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Armchair-GM
Mar. 22, 2019 at 5:26 p.m.
Thread:
Sadly
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>arafay</b></div><div>I think that is what it takes for 8 years. Don’t forget he still is one of the best goal scorers in the league</div></div>
He's only 18th in G/60 and 78th in P/60 at 5v5 since coming into the league, although 3rd in G/60 in all situations, but he gets a lot more PP time than the average player.
He's also a winger without arbitration, and UFA wingers like Kucherov and Mark Stone are only making $9.5M despite being better players, and having the ability to leave and negotiate with other teams.
If you look at some of his comparables Tarasenko and Kane are probably the closest and they only made 10.27% and 11.09% of the cap respectively. I think he makes somewhere in the middle at best, which on an $83M cap is about $9M.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 21, 2019 at 5:59 p.m.
Thread:
Sadly
With the year Laine's having I'm not so sure he commands $10M
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 21, 2019 at 3:42 p.m.
Thread:
Kapanen for Pesce
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pennerJ</b></div><div>At 3.8 Toronto can't match, not if they're signing Johnsson at least. They would have to get rid of Brown, Hyman, Zaitsev with no returning cap and still they wouldn't have enough to fill out the rest of their roster.</div></div>
This deal could be made before July 1st so offer sheets would not yet be in play, and if you wait till July 1st there's no guarantee that Kapanen will even accept the offer sheet or that another team may offer a competing offer sheet.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 21, 2019 at 3:40 p.m.
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Kapanen for Pesce
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dzad96</b></div><div>Just want your opinion. Don't you think it would be better to trade Nylander for Pesce rather than Kapanen? purely for cap savings. Also I'd almost make an argument Kapanen is the better player.</div></div>
IMO Nylander is a much better player. I think from what we've seen of Kapy playing with Matthews, he is very good, but Nylander is much better at gaining the zone and keeping the cycle going for Matthews. The one area I would miss Kapanen is on the PK, but I think that you can essentially play anyone on the PK as long as they can skate and buy into the system.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 19, 2019 at 11:24 p.m.
Thread:
The Reality of Marners asking price vs the Leafs
Tavares did take a discount to play here, Toronto offered him less than the other teams he interviewed with.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 17, 2019 at 11:07 p.m.
Thread:
its about to get rough is Dubas too young and inexperienced help me out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangles</b></div><div>Who are you claiming is better?</div></div>
Mittelstadt suuuuuuuuux
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 17, 2019 at 11:06 p.m.
Thread:
its about to get rough is Dubas too young and inexperienced help me out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hackadart</b></div><div>I hope Liljegren makes it opening day next year, Sandin could possible too but it might be best for him to play in the A a little while longer</div></div>
Sandin's been having a better year than Liljgren from what I've seen
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 17, 2019 at 11:04 p.m.
Thread:
Beefarino
Not a huge fan of any of these trades or the Myers signing. I think it makes the team worse, and doesn't help the cap problems as there's no room for extras, and you've gotta re-sign half of these players again next year anyways
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 17, 2019 at 11:00 p.m.
Thread:
Babcock tries one last time before he is fired
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>arafay</b></div><div>Its not Babcock's fault
The defense on this team is Abysmal.
I suggest:
Reilly - Zaitsev
Gardiner - Muzzin
Dermott - Hainsey/OZ
The biggest issue is Hainsey playing on that top pair. Reilly needs a physical defensemen who can get the puck loose. That describes everything Hainsey is not. Zaitsev should be fine on top pair. Gardiner needs to be more physical to be decent in his own zone. Playing with muzzin should improve that. Dermott - Hainsey/OZ is self explanatory
Honestly, I do not think even that will fix it. The leafs just lack in their own zone. the only forwards who backcheck are Tavares, Marner, Marleau and Nylander. If the Defence pinches and the puck gets by them, the leafs are exposed. Other teams that are extremely effective in all ends are the Jets, Lightning, Sharks, and Nashville. If you watch closely, every forward backchecks hard. The leafs just lack that eve though Babcock has been trying to get them to do exactly that all year</div></div>
Rielly-Zaitsev was pretty garbage when they were a pair before.
