Rossi is available, but not in the way where the Wild are just trying to get rid of him for the sake of getting rid of him. He had a very good rookie season, and in order for the Wild to move him, it would take something that they feel improves the roster long term, or is a better fit from a play-style standpoint.
Per Russo:
What are the chances Marco Rossi gets traded?
Higher than you’d think. If the Wild could trade Rossi for the same level of high-end prospect, but one who’s bigger and faster, there’s a real chance they’d pull the trigger.
For instance, the Wild were interested in Cutter Gauthier before Philadelphia traded his rights to Anaheim. That is the type of trade they might consider for Rossi.
It doesn’t have to be a center, either.
Recently, on a podcast he also mentioned a few other guys as examples of what the Wild might be looking for if they trade him, from Columbus, Marchenko, Sillinger, Johnson. He also stated it would likely be for guys that are in some way on the outs with their current club, whether they don't fit, aren't happy, etc. Obviously most of these guys won't apply, but we also didn't know Gauthier was on his way out until he was.
***This means that they're not looking for your package of lesser parts, and they're not looking for your high cost pending UFA.***
I've taken the liberty of putting together a list of some more guys they could explore.
Keep in mind:
1) If your team/player isn't listed, it's most likely because you have nothing that works
2) Your team/player being listed doesn't mean your team/player is bad or you have nothing of value, it just means you don't have what Minnesota is looking for in this deal
3) Just because your guy is listed, doesn't mean you or your team would actually move him, in fact most of these guys aren't going to be available in real life (In other words you don't need to tell me your guy isn't available, I know)
4) Players listed are not all 1 for 1 swaps, in some cases the Wild add, in some cases your team adds, in some cases it may be a 1 for 1 swap. I'm not focused on finding an actual trade here, just showing examples of candidates I (the Wild) would/could/should go after
Trades
1.
MIN
Cutter Gauthier
Leo Carlsson
Mason McTavish
ANA
Marco Rossi
2.
MIN
Daniil But
Josh Doan
Dylan Guenther
ARI
Marco Rossi
3.
MIN
Jiri Kulich
Dylan Cozens
BUF
Marco Rossi
4.
MIN
Connor Zary
CGY
Marco Rossi
5.
MIN
Calum Ritchie
COL
Marco Rossi
6.
MIN
*Kent Johnson
*Cole Sillinger
*Mirill Marchenko
Yegor Chinakhov
*These three were mentioned specifically by Russo on the podcast as other examples
I know it's not the ideal trade scenario, but what about something like this from Detroit?
Shai Buium + 2024 2nd #47 OA for Rossi.
Good young defenseman with top 4 potential, would be a first round selection in a redraft.
I just don't see us even having a conversation where Kasper or Danielson are involved. I was thinking it would be kind of cool to possibly have both young Austrian's on a line.
There are some guys I know I excluded for various reasons, and I'm sure there are some guys I forgot (probably mostly 22-24 year olds with established spots on a roster), but this should give you a pretty good idea of the type of piece it'll take to get Rossi this summer.
Great list, something I've been preaching the whole time. I don't like many of these trades for the Wild. I understand that Heidt and Yurov are coming so making a move might be smart. I just look at some of these guys and don't see a long term fit. Cozens would be fun with Ek as the other center. Not sure Doan has enough time in the league to make me jump on that one. But everything you posted in terms of what Russo and Smith said is spot on. Should give other fan bases the skinny on the situation!
Great list, something I've been preaching the whole time. I don't like many of these trades for the Wild. I understand that Heidt and Yurov are coming so making a move might be smart. I just look at some of these guys and don't see a long term fit. Cozens would be fun with Ek as the other center. Not sure Doan has enough time in the league to make me jump on that one. But everything you posted in terms of what Russo and Smith said is spot on. Should give other fan bases the skinny on the situation!
Clearly after reading 3 pages, this post did not educate others.
Because there are reports of him being available, and people on this site have been misinterpreting the circumstances under which he's available, and inundating Wild fans with nonstop threads for days.
Congratulations. You've been on this website since 2020 and didn't know that happens with literally every team? Don't act like you have the biggest fish on the market because of the same 5 people making Rossi trades. Anytime some rumour is brought up it's all you see on the site.
I doubt THIS many GM's are salivating at the mere thought of downgrading their roster (with the types players you added) to take a flyer on Rossi.
Congratulations. You've been on this website since 2020 and didn't know that happens with literally every team? Don't act like you have the biggest fish on the market because of the same 5 people making Rossi trades. Anytime some rumour is brought up it's all you see on the site.
I doubt THIS many GM's are salivating at the mere thought of downgrading their roster (with the types players you added) to take a flyer on Rossi.
Found another one who didn't bother reading the thread. Thanks for the bump.
As expected, nobody reads, everyone thinks their prospects are untouchable and suddenly the traded player is awful. If only there was a way to monetize predicting how CF threads would unfold.
I remember being told Fiala wouldn't return jack **** bc MN had no leverage and that everyone's favorite team DEFINITELY didn't have interest.
Congratulations. You've been on this website since 2020 and didn't know that happens with literally every team? Don't act like you have the biggest fish on the market because of the same 5 people making Rossi trades. Anytime some rumour is brought up it's all you see on the site.
I doubt THIS many GM's are salivating at the mere thought of downgrading their roster (with the types players you added) to take a flyer on Rossi.
