mil and still have 5-8mil in cap space and alot of extra high picks in the next few drafts (as well as expiring cap cows in Petersen/Atkinson) allows some creativity. Maybe PHI doesn;t address 1C this yr, but waits out for Draisatl or another big option.
Apr. 23 at 11:06 a.m.
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EDM says no and just buys him out instead.


I would trade a 1st with Campbell rather than buy him out. But a 1st + 2nd + 3rd? Eh... probably not. 1st + 3rd is likely the highest I'd go.
Apr. 23 at 11:23 a.m.
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EDM probably doesn;t go higher than a 1st and 3rd, but even then I cant see it happening. PHI has cap space but they have Petersen at 5mil, and while they might buy him out, I can;t see them buying him out and then taking on Campbell.

PHI might be tempted but they currently have errson, fedotov, kolosov, petersen, (with Hart as RFA), and a few really high prospects, so for a 1st and 3rd they might be tempted.
Apr. 23 at 11:34 a.m.
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I like konecny but Nashville isnt so close to being a real competitor that they do this. They still would have a big hole at RHD (especially if Carrier walks) and center is iffy with RORs age and Novak as 2C.
Apr. 23 at 11:55 a.m.
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Quoting: Hammerwise
Very true, but its not a foregone conclusion that NJD/PIT/WAS/DET/OTT/etc... sort it out and surpass them next yr. They lack high end talent, but foertser, brink, frost, cates, farabee, york, drysdale, errsson, etc, didnt have HUGE years.... could get better. And andrae, tuomaala, barkey, etc... could contribute.

Ultimately the Flyers were 3rd in Metro all yr long even with Hart/Gautheir dramas and injuries, so its a leap to think that those other teams develop/cure their ills and PHI doesn;t.

Besides signing a Stephenson/Dumba at 29 yrs old for less than 5mil and still have 5-8mil in cap space and alot of extra high picks in the next few drafts (as well as expiring cap cows in Petersen/Atkinson) allows some creativity. Maybe PHI doesn;t address 1C this yr, but waits out for Draisatl or another big option.


Sure, it's not guaranteed that those teams all improve, but if I had to put a bet on it, I would. Also they didn't have any significant injuries to their important players for most of the season untill late January where Tippett missed a bit over 2 weeks and when Konecny missed almost 2 weeks in february/march.

The likelyhood of Flyers getting Draisaitl or anyone 1C caliber through FA is low and there is 0 guarantee that they will even become a UFA's, so putting your hope in solving the 1C that way is foolish. Draisaitl also wouldn't solve the issue long-term since by then he will be 30 and soon 31 after the season starts. In a few years later you will be back in a situation where you don't have a proper 1C anymore.

Also will they have enough cap space to even make it happen? By the time Draisaitl would become a UFA they have to pay TK, York, Foerster and Frost. Then a year later they would have to pay Drysdale and Ersson. It's just not a solid enough plan to rely on.
Apr. 23 at 12:13 p.m.
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Good with everything except Campbell is missing an extra 1st added cause his contract is probably the worst in nhl history lol. And at that point Oilers would just buy him out
 
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