I really don't think the D is that bad, a top 4 of Rielly, Gardiner, Muzzin, and Dermott is better than most teams in the league. IMO the problem is when Zaitsev and Hainsey get more minutes than most of these guys, or when they're used in a "shut-down role".
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 17, 2019 at 10:55 p.m.
Thread:
Toronto isnt working right now how about these lines
I like the Tavares and Matthews line how they are now, and I think the Kadri line will be fine once Kapy comes back. But I did really like your D pairs, Gardiner Rielly has worked so well in the past, idk why we haven't seen more of it. Too bad we'll probably never see it again with Jake's back injury :(
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 16, 2019 at 6:41 p.m.
Thread:
Full Leafs Roster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonesryan</b></div><div>Demelo is a #2 on a ****ty Ottawa team. Realistically, on a good team he's a 5-6 guy at best. Zaitsev has much more offence to his game to allow him to be higher in the lineup and a more important part to a lineup. On Ottawa, Zaitsev would probably pick up between 30-40 points if not 45 while giving you average defence. Demelo is an average defender that will give you 20 points. Zaitsev is a pretty good upgrade over Demelo</div></div>
Strong disagree here, Zaitsev has had less pts/game than Demelo in each of his last 2 seasons while playing significantly more minutes per game. If you're taking Z over Demelo, the arguments gotta be defense.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 16, 2019 at 5:47 p.m.
Thread:
Full Leafs Roster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>shmoeman</b></div><div>Demelo is better than Zaitzev, doesnt really make sense for the Sens if they're only getting back a 3rd and a meh prospect. I get that they have to get to the cap floor but they can do that in more beneficial ways</div></div>
While I probably agree Demelo > Zaitsev, It will take time for the Sens to be competitive and by the time they do, Demelo may have walked in free agency or be less effective than he is now. The 3rd will be more useful to them when they're ready to win. And this deal doesn't really help them get to the cap floor, as you'll be taking Gaborik's contract anyways. Ottawa would probably rather pay to have a player play for them, than to have a player on IR.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 16, 2019 at 5:35 p.m.
Thread:
Full Leafs Roster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonesryan</b></div><div>That Ottawa deal is bad for the Leafs cause Toronto won't be giving up 2 roster players to get Pesce.
The basis of the Sens deal is there, but straight up that doesn't do much for Toronto. Leafs are actually helping the Sens more than Ottawa helps them because Melynk is so cheap.
To Ottawa:
Zaitsev
TOR 2020 3rd round pick
C+ or B- prospect (I've suggested Pontus Holmberg)
To Toronto:
Gaborik's contract (goes on LTIR and gets his on island)
Dylan Demelo
If Melnyk wasn't so cheap, I could see Ottawa not having to add anything in, but the fact that he doesn't wanna pay a guy to not do anything for him gives the Leafs leverage even though they have the cap issues. That leverage being: any team can take Zaitsev for a reduced price, not many teams have the financial flexibility to pay a guy to not play for them. Toronto is one of them. Advantage Leafs.
Pesce for Kapanen alone is almost fair in reality (despite what some other users on here say), Toronto maybe adds a 2nd in it to get it done and can ship Brown elsewhere to get more assets.
As for the signings, Kapanen is reasonable, Johnsson I think you're in the right ballpark but might be different term and a bit more money. Marner you're off by probably about $1M if you're gonna do 6 years, he'll get closer to Matthews AAV if his term goes longer than Matthews. Best idea is to bridge him until the cap opens up.
AND DEAR GOD DO NOT BRING MARINCIN BACK.... PLEASE!</div></div>
While I do like Demelo, I don't know how much he really moves the needle for the leafs, I think I'd rather just keep the 3rd, however I agree that that's pretty fair
For Kapy and johnsson I looked at a few comparables who got 2-4 year deals as UFAs after similar production, namely Kase, Pacioretty, Ritchie, Wood, Marcus Foligno, Niederreiter, Bjorkstrand, Tatar, Baertshi, Mantha, Hyman, Brown, Roussell, Dzingel and found that $3.1M/year was pretty fair
As for Marner given that Stone and Kucherov are UFAs with greater negotiating leverage and are flat out better players, and they took $9.5M I think that at the end of the day it will come down to around here.