Taking a flyer on the 2nd most productive rookie in the league? Scored 20 goals on split time between 1c-3c and played with grinders. I don't think that is a flyer
I think the term "available" being used here doesn't really add up, if the only way he's traded is if they get a similar offensive player that his physically bigger (so he'd be worth more) or just an outright better player, that pretty much should fall into the "NOT available" category...
Put in a Habs perspective, Kaiden Guhle is NOT available...but if MIN were to trade Boldy for him, sure let's do it!!! Does that mean he's available?... the answer is still no.
As expected, nobody reads, everyone thinks their prospects are untouchable and suddenly the traded player is awful. If only there was a way to monetize predicting how CF threads would unfold.
I remember being told Fiala wouldn't return jack **** bc MN had no leverage and that everyone's favorite team DEFINITELY didn't have interest.
'I remember being told Fiala wouldn't return jack **** bc MN had no leverage and that everyone's favorite team DEFINITELY didn't have interest."
It was kind of the opposite. Wild fans thought Fiala would return a top 10 pick + blue chip prospect + roster player. Also Wild fans posting armchair GMs of him getting the 2nd overall pick from the Devils.
Fans of other teams said they'd get a 1st + solid prospect, but won't get a top 10 pick. They were pretty spot on with his value since we already had plenty examples of other RFAs getting traded to look at.
Seems like Wild fans are back on the kool aid with Rossi.
Not like Cutter Gauthier. He would've been traded for Cutter if that was the case.
Flyers obviously found a 2nd + Drysdale package better than Rossi+, which tells me his value isn't that great.
Flyers also thought Ristolainen was worth trading a 14th and a 39th overall pick for a few years ago, it's not like teams don't get it wrong.
But again, you misunderstand, like everyone else. The point isn't that Rossi is available and these are the types of players it'll take to get him, it's that Rossi is only available if he could return this type of player. There's a massive, important, distinct difference there.
Flyers also thought Ristolainen was worth trading a 14th and a 39th overall pick for a few years ago, it's not like teams don't get it wrong.
But again, you misunderstand, like everyone else. The point isn't that Rossi is available and these are the types of players it'll take to get him, it's that Rossi is only available if he could return this type of player. There's a massive, important, distinct difference there.
"Flyers also thought Ristolainen was worth trading a 14th and a 39th overall pick for a few years ago, it's not like teams don't get it wrong."
What does this even mean? Nobody is talking about whether trades worked out. We're talking about how other teams value certain player. Risto was still valued highly by many teams because of his size. They weren't the only team interested. On the flip side the Flyers valued a smaller injury prone RD over Rossi.
Also completely different Flyers GMs made those trades
" it's that Rossi is only available if he could return this type of player." Your type of player doesn't make any sense though. Since they are all wildly different.
"Flyers also thought Ristolainen was worth trading a 14th and a 39th overall pick for a few years ago, it's not like teams don't get it wrong."
What does this even mean? Nobody is talking about whether trades worked out. We're talking about how other teams value certain player. Risto was still valued highly by many teams because of his size. They weren't the only team interested. On the flip side the Flyers valued a smaller injury prone RD over Rossi.
Also completely different Flyers GMs made those trades
" it's that Rossi is only available if he could return this type of player." Your type of player doesn't make any sense though. Since they are all wildly different.
It means just because one team didn't want Rossi doesn't mean he has no value to another team, and they could end up looking foolish for passing on Rossi to get Drysdale.
They're wildly different there's a range of different player types and values that could work. That should be evident and go without saying.
'I remember being told Fiala wouldn't return jack **** bc MN had no leverage and that everyone's favorite team DEFINITELY didn't have interest."
It was kind of the opposite. Wild fans thought Fiala would return a top 10 pick + blue chip prospect + roster player. Also Wild fans posting armchair GMs of him getting the 2nd overall pick from the Devils.
Fans of other teams said they'd get a 1st + solid prospect, but won't get a top 10 pick. They were pretty spot on with his value since we already had plenty examples of other RFAs getting traded to look at.
Seems like Wild fans are back on the kool aid with Rossi.
I can't control what other people post, but that's revisionist history from my experience. Here are the receipts.
All these are from 2021 really early into his career season. You literally have armchair GMs trading him for top 10 picks + Ridley Grieg / Roby Jarventie from the summer right before he got traded lol.
All these are from 2021 really early into his career season. You literally have armchair GMs trading him for top 10 picks + Ridley Grieg / Roby Jarventie from the summer right before he got traded lol.
It's Greig and a 2nd before Greig played a game. If you think that's an overpay relative to 19th OA and Faber (the ACTUAL return), then you're just being willfully dense.
All of those are pretty much on par with the real return plus/minus a bit.
Revisionist history.
edit - well to be clear, they're all signficantly under the actual return now that Faber has broken out. But at the time, he was that tier of prospect.
It's Greig and a 2nd before Greig played a game. If you think that's an overpay relative to 19th OA and Faber (the ACTUAL return), then you're just being willfully dense.
All of those are pretty much on par with the real return plus/minus a bit.
Revisionist history.
edit - well to be clear, they're all signficantly under the actual return now that Faber has broken out. But at the time, he was that tier of prospect.
Did you even read what I said? You are being dishonest using armchair GMs from way before the trade happened before Fiala had his great season.
These were your armchair GMs in the off season before he got traded.
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