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Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 10:04 p.m.
Thread:
The leafs dont need defensive help
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>lmao you got banned on capfriendly</div></div>
🤷🏻♂️ 12 year olds, snowflakes, and a Report button. What could go wrong?
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 9:51 p.m.
Thread:
The leafs dont need defensive help
Dubas runs the team like it’s a fantasy league.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 8:54 p.m.
Thread:
Early Questions for Bruins Fans- 14 games in Wanna hear your thoughts
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>I never said there weren't bad moves, in fact I said the complete opposite in my post. Lets look at each trade though:
<strong>Buffalo - 6th to take Carrier </strong>
Carrier has turned into a quality 4th line enforcer and the 6th rounder is a long shot to see the NHL
<strong>Florida - Smith + 4th to take Marchessault </strong>
Ya Florida got absolutely hosed on this one and I question the management group. Marchessault had 51pts in his only season for FLA and was only a $750k cap hit. Smith was coming off a down year and FLA was worried because they had him locked up at $5 million per for the next 5 years. Just stupid and easily the worst trade made.
<strong>Carolina - 5th to take Connor Brickley</strong>
This one is interesting but its really hindsight 20/20. The 5th round pick was via Boston in a deal for JML (I think) and VGK used it to select Jack Dugan, who led all of the NCAA in scoring last year. Jury is still out on Dugan, but doesn't seem like a bad deal
<strong>Winnipeg - Swapped 1st + 3rd to take Chris Thorburn</strong>
They moved back 11 spots and gave up a 3rd. They could have grabbed a decent guy with the pick, but missed. VGK selected Suzuki and later moved him for Patches. At the time of the deal though it wasn't a terrible deal. Maybe a little high, but not outrageous
<strong>Tampa Bay - 2nd + 4th + Gusev to take Garrison</strong>
Gusev hadn't exploded yet into the offensive player he was in the KHL. Garrison was a $4.5 million cap hit w/ 2yrs left on his contract. I'd say TBL did alright in this deal. Kind of tough to predict Gusev to go off like he did.
<strong>Islanders - 1st + 2nd + Grabovski + Bischoff to take Berube</strong>
This one came down to moving Grabo and his $5.5 million cap hit, which cost them 1st + 2nd + Bischoff in reality. Maybe a touch high but TOR gave up a 1st to move Marleau's contract.
<strong>Anaheim - Theodore to take Stoner</strong>
I get they were trying to protect other guys, but this deal now just doesn't look good for them. Even at the time I was surprised by the deal
<strong>Minnesota - Tuch + 3rd to take Haula</strong>
This was one where right away I felt like VGK bent someone over. Haula was an underrated player and touch was one of their better prospects.
<strong>Columbus - 1st + 2nd + David Clarkson to take Karlsson</strong>
So really (like Grabo and NYI) it cost 1st + 2nd to take on Clarkson ($5.25 million). Karlsson like Gusev exploded after the fact. He was used so different in VGK and had nearly as many goals in first year in VGK than he did career points.
<strong>Pittsburgh - 2nd to take MAF</strong>
Not a bad deal for either side, although PIT seems to have some instability in net now lol
FLA by and large was hands down the worst deal. There were a few other that from day 1 you knew would favor VGK, but the rest were close value wise when you look at it from when they were made. At the end it comes down to how much do you trust your management group to evaluate their own talent and not be like FLA, or CBJ who was potentially misusing Karlsson.</div></div>
The really sad part about Florida. They went 8-1 and protected Petrovic and Pysyk on D. If i remember correctly they had cap and payroll issues.
Minny was keeping Dumba from going. They all had their reasons at the time. Seems like they all backfired.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 7:40 p.m.
Thread:
Can someone explain this to me
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ryminister_27</b></div><div>Former 30 goal scorer that could definitely do it again if he plays with the right players, only makes $1M against the cap, can go up and down to the taxi squad to help save money.. sure he hasn't been good for a few years, but playing in a top 9 like Toronto is as good of a shot as any to regain his form. & if it doesn't, Leafs have up nothing on their roster and nothing that would be making their roster.
I'll take deals like that any day.</div></div>
Agreed.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 7:14 p.m.
Thread:
Can someone explain this to me
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ryminister_27</b></div><div>The reason is simple:
Carolina was looking to rid themselves of Dzingel's cap so they moved him to Ottawa for Galchenyuk. They had no interest in keeping him. Toronto likely had interest in Galchenyuk from Ottawa but divisional price was likely too high. Toronto moved 2 guys that likely won't have any NHL impact for Galchenyuk because it clears a contract spot. They can now add someone for only a draft pick instead of having to include a player. It's a very good deal for Toronto. It comes with no risk because of Galchenyuk doesn't work out, they send him to the minors or taxi squad since he's cleared waivers already. If he works out and performs, they gave up virtually nothing for him.
