No i want the bruins to suck

How the heck can you be a Leafs fan have the Habs as your second favourite?? Wow!! Just WOW!!

Cuz the first NHL game I ever watched was a Habs game and i loved them (especially price he was pretty good then). But i live in toronto so i kind of have to like the leafs. thats why

Stop reading facebook.

The. Bruins. Aren’t. Trading. For. A. Defensemen.

No you don’t. Have a spine.

I actually like the leafs cuz i dont have sportsnet so i can only watch leafs games on CBC so they are like my regular season favourites. Then when the playoffs come around the habs do good so i cheer on them

Soft.

Not sure that’s what the Blues are looking for.

Not sure the difference between Dunn and Zboril is a 2nd.

But i think Boston needs to.

Blues don’t need to. I think they hold out for something that makes more sense.

Vincent Dunn return, if there is a trade, will underwhelm many on here. I am guessing a 2nd and a 3rd or 4th.

I think Zboril has played his way out of this value

Thw bruins can wait it out as long as they need too, maybe by the deadline if they need an d they start calling around

You're so big and tough

Stop with the rumors!

You're making Bcarlo mad!!!!!

I see you always dismissing people’s ACGMs. But I never see you post one. Do one. I am very interested in how you would improve the Bruins. Legitimately.

Click on my name. Then you’ll be able to see all the ACGMs I’ve made. You’re right that there aren’t as many as some posters create, mostly because i don’t get all giddy every time i see some dolt on twitter or facebook post about some random trade.

I don’t think theres any chance the bruins make a major move, and i 100% understand why they wouldn’t. The best way for the bruins to improve is to let them play.

I think Sweeney should have scooped up Nate Schmidt. That would have been perfect fit especially for a low price tag.

Completely agree

I get it that they want to bring along the younger D in the system to give them a shot. Develop etc. BUT we still want to win it all now. Need these veteran D to maintain our system and culture for the young bucks to grow into.

Theres plenty of vets for the culture and structure to be maintained.

To many teams in in on Dunn not to get a decent return, especially with Blues having no need to move him.

Agree on Zboril. Would be more like Zboril and 4th or 5th for Dunn.

Blues asking for 1st.

Boston will likely pick in bottom 6. Here is every player drafted in the bottom 6 starting the year after Dunn was drafted.

Riley Tufte
Tage Thompson
Brett Howden
Lucas Johansson
Trent Frederic
Sam Steel
Jake Oettinger
Morgan Frost
Shane Bowers
Henri Jokiharju
Eli Tolvanen
Klim Kostin
Jacob Bernard Docker
Nicolas Beaudin
Nils Ludkvist
Rasmus Sandin
Joe Veleno
Alexander Alexeyev
Jakob Pelletier
Nolan Foote
Ryan Suzuki
Brayden Tracey
John Beecher
Ryan Johnson
Jake Neighbors
Jacob Perreault
Ridley Greig
Brendan Brisson
Mavrick Bourque
Ozzy Weisblatt

Can’t say that there are to many in there that Dunn would not be the better option in a 1 for 1.

This years draft after pick 20 does not look very intriguing.

A late 1st for a 30 point d man still in his RFA years is not out of the question. I think most teams will try to get them to a pair of 2nds or less. Comes down to who blinks first. But Blues hold all the cards on this one.

Problem is, it appears that there are a bunch of offensive d-men on the market, which dilutes his value.

Like who? Under 25 under team control?

There’s Mete. He sucks. Who else?

The Blues aren't swapping Dunn for a far lesser LD and a meh pick. Obviously.

Try looking at players in those draft slots in years before Dunn - later drafted players on average take longer to get to the NHL, even just looking at ones who become regulars. Most of that list won't have even been given a shot yet.

I don't think the Bruins are looking to trade any of their 5 young D. (McAvoy, Carlo, Lauzon, Zboril, Vaakainen) - they're playing 4 of them and being a top defensive team. I don't think they'll make a big in-season move this year. Moving up another contract number (Dunn going to get more$ than Zboril based on past performance) isn't great as the amazing discount forwards need new contracts or are done (Krejci, Bergeron, Marchand, Pasternak)

I haven't watched Dunn much - but don't get why StL need to trade him if he's that good. Or why they signed Krug if Dunn's as strong an offensive LD as described while trying to trade him to Boston.

If they are trading their 1st they are not trading a player that has had time to get established. This is a pretty solid representation of the quality of player they would be giving up. The odds of getting a high end player at the bottom of the 1st are slim. Pasta only happens once a decade, if that.

I agree they are not trading one of their young d men to get Dunn, makes no sense. The premise is around giving up the 1st.

Dunn is half of what Krug is, if that. He’s a 30 point guy. He is not going to become a 50 point guy. He’s still an upgrade for Boston as 6 of their 8 d men are defensive type, 1 two way, and Grizz who is tough to quantify as he is neither really. Unlike most on that will be on the market he is under team control. Giving up a 1st is easier to take. I imagine most teams are looking at the Toews trade and are trying to acquire him without giving up a 1st. My comment is to show why Boston should jump in and do it if that’s what it takes. They have only had 2 1sts in the last 4 years so they are leery of giving up another with their shallow farm. I was trying to show that odds are they would come out ahead if they did.

Coaching staff fed up with Dunn. Couple bad giveaways and spotty defense early. It’s calmed down a bit. Their LD depth in the system is not great so I think cooler heads will prevail and they hold onto him unless they get an offer they want.

Not sure that is a fair assessment. Dunn is not very good defensively. Zboril is pretty sound in that regard but does not provide much offense though he moves the puck better than advertised. Blues are not deep on LD organizationally and if they can’t get the 1st they are looking for they might be willing to swap Dunn’s offense for Zboril’s D. The entire reason they are considering moving Dunn is they are fed up with his defense. The 2 have roughly the same value. Just depends on what you value more. Boston needs an PP QB, Blues looking to improve defensively, seems like a match really. Keep in mind that Zboril was much higher regarded coming out of juniors, unlike Dunn he was buried behind Chara, Krug, Grizz and had to compete with a pair of other top 50 picks as well. Just because Dunn has been in the league longer at same age does no mean he is more advanced or a better option, they just had different circumstances.

I think Blues will hold out for the 1st while teams are looking at the Devon Toews trade as a model for a deal.