As for Marincin I don't mind him nearly as much as others lol, but I just want him as like an 8th defenseman, and will only play if 2+ are injured, realistically you could sign any UFA there, like maybe Chris Wideman? I just thought I'd keep him in that spot as a familiar face
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 16, 2019 at 5:23 p.m.
Thread:
Minnesota fans would you do this trade
Idk if it's necessarily the best deal for Minnesota, however given the direction they're trending they may want to go younger and kind of retool, so this could make sense for them, and be a deal that they realistically consider.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 16, 2019 at 5:21 p.m.
Thread:
Minnesota fans would you do this trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonesryan</b></div><div>Ristolainen is a right handed Jake Gardiner.. both very good dman.
Nylander is still a prospect, he could turn out either way. But he's highly touted for a reason. He has tons of skill and creativity to be at least a top 9 guy. More likely a middle 6 guy which are very useful.
Picks don't make a difference? LOL. this proves you know nothing.</div></div>
IMO Ristolainen is much worse defensively than Jake Gardiner and Spurgeon
Spurgeon >= Gardiner >>> Ristolainen
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 12, 2019 at 12:03 a.m.
Thread:
its time
Can't tell if this is serious or not
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 11, 2019 at 3:10 p.m.
Thread:
Kapanen for Pesce
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juice</b></div><div>This thread is amusing. Two sides on very opposite ends of the spectrum and I think I disagree with literally every post on here.
For starters...take any comment that says "Toronto would take this...or Carolina would/wouldn't" and throw it right in the trash. It's all meaningless banter unless you guys are in direct conversation with Kyle or Don.
When we're discussing the three guys here...Nylander, Pesce and Kapanen....spouting off that one is way more valuable that the other and claiming to be "right" can also get tossed right in the trash. Those are subjective opinions. A three are great players...but all three are very different players who have similar type roles (ie. probably valued very similarly) on their respective teams.
Nylander....is not overpaid at $6.9...at least not right now. There's a chance he becomes one of the biggest bargains for the leafs as of next year...depends on how he continues to develop. But a guy that puts up 60pts in his first two seasons and is 22yrs old is a very valuable asset. More importantly, I'll gladly wager that he stays a Leaf for the next 3 years. Has nothing to do with a Leaf bias of him being super valuable...it comes from the belief that the Leafs committed to him and view him as part of the core. IMO, he hasn't been one of the best leafs the past month...but it's obvious his legs are back. He's playing 3rd line centre with Brown and Marleau...not slouches...but not premier finishers either. I personally wouldn't trade him for Pesce straight up unless it was done under the premise that they needed to shave cap dollars
Kapanen....his value has sky rocketed. For me, him, Marner and Tavares have been the 3 most consistent leafs night in and night out. He's creating offence almost every time he's on the ice. Where Nylander excels at possession and stickhandling, Kapanen uses his skating to create opportunities. He's easily a top 6 forward and can slide into a 1RW role with relative ease while also being a dangerous penalty killer. I wouldn't want to lose Kapanen from the lineup but not sure how much $$ he's going to be asking for and if it'll fit.
For either Leaf, they will be subject to scrutiny and the question will be...how much of their output can be attributed to their linemates?
Pesce...IMO he is a top shut-down D-man. But that's about it. I'm trying to find a comparable to him...guys that stifle the opposition and can play 20min a night doing so, but can barely break 20 points a season. If you look at the way he suppressed passes to the slot, high scoring chances, etc...he ranks up there with the best in the league....but any guys in a similar category to him put up at least double the offense so it's hard to put a value on him. Realistically, strictly defensive D-men don't get the same love that a lesser 2-way d-man does....IMO he's the perfect pairing beside an offensive d-man either on the first or second pair.
To say who would fetch who is not possible. Don Waddell is typically stingy with his assets so one can imagine that he'd want more than just Kapanen. We're not really sure yet how aggressive a GM Dubas will be...but his comments prior to the deadline that 'we are not trading Kapanen' suggested to me that he WAS okay to move him, but wanted his value in a trade to be higher than other GM's were suggesting.
