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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 29, 2020 at 11:25 p.m.
Thread: Based on an idea I saw
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CaptainFlynnt</b></div><div>Also, not saying guys wont take discounts but Labanc was an idiot for what he did. He had a 56 pt season and signed a $1M contract. Now he had a 33 pt season, while being a -33.

He has yet to sign a new deal, but I guarantee he could have got more last year than he will now. He has lost a ton of money from that decision.</div></div>

Oh 150% I agree with you on that one. That backfired. He was trying to be a “team player” and good for him, but now he’ll just get paid less on his next contract. Being a team guy costed him a lot of money and his team still sucks. That’s a tough one. At least with Petterson, Pittsburgh still put together A competitive roster, he had a good season, and he still got paid. It can work both ways.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 28, 2020 at 6:36 p.m.
Thread: Sergachev Offersheet C
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CaptainFlynnt</b></div><div>To be honest I'm not sure either, but Sergachev has worked his way up TB's blueline to being their 2nd best D after Hedman. You look at Hedman, probably the best Dman in the NHL, and then you look at where he was at 21 yrs old vs where Sergachev is, and Sergachev is a pretty promising player.

The problem is you're gonna have to overpay for him and likely give him 5 yrs to where he will be a UFA, so is it really worth it? If you can resign him I guess it is, or you could flip him and get your assets back. Either way adding a player like Sergachev would be amazing.

Out of curiosity what other FA's would you want MTL to go for @ $8.45M? To me, TB is in the worst situation in the NHL cap wise right now, so I don't see how any other player could be acquired easier.</div></div>

My concern is how much is Serg a product of the team he plays on thus far? While he is by no means NOT someone I wouldn't want and he definitely talented, has he really earned the Subban treatment just yet? I don't think so. I feel if you try to get him at a cap that is above what TB can realistically can get, maybe 6M fine but going higher than that seems premature. Also for the comparison between Hedman, I mean yeah he might have taken longer to turn into the stud he is now but i don't necessarily think what Serg has achieved up to now is indication he'll be what Hedman is now.

I dunno, its tough. I feel Serg is an offensive dman who produces points but on the defensive side isn't as strong and if you are paying someone that much you need to get that defensive acumen also.

What about Vince Dunn? He certainly won't cost as much. Or wait till next year and see what you got first in Romanov and if you still need someone, check the RFA's next year.....Dahlin, Heiskanen, Hughes, Sanheim, etc

Either way, i would be glad to get Sergachev back anywhere between 5-6M but if you go into the 8.5M stratosphere, you are opening him up to some harsh criticism that i don't think he'll be up to the task for. The jump from TB to MTL is steep. Plus everything that happened with him and Weber last game, his remarks about Montreal and this management...... he's not being asked to give up millions of dollars for ever. Eventually TB will have the cap space to resign him to a proper contract and reward him like they've done with all their players. If its me, Im ok with taking a two year 3M contract in TB. Then renegotiate in two years when TB has had time to make more cap space.

Habs OS to Aho was in the right direction to target. He was already Carolina's top player and worthy of a huge over payment. Sergachev is good but im not convinced he has earned it yet. Throwing the world at someone who hasn't earned it yet IMO not only is unwise but creates problems in the dressing room. Throw that on top of all the other aspects of why I don't think it will work and I feel he is not the right target.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 28, 2020 at 12:57 a.m.
Thread: WPG what about moving down
Has a team ever traded out of the 1st round (1-25ish) where what they got back was just a combination of assets that together resembled equal value? I don't think so but If someone whats to do the research Im curious.

The value is probably fair but I kind of equate the analogy to having four quarters or one dollar coin. They equal the same but everyone prefers the dollar coin. Its the same here to a certain extent. There is a value in simply "having" a 1st round pick. Fans get excited for 1st rounders. It hype is higher.

There are better odds of getting a good player with the three 2nd rounders and Mete than there are with the 1st rounder but everyone loves their shiny new toy.

Also there is the factor of negotiation involved. If you are the ones trying to move up into the 1st, the value is inherently higher than someone trying to trade a 1st for multiple 2nds. So you also need to overpay just to convince the other team just to let go of their shiny new toy more than you have to convince a team to trade up.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 26, 2020 at 2:41 p.m.
Thread: Realistic 2020-21
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OkBoomer</b></div><div>Suzuki is a natural center who had amazing chemistry with Caufield at the development camp. Do your research. If you want them to play together, Zuks will need to be at center. He needs to start learning to play center in the top 6. Domi will be just ok at wing. If you have a problem with too many centers, you really shouldn't be. This is one of the best problems to have.</div></div>

Do my research? Maybe you should reread what I said. I WANT Suzuki as center....

If you agree Domi won't be as effective at wing as at center, then now is the best time to move him, while he's regarded as a center around the league and given what he showed last year when moved to the wing, playing him on the wing is not ideal.

Yes having too many "good" centers is a problem because unlike this fantasy world where you can just place everyone where you want and they are happy to do it, NHL players have ego's, they have expectations and demands. Its all great and dandy to have depth but at the same time you need to give them every opportunity to advance and also play their desired position.

