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Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 6:18 a.m.

Thread: Shake Up

Los Angeles isn't trading Brandt Clarke.

Los Angeles isn't trading Trevor Moore.

Los Angeles isn't trading for Mitch Marner unless Pierre-Luc DuBois is going the other way.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 6:15 a.m.

Thread: Fresh ideas

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rajvinder</b></div><div>Kings fans genuinely have no understanding of the game.</div></div>
Nothing could illustrate your utter lack of insight better than this idiotic generalization, and betray your total unfitness for a position in <strong>any</strong> hockey operation. Thanks for revealing yourself.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 11:28 p.m.

Thread: Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>logmacinnis2</b></div><div>I have Dickinson that high because the guy has such a high floor imo and is a sure fire high end defenseman. The ducks should definitely go defense unless they jump to 1 tho because that top 6 is lethal for the future</div></div>
Yes, the Ducks should go defense if they don't get Celebrini. But a LD is out because with Mintyukov, Zellweger, LaCombe, Vaakanainen, Hinds and Dionicio on that side, Dickinson is overkill.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 11:19 p.m.

Thread: Fresh ideas

"Fresh Ideas"?!?!? That's <strong>hilarious</strong>!! This is the fourth time today, and the <strong>NINTH</strong> time this month, that you've proposed the ridiculous inclusion of Brandt Clarke in a trade to Toronto (8 times for Marner and once for Nylander), and on each of the earlier occasions, received unanimous opposition to the idea of including Clarke in ANY trade.

But go ahead. Just put your head down and ignore every single reaction you get. It's a horrible, terrible, no-good, horrible idea for the Kings, but you don't want to listen to what you don't want to hear.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 11:00 p.m.

Thread: Is this realistic If not what would make it

Welcome to CapFriendly. Sometimes, it's not too friendly, but don't be discouraged. We all had imperfect starts.

Los Angeles has no cap space, so every trade has to be cap-neutral or cap-positive. LaFerriere's minimal cap hit plus Spence's anticipated raise won't aggregate $2.9 million. Marner's cap hit is $10.9 million and then there's the additional cost of the player to replace the roster opening created by the 2-for-1 player swap, hence my esteemed friend <a href="/users/tkecanuck341" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@tkecanuck341</a>'s reference to "$10 million" and my esteemed friend <a href="/users/PuckLuck_77" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@PuckLuck_77</a>'s suggestion to add Pierre-Luc DuBois' $8.5 million to the equation.

Good luck with future posts!

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 10:47 p.m.

Thread: Marner to LA the only realistic trade due to his nmc that hell never waive

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MondayLettuce</b></div><div>Kempe is older than marner. This is more than fair.</div></div>
Boy, do <strong>you</strong> have a lot to learn.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 10:33 p.m.

Thread: some aggressiveness

I can't see Utah's new owners giving up the very first first-round draft pick of their regime, especially one as high as sixth overall.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 10:23 p.m.

Thread: Brady Tkachuk to NJD and Others

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>Palat vetoes the trade with Ottawa.</div></div>
Sorry to see that your entirely accurate second comment in this thread received some criticism. I second your opinion and offer my sympathy.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 10:19 p.m.

Thread: Off-season revamp

I don't think that Anaheim is interested in trading Frankie Vatrano for less than a first; the Ducks might as well keep him unless they get an offer they can't refuse. There's also a very good chance that they might want to re-sign him if he doesn't fall off markedly this season.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 9:16 p.m.

Thread: Offseason

I think that we're pretty well set with the young LDs that we already have plus Hinds and Dionicio coming in, so Dickinson isn't on my draft board. I think that Parekh will still be on the board at #5 even if we fall as a result of the draft lotteries, because the first four selections should be among Celebrini, Levshunov, Demidov, Lindstrom and Buium. (Or, you could be right, Dickinson might go that high.)

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 8:59 p.m.

Thread: MyKingsReallyHurt

Welcome to CapFriendly in general and to the enthusiastic cadre of Kings supporters in particular. :cheers

Quinton Byfield is a RFA who just had a breakout year in which he scored 55 points in 80 games (just under 0.69 PPG). Seth Jarvis is also a young RFA who has played an additional season, racking up 146 points in 231 games (just over 0.63 PPG) and who at this point is a much more developed defensive player than QB. So I believe that his team would offer him well north of $5 million on a bridge deal.

I don't think that the new coach is going to break up the Moore - Danault - Fiala line unless the Kings re-sign Viktor Arvidsson, who seems a better fit with Pierre-Luc DuBois in any event. He almost certainly won't play QB at center, thereby pushing Danault down to the fourth line, especially since most of QB's success this season was at LW.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 8:41 p.m.

Thread: Marner to LA the only realistic trade due to his nmc that hell never waive

It's utterly unrealistic to think that Los Angeles would trade either seven seasons of future captain and #1LD Mikey Anderson or two seasons of Adrian Kempe for Mitch Marner, let alone both.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 8:37 p.m.

Thread: if you want marner gone you are braindead

Radko Gudas is one of only two NHL-qualified RDs on the Anaheim roster (and the better of the two), his full NTC carries through the draft to July 1, and he declined to sign with the Maple Leafs last summer when he could have, so that trade isn't happening.

