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Realistic offseason

Created by: James102182
Team: 2024-25 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 24, 2024
Published: Apr. 24, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$850,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,200,000
2$900,000
2$900,000
3$1,900,000
3$2,000,000
3$1,000,000
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (BUF)
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (BUF)
2.
PHI
  1. Robertson, Nicholas [RFA Rights]
  2. 2024 5th round pick (NSH)
3.
PHI
  1. 2025 1st round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus ($2,100,000 retained)
  2. 2024 5th round pick (LAK)
4.
PHI
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Broberg, Philip [RFA Rights]
  3. Campbell, Jack
  4. McLeod, Ryan
  5. 2025 1st round pick (EDM)
  6. 2026 3rd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Hathaway, Garnet
  2. Konecny, Travis
  3. Petersen, Cal
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Tk was garbage when games mattered time to go.
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2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$87,500,000$72,045,595$245,000$332,500$15,454,405
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
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$6,200,000$6,200,000
RW, LW
UFA - 8
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
RFA
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
RW
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
C
RFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
RW
RFA
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
RW
RFA - 1
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$787,500$787,500
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 7
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$3,275,000$3,275,000
G
UFA - 2
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
RFA
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
G
RFA - 2
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
LD/RD
RFA
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$2,700,000$2,700,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 4
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$903,333$903,333 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 3

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Apr. 24 at 8:32 p.m.
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Hard No on TK trade.
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Apr. 24 at 8:37 p.m.
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Don't think the EDM trade makes sense from EDM's POV, we need our cheaper young players to fill in roles.
Would imagine we'd pass and just buy out Campbell.
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Apr. 24 at 8:39 p.m.
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Sabres want Cates not Laughton
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Apr. 24 at 8:44 p.m.
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Canucks pass easily. Not giving a 1st for Risto
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Apr. 24 at 8:47 p.m.
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Canucks dont want anything to do with Risto, especially not for a first round pick
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Apr. 24 at 8:52 p.m.
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why are the leafs adding to get a guy who scores goals with 20 more games and significantly more ice time per game?
Apr. 24 at 8:54 p.m.
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Your gonna have to change your title... Vancouver wouldn't even give you a 5th for risto
Apr. 24 at 9:08 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
why are the leafs adding to get a guy who scores goals with 20 more games and significantly more ice time per game?


Frost is a center, had a better PPG, and is better defensively. Not exactly outrageous to say he’s more valuable than Robertson
Apr. 24 at 9:23 p.m.
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These are all terrible
Apr. 24 at 9:24 p.m.
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Quoting: mv21227
Frost is a center, had a better PPG, and is better defensively. Not exactly outrageous to say he’s more valuable than Robertson


Leafs fans think every player they have is McDavid lol. Robertson is barely an NHL player versus a center who has back to back 40 point seasons. U would have to add probably a 2nd minimum for the flyers to even think about it
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Apr. 24 at 9:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Sabres want Cates not Laughton


Sabres fans don’t want to actually pay for either of them so it doesnt matter lol
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Apr. 24 at 9:29 p.m.
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Quoting: GMDannyB
Sabres fans don’t want to actually pay for either of them so it doesnt matter lol


We'd pay for Cates. Laughton is garbage
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Apr. 24 at 9:34 p.m.
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Overpay for Laughton because we aren't being paid to take him. Cates or Couturier I'd be willing to work on.
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Apr. 24 at 9:47 p.m.
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Quoting: mv21227
Frost is a center, had a better PPG, and is better defensively. Not exactly outrageous to say he’s more valuable than Robertson


Robertson has a significantly better g/60 and better p/60 with worse linemates and basically no power play time and doesnt get the ozone starts that Frost does and he isnt significantly worse a defensive player.
It's not outrageous to say Robertson is more valuable than Frost. And that's even before you factor in that Robertson will be much cheaper and have like half the cap hit
Apr. 24 at 9:48 p.m.
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Laughton is an overpaid 3rd line center. As a near cap dump, you’d be lucky to get a third rounder for him. As the others have said he’s not the guy Buffalo would ask about. But there’s a whole lot of wishful thinking in these other trades too.
Apr. 24 at 10:44 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Robertson has a significantly better g/60 and better p/60 with worse linemates and basically no power play time and doesnt get the ozone starts that Frost does and he isnt significantly worse a defensive player.
It's not outrageous to say Robertson is more valuable than Frost. And that's even before you factor in that Robertson will be much cheaper and have like half the cap hit


Robertson is barely an NHL player give it a rest. Frost played with 3rd and 4th liners most of the season and put up 40 points lol give me a break. Not every player on ur team is McDavid
Apr. 24 at 10:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Tjm220
Laughton is an overpaid 3rd line center. As a near cap dump, you’d be lucky to get a third rounder for him. As the others have said he’s not the guy Buffalo would ask about. But there’s a whole lot of wishful thinking in these other trades too.