Regardless, if you are gonna turn a cordial conversation with differing opinions into a "I know more about hockey than you" don't bother responding. Its ok to have a different opinion and my opinion is no less valid than yours.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 25, 2020 at 3:58 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 25, 2020 at 12:57 p.m.
Thread: Realistic 2020-21
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>Nice post. While I don't agree with some it, it's far from bad in any way.

My only question is: Is it enough and Is this team so different from the one that's missed the playoffs the past 3 years? IMO it isn't. So if the goal is to try and make the playoffs again, then I think it falls short yet again. All it takes is a couple injuries yet again and the team will be out of it.

Ultimately though this looks super realistic and I would say you nailed what I believe MB will do this year to a tee. Good job!

Edit: I also think if you do sign Domi and Danault, you have to look at trading KK now. Not because he's bad or anything but this team has too many centers at this point that its time to start using that depth to get better players at other positions of need. If you hold onto assets too long they'll depreciate their value. KK on a ELC still along with a pick and a roster player like Lehkonen should get us a very good player.

Also Edit: Some of those pending UFA resignings are just too low. Danault, Tatar, Gallagher will all get north of 6M easily. Gally is looking at 7M and its not even breaking a sweat. Danault is getting 6M minimum and Tatar at 6M on the dot is about right, maybe slightly more. It would be nice if they took hometown discounts but some of these aren't discounts they are pure lowball offers. They will be higher I guarantee it.</div></div>

I disagree. In fact, I'm pretty sure Gally will take a discount for us to sign some other players. He obviously knows his value but is the ultimate team player. He is the heart and soul of the team and will understand it if Bergevin asks him to maybe take just below 6. I can also see Danault taking a discount because MTL is where he's from, he feels comfortable, his wife is from around here, his family lives in Quebec, he is getting #1 minutes where he wouldn't anywhere else. He is in the perfect situation for himself and is striving. I could definitely see both of them taking one for the team like MacKinnon. As for Tatar and Petry, I think they will ask for more money but Petry is probably more inclined to stay than Tatar.
Trading KK rn is maybe the worst thing to do. Do you remember when we traded Sergachev for Drouin? It's so much better to show the fans that we are able to trust the development of the players. KK's value is also at an all time low. I just don't see any reason to trade him.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 24, 2020 at 6:06 p.m.
Thread: Flat Cap No CBO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CaptainFlynnt</b></div><div>I personally wouldn't trade Mete for anything less. How many 2nd round picks make the NHL? How many 2nd round picks have 3 NHL seasons as a defenseman by age 21? I would want an early 2nd at least if I was trading him.

Mete has a lot of similarities to Jared Spurgeon.</div></div>

I completely respect your stance on that. When you look at Detroit's defense Dekeyser is a defensive defenseman and so is Seider from what I've seen 22 points in 49 games in the AHL is outside the top 50 among defensemen. I really like Lindstrom he is very good defensively but you can't expect much more than 10-15 points a season from him. Now Hornek is a true 2 way defenseman and I think is as well but he is a couple years away from the NHL. Daley and Cholowski can both score but can they play defense well enough to be anything more than a 3rd pair or a power play specialist with Cholowski. That's why I think if Detroit is going to give up a 2nd for a defenseman he has to have more of an offensive up side than Mete has. But as I said before that is just my opinion.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 23, 2020 at 2:29 p.m.
Thread: Dont CBO Price and Weber
Lol Price and Weber will not be bought out. Any suggestion comes from people who think they can predict the future.

Montreal is very unique and fans of other teams don't quite understand the Habs situation. They look at the roster and project their cities circumstance on it, because that's what they know and most teams are similar that way. It really doesn't work completely the same way in Montreal.

Montreal has never been and will never be the premier destination for UFAs. Language, taxes, weather, fan pressure, etc etc etc. Grooming your own talent takes years and to make matters worse, Habs haven't been great at developing talent neither. Simply put, Habs have a hard time reaching the cap ceiling, even they wanted to. The only time they ever came close was when they knew they had a good team and wanted to add some good players through free agency and completely overpaid to ensure they could get the players.

The Habs will never get to a point where they'll not be able to afford a player they want because they have no cap space due to guys like Weber and Price costing too much. If it was New York or Dallas or San Jose or something, that's a different story but for Montreal the odds are incredibly low of that being the case.

Not to mention that there are a plethora of ways of deal with big contracts, nearing the end of their term like Price and Webers. If ever the Habs desperately need cap space fast for X reasons, they'll deal with it at that time. Its important to make the distinction between being overpaid and being a "cap dump". Price and Weber are simply overpaid but they are still good players.

If the Habs CBO Price and Weber, they'll be out of their top dman and their #1 goalie. That's not what CBO's are for. They're for the players with big contracts that no longer have a place on the team. We're not talking about guys like Lucic or Ericksson or Ladd etc where the teams would rather just not have those players on the team anymore if they had a choice, regardless of cap hit.

So no one has to worry about Price and Weber's contracts when they are in their late 30's....... they won't hinder the Habs from being a better team than they'd be without them. If ever it gets to the point where Price is not even good enough to be backup goalie and Weber can't even skate anymore and the Habs need cap space, they'll figure it out.

CBO'ing both of them now would be like giving away your 3 year old car because in 10 years the car will be scrap...... deal with the scrap yard when the car is compete scrap. Not when its still running perfectly and looks good but has a couple bumps and scratches.