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Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 10:56 a.m.

Thread: Rebuild Is Over

I like it

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 10:36 a.m.

Thread: Cup Run Again

My thoughts on the trade is we are giving them assets to go find the player to replace Rantanen, Caps don't have that player to give them. I would be curious to see what COL fans think of extending him, the price point has to be around 12.5 maybe even more. I don't think that will matter for the Caps as they can easily afford that. I think it comes down to how much COL will be able to pay him

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 6, 2023 at 6:19 p.m.

Thread: Cap Era Block Buster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Winnipeg doesn't touch that.</div></div>
Why?

Feel like it’s pretty competitive. Above average goalie with term comes back, two top 9 forwards -one a wrecking ball leader, a former 1st, and 3 top 60 picks.

For a 2 players that at a deadline get you 2 prospects and 2 1sts.

I heard WPG is looking for character, throw the C on Wilson give him 8x6.5 and there is character

Also, flip Mantha at trade deadline and get another asset - 1-3rd rounder

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 6, 2023 at 2:54 p.m.

Thread: Add Nylander

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>Why not just wait till the offseason and try to sign him for free? you are essentially trading a ton for a guy that wants to be overpaid... he wants 10m+ / year. Capitals are in a retool and cant afford to dump those assets just to turn around and overpay a player. you need ELC if you are going to overpay players</div></div>

Because the Leafs won't let him get to FA without getting something for him, especially with their GM's past experience.

I don't think that the Caps are rebuilding, I am confident they will be top 3 in the metro even with the current lineup. Last season was an anomaly due to injuries and a hatred to the coach. Healthy players, free flying system, book it.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 9, 2023 at 4:03 p.m.

Thread: New Look Caps

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Nothing in it for Winnipeg. The want win now pieces.</div></div>

That is fine, but you have a depreciating asset that you need to move, the return for PLD is 100% going to underwhelm the WPG fans

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 9, 2023 at 3:52 p.m.

Thread: New Look Caps

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>capsleafs447</b></div><div>Huh?</div></div>

Exactly

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 9, 2023 at 3:47 p.m.

Thread: New Look Caps

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>capsleafs447</b></div><div>Kuznetsov is not a cap dump. And holy heck even if he was we aren’t moving Lappy for that, not a chance.

Mantha is worth less.

That trade sucks for the Leafs. And for the Jets.

Klefbom is retired.</div></div>

I'm retired?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 4:15 p.m.

Thread: Konecny Barbashev

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>capsfan819</b></div><div>I just don't see McMichael being anything more than a 3C. I think that is his ceiling. LaPierre on the other hand I can see being a solid top six center</div></div>

I think McMichael has a good 2C career in him, honestly like Strome. I have been following the Hershey run and have been to a few games - I have said this a few times McMichael looks like a crafty vet out there dominating faceoffs, amazing control and passes, on the PP and PK I have been impressed with him. Lapierre is sooo underwhelming, he disappears often, I know he is younger less developed I just see a player like Johannson a former 1st with not trade value now, don't let that happen to Lapierre

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 9:45 a.m.

Thread: Konecny Barbashev

I like the ideas, I would play around with the lines differently.

I am hesitant to move McMichael I think he is ready to join the Caps and they need him, Lapierre is a year or 2 out I would like to move him instead.

Barbashev and Wilson on a line...have fun going against that.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 31, 2023 at 5:22 p.m.

Thread: Fun Caps Team

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>So you think Mantha is valuable at $5.7M (he's not) and further that a rebuilding team should give up a valuable draft pick to acquire 1 year rentals? I'm blown away at the people on here that don't understand why rebuilding teams don't give up draft picks let alone for rentals who are cap dumps.</div></div>

Because you are gonna screw the first 2-3 years of Bedard's development if the best player he sees around him is Tyler Johnson. Chicago is a unique rebuild now, they aren't a rebuild, they are a build around. How do you build around Bedard, who do you bring in to make him successful. I all but guarantee you will be disappointed in this offseason because your GM is thinking the right way, we are getting a once in a life time talent, we can't f this up.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 31, 2023 at 4:41 p.m.

Thread: Fun Caps Team

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlickWilly</b></div><div>Its one thing to bring in players. It's another to give up draft capital for an underachieving and overpaid winger. If we wanted a winger with skill, Boeser is on the block and has produced better and has an extra year on his contract.</div></div>

Because Boeser starts with a 1st and then you add

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 31, 2023 at 4:40 p.m.

Thread: Fun Caps Team

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wojohawk</b></div><div>It seems to be no self awareness day on how bad Mantha and his contract is. Teams don't pay 3rd rounders to acquire guys that play 60ish games and put up 25ish points a year making 6.5 million, they get a decent 2nd round pick to take the deal or you are stuck with it.</div></div>

Excuse me but that is 6-4 235lb 25 goal scorer Anthony Mantha to you

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 31, 2023 at 4:34 p.m.

Thread: Fun Caps Team

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JK74</b></div><div>Hawks decline.

You're better off buying Mantha out. He has negative value so your options are buyout or add a sweetner to dump him. Either way, you're not getting value back in any trade.</div></div>

I am blown away by the lack of interest Chicago fans have in brining in players with skill. I know Mantha has struggled, but he has skill to play with Bedard and size to protect him. Look at what the Penguins did with Crosby, you need dudes, you DON'T have dudes

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 31, 2023 at 4:33 p.m.