If Laughton is an overpaid 3rd line center then what is Krebs, who is worse than Laughton?
Apr. 24 at 10:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
We'd pay for Cates. Laughton is garbage


You wouldn’t tho. The Flyers have no reason to move Cates except for any overpay. What are you gonna do trade one of your 1sts for him? It would make no sense and the Flyers have no reason to move him otherwise. You may convince the Flyers to give up Laughton for a 2nd but not Cates. Also Laughton literally had a better year than Cates so it’s funny you all hate Laughton but want Cates. Cates’ ceiling is probably only a slightly better version of Laughton lol.
Apr. 24 at 10:47 p.m.
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Quoting: GMDannyB
If Laughton is an overpaid 3rd line center then what is Krebs, who is worse than Laughton?


A young center who is still developing & paid accordingly
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Apr. 24 at 11:03 p.m.
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Quoting: GMDannyB
You wouldn’t tho. The Flyers have no reason to move Cates except for any overpay. What are you gonna do trade one of your 1sts for him? It would make no sense and the Flyers have no reason to move him otherwise. You may convince the Flyers to give up Laughton for a 2nd but not Cates. Also Laughton literally had a better year than Cates so it’s funny you all hate Laughton but want Cates. Cates’ ceiling is probably only a slightly better version of Laughton lol.


Laughton was literally one of the worst forwards in the league by every advanced metric. The Sabres dont need to make a move with Philly
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Apr. 24 at 11:17 p.m.
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Robertson is barely an NHL player give it a rest. Frost played with 3rd and 4th liners most of the season and put up 40 points lol give me a break. Not every player on ur team is McDavid


Lol, dude, if Robertson isnt an nhl player, neither is frost. Wait, do you think frost is like mcdavid?
Apr. 24 at 11:24 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Lol, dude, if Robertson isnt an nhl player, neither is frost. Wait, do you think frost is like mcdavid?


He has plenty of talent but can’t stay healthy. He hasn’t played a full season for any team in his entire career. Ur best ability is availability. He’s useless when he is hurt half the season at minimum every year. Frost is a low-end 2C/good 3C that Torts doesn’t like so he puts him with line mates that aren’t near his skill level and he still had back to back 40 point years. On any team that would use him properly he could easily push for 60. Both players are products of the teams they are on and players they play with. Toronto inflates Robertson’s numbers and Philly deflates Frost’s numbers. Also centers are way more valuable than wingers and that’s just a fact.
Apr. 25 at 6:18 a.m.
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He has plenty of talent but can’t stay healthy. He hasn’t played a full season for any team in his entire career. Ur best ability is availability. He’s useless when he is hurt half the season at minimum every year. Frost is a low-end 2C/good 3C that Torts doesn’t like so he puts him with line mates that aren’t near his skill level and he still had back to back 40 point years. On any team that would use him properly he could easily push for 60. Both players are products of the teams they are on and players they play with. Toronto inflates Robertson’s numbers and Philly deflates Frost’s numbers. Also centers are way more valuable than wingers and that’s just a fact.


so let me get this straight, Frost gets more ice time, more power play time, better linemates for most of that time, easier zone starts and Robertson's numbers are being inflated? lol
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Apr. 25 at 8:35 a.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
so let me get this straight, Frost gets more ice time, more power play time, better linemates for most of that time, easier zone starts and Robertson's numbers are being inflated? lol


Robertson absolutely plays with better plays lol but sure bud. Centers are simply worth more regardless and guys that have already hit milestones are more valuable than guys ur praying will stay healthy enough to even attempt to hit milestones
Apr. 25 at 8:39 a.m.
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Quoting: GMDannyB
Robertson absolutely plays with better plays lol but sure bud. Centers are simply worth more regardless and guys that have already hit milestones are more valuable than guys ur praying will stay healthy enough to even attempt to hit milestones


Frost's two most common linemates were Konecny and Tippet and has played well over 300 minutes with both or either of them, Robertson's most common linemates were Jarnkrok and domi and he barely got more than 300 minutes of total play with any one.
So yeah, Frost has had significant advantages in every single way. And no, Centers do not automatically make a player worth more than a winger because there are actual other parts of the game than that. Goal scorers are the single most valuable players in the game by far and Robertson is a much much better goal scorer than Frost.
 
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