A+ move by Dubas</div></div>
I stand by my comment. Trash for trash.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 6:57 p.m.
Thread:
Early Questions for Bruins Fans- 14 games in Wanna hear your thoughts
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>Karlsson wasn't considered a major add. He took off in VGK and no where near that player in CBJ. The FLA deal was by far the worst, but there were deals that didn't turn into much either.</div></div>
Islanders gave up up a 1st (Erik Brannstrom), 2nd, Grabovski, Bischoff to Vegas to take a UFA goalie.
Jets gave up 13th pick (Nick Suzuki) and 3rd rounder for the 24th pick and Vegas select a UFA
Jackets also gave up 1st and 2nd with Karlsson.
There were plenty of bad moves.
A 3rd is not going to be any kind of incentive to bypass anyone and take a stiff. 🤷🏻♂️
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 6:50 p.m.
Thread:
Can someone explain this to me
Trash for trash. Explained
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:59 p.m.
Thread:
Core Values
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RawZuccSauce420</b></div><div>Respect not wanting to do this trade cause it’s just very lopsided against NSH but clearly none of you have actually watched or know anything about Simek lol</div></div>
3rd pair guy on any decent team. If he’s playing 2nd pair....you are in deep trouble.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:55 p.m.
Thread:
2021 All Canadian Team Could a different division put out a better team
Maybe not, but none of the Canadian teams could win any of the other divisions. Lol.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:45 p.m.
Thread:
Goaltending solution offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>Potential top six forward
Potential top four d
Potential starter
Second round pick
I get Gibson is better but that collection of assets has to close the gap considerably.</div></div>
Me thinks you are overly optimistic on their potential.
2nd and Lavoie are ok pieces. The d man. Meh, maybe a 3rd pair guy. Goalies are way to unpredictable. He could be a low end 1, he could be ECHL trash. Better goalies than MK in free agency.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:41 p.m.
Thread:
Core Values
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OutCold13</b></div><div>I guess you are right Simeks analytics are much worse then I was expecting.</div></div>
Nashville is likely to 8-1 and protect 4 d men anyway. Only way they lose Ekholm is by choice.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:14 p.m.
Thread:
Core Values
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>Calling Simek a #4/5 is generous TBH.
NSH doesn't remotely consider this.</div></div>
Ya i was being kind.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:04 p.m.
Thread:
Core Values
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OutCold13</b></div><div>I think you are undervaluing these "Stiffs".</div></div>
Nope. They are not even close to Ekholm value. Ekholm is #2/3. Simek is 4/5. BP is iffy to make it to the NHL.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 4:55 p.m.
Thread:
Core Values
That does not touch Ekholm. They can trade him for a 1st and decent exempt prospect. Pair of stiffs does not cut it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 4:14 p.m.
Thread:
Dunn
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>I never said it was. I said it was lazy, purely speculative and unsubstantiated, all of which is quite correct.</div></div>
You mean like TSN reporting Pens and Blues were close to a deal for Dunn right before Rutherford quit? Think they just made it up out of boredom?
You may not like it or want it to be true, does not mean it isn’t.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 3:54 p.m.
Thread:
Early Questions for Bruins Fans- 14 games in Wanna hear your thoughts
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KennyBoi</b></div><div>1) When this lineup is fully healthy, which forward are you taking OUT of this lineup, Bjork, Kase, Frederic, or Wagner?
Obviously depends on how good some of these guys are playing, but for me I would sratch Freddy just for the simple fact that his game has kind of gotten away from him recently. He was fantastic at the start of the szn but now I just havn't seen that same hustle and relentlessness from him.
EARLY TRADE DEADLINE
1) Which position would you like the Bruins to address?
2RW if the Kase experiment doesn't work, then Top4 LD.
2) Who's an early favorite that this team may shop around?
Right now I think with the disappointment in expectations of Kase, he's the most likely to be shopped around for a 2RW coming back of-course. There's a small possibility of Bjork being shopped around but I think Sweeney keeps him as SEA bait. In the end, I think Sweeney will only move picks at the TDL.
FREE AGENCY
1) Pretty tricky question this early- Does David Krejci get re-signed by this Boston staff?
He probably does but personally I would let him walk. Uhhh I'm kind of 50/50 on that still, depends on the price and term ig.
2) Does Rask and Halak return?
I think both return. Rask on a multi-year deal and Halak on a 1yr deal. No need to rush Vladar or Swayman.
3) After watching Lauzon and Zboril, would you still like this team too add a Top 4 LHD?
I've liked what I've seen from them so I would say adding a Top4 LD isn't a NEED per say but I def wouldn't mind it.
