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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 26, 2023 at 4:41 p.m.
Forum: Fauteuil - DGJun. 26, 2023 at 9:56 a.m.
Thread: Kyle Connor cost
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheDuminator</b></div><div>Wanted and would get is the difference
Heard that no 1st for PLD return from LA... so It is ONE big piece (Player or good 1st round pick)+ added value is the right value.</div></div>

Difference between PLD and Connor is contract length. Connor has a couple of years left, while PLD has 1. WPG could hold out Connor until next year, they aren't forced to do anything right now.

And depending on which rumor you believe for PLD, either Villardi or Byfield along with others are heading to WPG. MTL doesn't have someone of that ilk available to trade, maybe Dach + if you want a closer comparison. So if a guy that has 1 year left on his contract is commanding NHL players, imagine what a guy with 2 years left on his contract (plus, is a top player in the league) would command.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 20, 2023 at 11:17 a.m.
Thread: Hit the gas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wjdjdkf</b></div><div>Some great points. But I think Detroit’s biggest issue is top end NHL talent. Harder to find that via draft and free agency. Adding two 40 goal scorers and a top four D man should make this team competitive today and moving forward.

Hanifin wants out of Calgary and the rumor mill is swirling? Is there any package Calgary could create to make this work? Would Wallinder be enough going the other way. Trying to be realistic. Conroe isn’t an idiot and you have to give to get. Edvidsson looks like a blue chip prospect and you’d need that to make a deal liek this work.

And yes as stated obviously dependent on ability to sign long term.</div></div>

If Steve is going to trade a Dman, it'll be Wallinder, who is very boom/bust. Wallinder has a top 2 ceiling, but also a Euro-only contract floor (a pretty wide variance). Johansson could be a piece going as well. Kubalik is just a throw-in (which I don't understand why everyone thinks DET is going to trade Kubalik, he's a goal scorer on a team that can't score goals). I would even throw in a 2nd rounder in 2023 to make a Wallinder/Johansson/Kubalik deal work, and even add the 3rd rounder for Vladar.

I just think if Conroy is going to move 2 of his best players, unless he has some magic in the bag, he might as well blow it all up, because they won't be a playoff team next year.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 19, 2023 at 8:14 p.m.
Thread: All in
That is probably the kind of deal EDM would have to make to get Perron from DET. It's an overpay, but not a major one, but EDM would have to overpay to get any retention.

Petrov is a pretty good prospect, big, shoots right handed, and is in the CHL (so no Russia issues). Will need a little time in the AHL, but is a good asset down the road. As a righty, can play both wings (though, he's played his off wing for his CHL career).

Foegele is a bottom 6 guy that can play in the top 6 in a pinch (2nd line only). His usage was up this season (though, in less games), and some of his warts came up, but is a positive guy on the ice in shot and chance differential.

Obviously, the first is a later first, as EDM will be a playoff team. But, it could be packaged by DET to another team to improve the now, especially getting a prospect like Petrov.

I don't see how this makes EDM better. It makes the 2nd line better, but weakens the 3rd/4th lines. EDM's issue is depth, and if I was Holland, I'd have a hard time cutting into my depth. Petrov has an NHL body now, could end up being a piece next year, along with what Foegele brings.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2023 at 12:00 p.m.
Thread: Something different
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Comments from Craig Button scared me a little. He said the market for a 5’7 winger is very small no matter how good of a scorer he is. Dorion is in a tough spot. They gave up a 1st, 2nd and 3rd and the best thing they could do is probably hold on to him till the deadline on a 1 year deal, hope he has a career year and get similar to that return from a contender (late 1st, 2nd, 3rd).

Idk how knowledgeable he is but that doesn’t sound promising</div></div>

Button is typically pretty clued in. He's the most accurate mock drafter over the last 5 years, even passing Bob McKenzie, and that's because of his front office connections. With the ownership situation seemingly coming to an end (though, not anytime soon really), OTT will have a decision on trying to squeeze out 1 year (and making the playoffs this season), or getting as much value as they can for Debrincat before the draft. If he's not traded at the draft, he probably won't be traded until the TDL.

Staying in OTT would be bad for Debrincat, unless his numbers shoot way up in his 2nd season. If he has another 60point season, he'll probably kiss $8m/year goodbye on the UFA market.

The deal listed is probably what Steve would want to get Debrincat, I can't see him going much further (definitely not including a 1st rounder). Losing Berggren wouldn't be great for DET, but he'd be "replaced" by Debrincat. Kubalik would be a short term replacement for Debrincat in OTT, and a flippable asset if they aren't in position for the playoffs.