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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 15, 2020 at 10:12 a.m.
Thread: OTT trade Just spit balling Im probably wrong You tell me
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>I wouldn't be upset if that's how things turned out. I'm just not a fan of drafting a goalie in the 1st round. There are A.) FAR too many goalie busts in the 1st and B.) If you look at the NHL today (I'm including tandem goalie systems) There are more 2nd rounder starting goalies in the NHL than 3rd rounder starting goalies...AND...there are more 3rd rounder starting goalies than 1st rounders. 2nd &gt; 3rd &gt; 1st. So starting goalies are VERY easily found in later rounds. ALL goalies just need time to develop. That really can't be said for centerman. Heck there are teams out there with 1st round centerman as their #3C! Ironically the Hawks have (3)...#3OA.</div></div>

The last 1st round goalie busts were Jack Campbell and Mark Visentin in 2011. That being said, Campbell put up starter numbers for LA last year. They both played in the OHL their draft year which is not a men's league. Askarov has put up exceptional numbers in Russia's 2nd Best Men's League (VHL). I understand your concern but I'm failing to see your point.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2020 at 8:54 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 8, 2020 at 5:42 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 5, 2020 at 1:46 p.m.
Thread: Realistic
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhatNowDiscussion</b></div><div>1. Mitchell is not a lock at all. I wouldn't be surprised if he takes the same path as Boqvist
2. Murphy is arguably the Hawks best dman when it comes to actually playing defense and I don't see him getting moved
3. I think DeHaan gets moved over Maatta just because of age and injury
4. Considering Kubs scored 30 goals as a rookie, I have a feeling his bridge deal will be closer to Laine's bridge deal in the 2x5mil range
5. I think every Hawks fan would rather see Lankinen take over as a backup rather than Delia</div></div>

1) Mitchell's game is much more mature then Boqvist coming into his first year in the league. His game is NHL whereas boqvist wasn't viewed in the same light and was forced into the role. Most of the Hawks analysts have said the same thing. Mitchell will also be 22 this coming season a good 18 months older then Boqvist and much more filled out physically.

2) If there isn't a CBO, then you have Bovist, Murphy, Mitchell and Seabs. Seabs isn't tradable as everyone knows. Boqvist and Mitchell aren't going anywhere. So there is the possibility of sliding Murphy to the right and trading Maatta and De Haan, but I don't see them trading low on De Haan and arguably, he was as good as Murphy defensively when he was healthy. Murphy is also 27 years old, so he's entering the peak of his career...what you see is what you get at this point. If the Hawks were challenging for a cup, then Murphy is more important then Kap, but realistically, they aren't.

3) De Haan is noticeably better and a true 2nd liner, Maatta is not a 2nd liner and while he is a fine 3rd liner, we have cheaper options (Koekko, Carlsson, Beaudin, etc.).

4) That is a bad comparison when you had 3 years of Laine playing in the league. Kubalik has 1 year and doesn't have arbitration rights so he either takes a fair deal or goes back to Europe. A fair deal for a player at 24 with 1 year in the league for 30 goals would be a 1 or 2 year deal in the threes, maybe $4M even tops. He doesn't have a lot of options and the Hawks need to ensure this wasn't a fluke.

5) I think that's fair but experts that cover the Hawks (The Athletic as an example) still have Delia penciled in as the #2 right now and Lankinen as the #3. Delia has a one way agreement so something to consider.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 29, 2020 at 7:49 a.m.
Thread: Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Petrock83</b></div><div>Crow might be (emphasis on might, given his injuries and age) better than Murray, but getting Murray would be a massive move for the future. He had a down year and isn't the most consistent goalie, but when he is on he is a top 10 guy in the league and has championship experience. I'm definitely in favor of a Nylander for Murray type deal.</div></div>

We know Lehner, right. He was just traded at the TDL for a 2nd rounder and a lower prospect. Lehner &gt; Murray and that was the TDL where draft picks get treated with lower value than the offseason. Also, Lehner was playing REALLY good. Murray ( I agree with you) was very inconsistent. I'd personally prefer to not have to caveat "when he's on" for a goalie trade. I mean, i understand everyone is going to have an off day here or there, but it's just a lot to give up for a guy that's being sold low.

***EDIT*** If PIT takes Zack Smith too....ok we're talking now.