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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 1 at 3:07 p.m.
Thread: Kyle Dubas Would Be A G for this
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>python3504</b></div><div>i never understood why players dont do this more, say sid next season says ill do the same thing they would get a kings ransom for him and they would still have him.</div></div>

They don't do it because of the risks involved. If any word leaks out that a player has this kind of agreement, his value is completely tanked and no one is going to trade anything of value for him. Say Guentzel did something like this and word leaked, other GM's will know he's not signing with their team and would be a pure rental, so you're probably only gonna get like a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him maximum. Under the table contract agreements also run the risk of the league finding you guilty of tampering and punishing you for it with major fines, loss of draft picks, and potential voiding of the signing all together. It's a very risking play as one slip of the tongue can completely derail the plan and leave you 5 steps backwards instead of forwards.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 29 at 6:40 p.m.
Thread: We could easily beat the Kotkaniemi and Necas offer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>theleano1</b></div><div>I agree do we know the actual package that was offered? I don't think we do but I could be wrong, that seems really low for me as well, that's a part of the reason I don't think there was actually any serious thought put into it outside of it being a backup plan</div></div>

To me it sounds like it was mostly just a situation where Carolina called and Allvin basically used trade talks with them as leverage to force a decision out of Petey. Gave him the ultimatum of you're either gonna extend/commit to extending, or you wont be wearing a Canucks jersey by the end of the year. Basically just wanted to use the leverage of a potential trade to force Petey's hand by taking some control instead of letting him hold all the cards.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 29 at 6:31 p.m.
Thread: Just messin around
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sagecoll</b></div><div>Yeah it's interesting because a lot of the reporting basically was that the money is on the table but Petey was pretty meh about it. Not having to do with term/$$, but more about being stuck in Vancouver. Which I get. But hopefully for their sake, they can get it done.</div></div>

Problem for Petey wasn't being stuck in Vancouver, there were never reports that he didn't want to be here. Reports were that he wanted to play for a winning team, hence he didn't want to sign an extension at that point since in the offseason, the Canucks didn't look poised to be a winning team based on them being a lottery team the two years prior. No one expected the Canucks to come out and be the 1st place team in the league coming up to the TDL, but now they are and they are clearly a team that is winning and ready to compete. Petey also said he didn't want to talk extension during the season as he wanted to focus purely on hockey and didn't want the distractions of contract talks (he also did the same thing the last time he was an RFA, didn't begin negotiations until after the season ended and offseason began). Now he knows the team is a winning team and ready to compete, hence why he'd have the change of mind to want to work out an extension in season. It was also just reported by Friedman that the other big reason for his change of heart is that he knows teams have been calling the Canucks on him, and the Canucks had also engaged in talks with the Canes involving Petey. The following are Friedman's exact words on the situation on his latest appearance on the Jeff Marek Show.

"According to multiple sources, the Vancouver Canucks and Carolina Hurricanes had discussions about Elias Pettersson that advanced to a stage where both the Canucks and the player needed to make serious decisions about where their relationship was headed. The Canucks ultimately decided in favour of another attempt at extending Pettersson, and he, facing the possibility Vancouver could move him, allowed agents Pat Brisson and JP Barry to resume negotiations. Previously, the talented forward indicated he preferred to wait until after the season."
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 29 at 12:57 a.m.
Thread: Splashing Cash
Can't see the Canucks being interested in that swap. Podkolzin was rushed into the NHL and put in a spot where he wasn't properly able to adjust to the North American style of play. Same thing happened with Hoglander, and look at what a year in the AHL allowing him to adjust and round out his game did. Same deal with Podkolzin, he's been great in the AHL this year and will get another shot at the NHL next year. Harris also doesn't really fill a need for Vancouver. Canucks have their first pair set with Hughes/Hronek, and will most likely sign one of Cole/Zadorov to stay around (guessing Zadorov with how vocal management was about liking his game and targeting him for over a year). That leaves one spot on the 2nd pair, which will be filled by a free agent signing (guessing they'll go hard after Tanev given Hughes told management he's a guy to target). Then they've got Soucy/Juulsen on the 3rd pair, so there wouldn't be a spot in the top 6 for Harris.