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Forum: Armchair-GM3 hours ago
Thread: Another Leafs gm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>noted</b></div><div>A late first, a fringe nhl prospect, and an average nhl player…ya I’d rather resign Buch or just wait until the deadline.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Away</b></div><div>I mean at least what lindholm got</div></div>

Assuming no major surprises with the remainder of R1 Toronto's pick will either be 22nd or 23rd. That's not exactly a late 1st. Minten has literally already played in the NHL, you can also literally click on his page to see his scouting analysis and projection. Calling him a fringe prospect is just ignorant. Jarnkrok is a fine player good for 35 points a season with a solid 2-way game and you could easily flip him for another 2nd.

How is that not a comparable return to Lindholm? The difference in prospect caliber is not that far off and you would be getting an almost guaranteed higher 1st round pick by at least 4 spots.

Maybe this is as simple as I'm a lot higher on Minten then you guys
Forum: Fauteuil - DG3 hours ago
Thread: Islanders rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Joblow</b></div><div>I don’t agree at all with this statement. Lundkvist wasn’t by any means a established Nhlers at all. Dallas could have acquire a complete bust en lost him the next year via waivers. Dallas acquire him because they believe he was a players that could help them. If a team inquired about Barron it’s because they believe he can have a impact for them so waivers won’t even be a question mark. Barron is not 25 he is 22. Defenseman growth always take longer.
Rasmus Sandin landed a 1st round pick and he wasn’t waiver eligible and wasn’t a established defender. Best example would probably be Jake Bean. Carolina received a 2nd rounder for a defenseman who had less experience than Barron and also who was left handed. I just don’t by your theory. It would applied maybe on a player that haven’t shown any promise but it ain’t the case with Barron. He have shown he can play at a high level in the NHL, problem like i said is just consistency like most you g player. Barron still have top 4 potential despite not being a all star at 22 years old. Some scout are full aware of that and he still hold great value, i have absolutely no doubt about that.</div></div>

Your whole premise is relying on a team wanting to spend assets to acquire him. And your argument is a single example of a player who is in a different situation traded for high value.

What about Bernard-Docker, Lassi Thomson, Bjornfot, Valimaki, Ty Smith? Would you offer a 2nd for either of Soderstrom or Heinola right now?

I am not at all arguing that defensemen take longer to develop on average but it is factually correct that one you lose waiver exemption, if you are not an established NHLer your trade value plummets. There are hundreds of examples of this. Eli Tolvanen is a great one for example, look at his success despite being a waiver claim.