Anaheim doesn't need a center with Carlsson, Gauthier, McTavish and Zegras on the roster and wouldn't be interested in acquiring him to buy him out because he's owed a $7 million signing bonus by the team that owns him on July 1, so both sides of this deal are a NO for the Ducks.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 8:25 p.m.

Thread: Marner unlikely to waive

Someone may give you more than a sixth for Timmins, but it won't be Anaheim.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 8:17 p.m.

Thread: Helenius to Anaheim

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLInsider67</b></div><div>Look at it as 2 separate trades

1. Guhle + MTL pick for ANA pick

2. Barron + 2nd for Zegras (Zegras isn’t worth much more than that imo, he’s severely overrated)</div></div>
1. Although a very fine player, and a prospect who may mature into a #1LD, Guhle is of little interest to Anaheim because the Ducks already have Pavel Mintyukov playing #1LD. So the trade fails on that ground.

2. Player A: 211 games, 55 goals + 99 assists = 154 points, -40; Player B: 205 games, 81 goals + 68 assists = 149 points, -39

Saying those two entirely comparable players are only worth Barron and a future top-40 second is the worst misjudgment you will make until the draft.

Forum: Fauteuil - DGYesterday at 8:04 p.m.

Thread: Trevor Zegras part 123

We've been through this more than a dozen times before -- Zegras is <strong>not</strong> on the table, and even if he were, we're not interested in the Winnipeg first.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 8:00 p.m.

Thread: habs next year

Why would Anaheim want to <strong>buy</strong> a lame duck #3C with a $4.45 million cap hit coming off an injury-interrupted year?

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 6:04 p.m.

Thread: Moves

That Marner trade <strong>might</strong> make sense if he had 7 seasons left on his deal. But he's a lame duck.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 5:44 p.m.

Thread: Is this nuts or not

No matter how many times you guys are told that we're not trading 7 to ten seasons of Brandt Clarke for one season of Mitch Marner, especially since he's one of only three RDs on the roster for next season, you guys stubbornly persist as if you're impervious to input. It's like the people on the <strong><em>Titanic</em></strong> who were told repeatedly about icebergs but just kept blindly steaming ahead.

To help you, here's a list of high-quality players that even Rob Blake isn't going to send you in a Mitch Marner trade, no matter what the rest of the deal looks like (within reason):
Anderson
Byfield
Clarke
Danault
Fiala
Kempe
Moore

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 4:17 p.m.

Thread: Another Monday

No matter how many times you guys are told that we're not trading 7 to ten seasons of Brandt Clarke for one season of Mitch Marner, especially since he's one of only three RDs on the roster for next season, you guys stubbornly persist as if you're impervious to input. It's like the people on the <strong><em>Titanic</em></strong> who were told repeatedly about icebergs but just kept blindly steaming ahead.

To help you, here's a list of high-quality players that even Rob Blake isn't going to send you in a Mitch Marner trade:
Anderson
Byfield
Clarke
Danault
Fiala
Kempe
Moore

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 4:07 p.m.

Thread: NEW ERA Maple Leafs

All three teams decline. NY isn't about to trade five seasons of Adam Fox for one season of Mitch Marner because offense isn't a weak point for the Rangers and Norris Trophy winners don't grow on trees. Ottawa has little use (if any) for Tavares and could get something much more future-oriented for Chychrun. Kampf is of no interest to Anaheim, who are loaded with bottom-6 forwards, but might give you a sixth to take Reaves off your hands and spell Ross Johnston every other game, at least until teams stop trying to beat up on players like Marner, Zegras and Zellweger.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 3:30 p.m.

Thread: Real Cup Contenders

Los Angeles is in enough cap trouble as it is, and this silly trade would ADD almost $8 million to that problem, not to mention taking away one of our only two NHL-experienced RhDs. Unless you're going to take Pierre-Luc DuBois back, any Marner-to-Los-Angeles trade is mathematically impossible because we're not sending cap back via quality players with term like Anderson, Danault, Fiala, Kempe or Moore.

Marner simply isn't a good fit for either SoCal team. You Toronto guys really have to stop trying to shoehorn him in to those rosters.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 3:03 p.m.

Thread: I FIXED TORONTO FOR YOU READ DESCRIPTION

Why would we want to take $11 million off your hands when we have Carlsson, McTavish, Zegras and Gauthier all to play center?

One season of the three-and-a-half-year-younger 60-point Vatrano is a lot cheaper than one season of 65-point Tavares and we have the option of re-signing Frankie, which we will be both more likely and more able to do than re-sign Tavares.

Gudas declined to play in Toronto when he had the chance, and I'll bet that his feelings haven't changed. Trading him isn't in Anaheim's best interests at all because he's one of only two NHL-qualified RDs we have under contract for next season.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 2:52 p.m.

Thread: Dubios MTL Getting Creative

But you're <strong>adding</strong> cap for Los Angeles, which defeats the whole purpose of trading DuBois because he's odds-on to produce more than Anderson and Dvorak combined this coming season.

DuBois for Anderson and the second is barely conceivable, but I think Blake will tough it out for another year.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 1:41 p.m.

Thread: Marner Trades v1

Take out Clarke and Liljegren. The opportunity to negotiate a new contract with Marner doesn't come close to the value of 7 to ten seasons of our best prospect since Anze Kopitar.

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