4) What is an early contract extension looking like for Nick Ritchie?
I would say somewhere in the 2-3.5 mill range for 3-4 yrs. Signing him long-term for big money would be a huge mistake.
SEATTLE EXPANSION
1) Would you like to see Boston make an arranged deal with Seattle, so they can't take certain players? (Lauzon, Ritchie, Frederic, Zboril, Grz, etc)
<strong>Oh 100%. Sweeney should def send them a mid-low round pick for them to pick Bjork, or send them like a 3rd for them to take Moore. But i doubt they take Moore with the surplus of Dmen available this expansion draft.</strong></div></div>
Go look at the trades made with Vegas. Not getting off that easy.
Teams were giving up Tuch, Karlsson, Reilly Smith, Shea Theodore, 1sts to protect players or take bad contracts. A 3rd will do nothing.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 3:46 p.m.
Thread:
Goaltending solution offseason
Better sign a free agent. Ducks have no incentive to move Gibson. 2nd/Lavoie and a bunch of stiffs is not going to give them one.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 3:22 p.m.
Thread:
New year new team
Boston is not downgrading.
Only way you are getting Debrusk is package for Boesser.
3rd and Shen for Virtanen about the most Boston would offer.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 3:20 p.m.
Thread:
Dunn
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>And by smoke you mean lazy, purely speculative, unsubstantiated clickbait nonsense...</div></div>
If it was just random teams fanblogs...sure. It hasn’t been though.
In the end i don’t think they move him. But i never thought we’d be having this discussion to begin with. 🤷🏻♂️
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 3:08 p.m.
Thread:
Early Questions for Bruins Fans- 14 games in Wanna hear your thoughts
Probably Bjork despite the fact he is actually looking good. But i am not counting on Kase so....
Depends on health and productivity of Kase or his replacements. Prob nothing significant at deadline. McCabe or Murray might be the biggest fish they would land on D. Would not be surprised to see them take another run at Palmieiri.
Yes they still need to add a top 4 LD - prob thru trade
Not sure they have much to offer outside of picks, they need to hold the few pieces in the farm they do have. Bjork/Zboril maybe.
Free agency won’t be determined til in house is dealt with. DK46 will be up to him, if he wants to come back a year or 2 at 4m or so. Rask has dug himself a hole but there is not better options. If he does not retire 2 years at 4-5m. If he does not take that move on sign Raanta or someone else. Darth or Swayman will be #2.
Lot can happen with Ritchie between now and then. Prob a 1 year deal 2.5ish
Seattle - they will take Lauzon or Frederic/Ritchie whichever is not protected. Every team that dealt with Vegas to protect themselves got the short end of the stick. Sure would love to see Kase and the rights to JFK and Kokho to take Moore. Doubt that flies. Better off just letting them take whoever they take a fix it afterwards.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 2:52 p.m.
Thread:
Dunn
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Maybe Perunovich? Oh brother...
And yeah, documented by lazy, purely speculative, unsubstantiated clickbait nonsense. Meanwhile, I'm trying to figure out why anyone imagines that a team chasing another Cup trades a strong regular for picks. It's past time to realize you've formed a skewed view of this situation. Dunn isn't up for grabs. He's now partnering Parayko, in fact.</div></div>
I never said it was a good idea for Blues to move him. I think they are dumb if they do. I think it’s insane. Yet...smoke.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 2:50 p.m.
Thread:
What I Actually Want To See Bergevin Do
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheHebrewHammer</b></div><div>I wouldn't say Ho-sang is trash. Since his junior days, the issue has been his attitude/work ethic. This has lead to many teams not wanting to take a shot at him. He is a very skilled player but again his attitude has stunk. I would like to see him get another chance at the NHL but who knows If he ever does. And yea you could have had him for free, but if that trade were brought up to Lou Lamarillo, he would take it.</div></div>
That’s part of why he’s trash. He just crapped out in Europe. Best to stay away.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 2:10 p.m.
Thread:
What I Actually Want To See Bergevin Do
Byron is almost untradeable. Probably have to buy him out.
Could have had Ho-sang for free. He’s trash.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 2:01 p.m.
Thread:
Rebuild
Easy no from Boston. Kase maybe. But i don’t think Pettersson is of any interest to Boston.
I could see Boston moving Debrusk in a package for an LD1 in the offseason. Pettersson is not that type.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 15, 2021 at 1:30 p.m.
Thread:
PIT Trade MB will annonce it at 12
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yanp007</b></div><div>With the cap situation, this kind of trade won't happens anymore, a team canno't take 9M in cap and giving nothing.</div></div>
So you’ll have to make room. You are going to have give them what they want, not what works for you. They would take a salary back to make the trade work. But it does not work for them if the salary is the primary assets.
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