Thread: Fun Caps Team

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>Sorry but Anaheim is not a location for Kuzy my man</div></div>

Really, I feel like it could be a great spot. Yes Kuzy is a roller coaster, but he has the elite skill to compliment all of the Ducks young talent. Plus if he plays good you sell him at a deadline

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 31, 2023 at 4:12 p.m.

Thread: Simple leafscaps trade that solves it all

Swap Robertson for the 24 pick and Caps should 100% do this.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 28, 2023 at 3:36 p.m.

Thread: Caps Yotes Blockbuster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>:laugh Mantha = 0 value.

Logan Cooley, Clayton Keller and Nick Schmaltz for a bunch of worthless picks. FYI Arizona has 36 picks in the next 3 drafts. You can only afford so many picks that need to turn into NHL players.

Washington 8th overall pick is the only thing of any value. Teams heading for a re-build in 3 years once Ovechkin, Backstron. Oshie and Carlson retire.</div></div>

Yotes won’t take on salary, adding 3 firsts to the 36 picks definitely is a bad idea you are right, what an idiot

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 28, 2023 at 3:28 p.m.

Thread: Caps Yotes Blockbuster

Gotta have some talent around bedard. Then flip him end of next season or the year after

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 16, 2023 at 9:40 a.m.

Thread: New Look Caps

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>qc14</b></div><div>people really just saw the caps implode this past season as soon as carlson was out and still want to trade him to replace him with klingberg or dumba smh</div></div>

I agree, Caps were better with him than without and I think people in the NHL know that, maybe not the people on CapFriendly.

I am ok with moving him for a player like Nylander though, he will be 34 halfway through next season. I do think Dumba is a downgrade from Carlson, but I believe Nylander is a dynamic addition to the forwards.

Take out:
Kuznetsov - 31
Carlson - 33
Mantha - 29

Bring In:
Dumba - 29
Nylander - 27
Girard - 25

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 16, 2023 at 9:27 a.m.

Thread: New Look Caps

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SpinyLiving</b></div><div>Carlson is 33 now and just had a bad season</div></div>

Please share why it was a bad season...really curious to hear this

Dude got blasted in the head with a puck and missed over half the season. When he was on the ice the Caps were good, when he wasn't they were awful.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 16, 2023 at 9:20 a.m.

Thread: New Look Caps

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wojohawk</b></div><div>Vlassic is penciled in as starting his season in the NHL for the Hawks, they won't be trading him for a cap dump and a 25 year old "prospect"</div></div>

Sorry I am not plugged into the Chicago defense depth - f me right

"Any decent D prospect"

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 11, 2023 at 4:13 p.m.

Thread: Hypothetical Lottery Blockbuster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>EK65 would be a terrible idea. His value is an MTV level catfish. he had 97 points over his last 3 season then he randomly has a 100 point year and everyone forgets how terrible he was over the previous 3 years.

1st overall to 2nd overall would cost the Sharks Eklund + 2nd overall and maybe more. Bedard is that much better than everyone else in his draft class.</div></div>

My hypothetical is Sharks already have 1st, Caps have 2nd. Caps send 2nd to Sharks who then get 1 & 2 this year

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 21, 2023 at 10:54 a.m.

Thread: Caps Get Younger Still Competitive

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ClockReads2113</b></div><div>What is the obsession with Jennot? He's a bottom 6 player. No way I'm paying a 1st for him. Maybe a 3rd.</div></div>

Really? I know the last 2 season have been polar opposites and his average probably falls at 15ish goals and 20 assists- 35 points - but he is a total pain in the as* to play against. Building a roster isn't just about getting the best point producing players. When you have to go out on the ice every other shift against Wilson and someone like Jennot, plus this lineup with Oshie who is a pain, Pulj whose best trait is defense, Ovi who still is a pain to get hit by. That is 4 lines that have guys who are hard to play against. Jennot has skill to play with Backstrom on the 3rd line, which makes Backstrom better. Roster construction

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 21, 2023 at 10:39 a.m.

Thread: Caps Get Younger Still Competitive

I know the 1st is a reach, but it is a 2024 and the Caps would be covering half is salary for that season as well, freeing up 2.5 million for another run next year.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 16, 2023 at 4:23 p.m.

Thread: Caps Sell Off

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I can't see Los Angeles as being a team that is interested in a UFA defenseman like Orlov or Gavrikov for a first, especially the 2023 first. The Kings have always taken the long view, at least under Rob Blake.</div></div>

If they can't land Chychrun it is probably a good fall back option, Caps retain so the salary events out, no roster players or prospects. Cheaper than Chychrun too. I think a lot of GMs are gonna be stingy on the 1sts but for teams that are legit contenders I think they ultimately are willing to use it

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 27, 2022 at 12:40 p.m.

Thread: 1st Round Lineup

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fil97</b></div><div>1. Calgary isn't making that trade.
2. you are over the cap lol
3. still not good enough to win the cup with this team.
4. not realistic.
5. you would need a miracle for ovi to win another cup, already happened once hard to see it happening again. luck has an expire date.</div></div>

Thanks for your input you are very smart and wise, great hockey mind.......

Tell me - what does the salary cap mean in the playoffs?

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