IMO a lot will come down to 2 things.
1. How each team performs in the playoffs (assuming Carolina gets in, which I think they do). If the leafs get beat by bad D and/or the Hurricanes struggle to score, it may loosen the purse strings for that GM. They match up well as trade partners given the surplus of offence for Toronto and defence for Carolina...but neither side HAS to make a trade...and so I think that's why neither side felt the urge to pull the trigger yet. We'll see if that changes.
In the meantime, I'll continue to believe that any disrespectful arguing involving these 3 guys and debating which side would or wouldn't need to add as being completely trash because it's subjective and will be based on factors many of us are not privy to</div></div>
This may be the only level-headed, reasonable post in this entire thread
I did not think this would start such a massive flame war on a post that didn't even involve Nylander lol
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 10, 2019 at 11:44 p.m.
Thread:
Kapanen for Pesce
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>But if the Leafs have LTIR or Ottawa holds the LTIR there is no difference to the cap.</div></div>
There won't be a difference to the cap, however Ottawa still owes him real money, and since the leafs are a wealthier franchise, and the Senators are trying to cut costs while they rebuild, they would probably want to get rid of the real money they owe players who aren't going to play. Similar to when the leafs traded David Clarkson for Nathan Horton :)
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 10, 2019 at 11:34 p.m.
Thread:
Kapanen for Pesce
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NickC1988</b></div><div>By that logic, Nylander can score 30 goals so why not Pesce for Nylander? Oh right, cause Toronto fans think he's their 3rd best forward, when in reality, he's 4th or 5th.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NickC1988</b></div><div>Agree 100%. Nylander for Pesce fills needs for both teams, and it would make both teams better in the long term. Carolina has a surplus of defensemen, and Toronto has a surplus of top 6 forwards. This move makes both teams more balanced.</div></div>
"Nylander is basically the same calibre player as Kapanen, but Kapanen for Pesce is super unfair and Nylander for Pesce is spot on"
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 8, 2019 at 12:37 a.m.
Thread:
TOR with STL and CAR
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>As a Leaf fan, I look at the cap for next year, and the reality is some big cap is going to have to be traded for non NHL cap...aka, futures.
I would rather keep Kapanen than trade for Hamilton, but something along the lines of that Nylander trade could be a reality in the summer.</div></div>
I think the big cap that is a little more expendable would be Brown and Zaitsev
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 7, 2019 at 6:10 p.m.
Thread:
Nylander
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>capsin9</b></div><div>Are you aware who nylander is? He’s like mats sundin! But better way better. 16 points for nylander easily translates to 106!for Kucherov.
I’m being a jerk but yeah leaf fans love Nylander and glorify him. No clue why. But i agree with you paraykos value is much higher</div></div>
It's cuz he's good
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 7, 2019 at 5:18 p.m.
Thread:
Mac Attack
I doubt Hollowell goes straight up to the NHL, probably spends a year or 2 in the AHL first
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 7, 2019 at 5:15 p.m.
Thread:
TOR with STL and CAR
As a leafs fan I wouldn't be happy sending Nylander away for a bunch of maybes
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 7, 2019 at 5:13 p.m.
Thread:
Nylander
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>And any deal for parayko would have to include a heck of a lot more than Nylander</div></div>
Well then I guess Nylander will remain a leaf :\
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 6, 2019 at 5:22 p.m.
Thread:
If we trade Kapanen Brown Z can we keep Gards
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div>He’s the second best D your franchise has had in the last decade. Logical leaf fans see the value in gardiner. The issue is; the future contract and he’s a left hand shot. Ideally leafs would target a RHD this offseason as your right side is very weak, but I can promise you that a leafs D with gardiner is a hell of a lot better than a leafs D without gardiner</div></div>
I used to be very opposed to trading Kapanen, but given how good Moore and Bracco have looked, and with acquiring Petan I think it may make sense to give them bigger roles and look for a better D. I wanted to explore this option first, but it doesn't look very realistic. I think the more probable solution would be to acquire a relatively young defence man with a good contract like Miller or Pesce.
That or perhaps a D-man coming off an ELC that has already proved they can play in the NHL, but I'm not sure who that could be
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