The most important thing to remember when being a Leafs fan and making an ACGM thread: don't even for a second consider what the other teams might want or need, just think about what you want from them, and what you don't need on the Leafs anymore. You nailed it OP.

Where exactly does this not consider both teams when making trades?

Joshua is worth at least 4.5AAV imo

Hawks decline...1 year of marner is not worth that to the Hawks

You think so? I assumed that the hawks would definitely jump at the option to add a 26 year old 90 point guy to add alongside bedard? Not a hawks fan but does kurashev have that much of an upside that the hawks prefer him over Marner long term? Getting rid of the jones contract wouldn’t be a bad thing either for you guys. A sign and trade would make more sense I’m assuming though

Hawks will have zero interest in a one year Marner rental. Without an extension in place, Hawks won't even make an offer. And the Hawks aren't retaining for six years on Jones either. Kurashev isn't off limits, but this deal as proposed tips too far in the Leafs favor.

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well if he's not gonna concern himself with what the leafs need or want, why would he care about the other teams?

Everywhere! In every single trade.

-Said upthread, but yeah, the Hawks aren't retaining for 6 years on Seth Jones for one year of Marner. You also have to consider that Marner has a full NMC and is entering a contract year - do you think he's going to approve a one year deal to a rebuilding team in advance of his new contract?

-If I'm Minnesota, this isn't getting me to move Gus. They can still run him and MAF next year with Wallstedt getting more development time in the AHL; they really have no depth elsewhere in the org (Hunter Jones put up an .890 SV% in the ECHL this year) and there's nothing here that makes me feel like Bill Guerin is gonna put himself in a position to have to backfill that depth in free agency.

-Gonna assume that the former Coyotes are on Kampf's partial NTC. I don't know how easy he is going to be to move, with that 3x$2.4M left on his contract.

-I can't imagine a team giving up a pick for a guy like Timmins - he's basically gonna sit in the press box for 2/3 of the season no matter where he goes. The best you can hope is someone flips you a similar 13th/14th forward type.

-I'd take this value for Pulock (future 1st/B+ prospect/decent replacement) but I don't know if he waives for the Leafs.