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Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 29, 2020 at 1:03 p.m.
Thread: The season fell apart at the TOR trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>I get that, impact of other players etc... but they are usually asked to come in and play big roles on bad teams. This is a smaller role on a good team with help. And he's got 2 really good centers to hold his hand on the way. </div></div>
3C is not a small role when the 3C is usually the cog for defensive play, yet you want offense from that role too. It might not b a flash role, but it is a big spot to put a just drafted kid into. Also, I went with games played as opposed to offense to simply put the onus on usage as opposed to the argument of offensive/defensive/etc impact which requires discussion/debate. It was a "looks, these kids just don't play for a few years, much less impact"

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quote:</div>Also no one is arguing Namestnikov over Kap. If anything I don't think there is much of a difference there which I stated. But as others have pointed out, there is the cap there to sign Hoffman as well.</div>
But you didn't sign player-x. You said "Convince me this isn't a better team." If you want to bring in a bunch of other stuff and then say "Convince me THIS isn't a better team." then maybe, but the team that you presented, no.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quote:</div>You are basically saying in the hopes of this whole team on a bounce back of Jankowski.</div>
No, I didn't. No one did. Not even Jankowski's mom. He is a guy brought in for league minimum for the bottom-6. I said that he had a bad offensive year, but decent offense the prior season. He still was solid defensively and if his hands come back a little he is worth the shot. If anyone puts a team's hopes of a whole team on what a #10ish forward does... that team is trash.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quote:</div>But the top 6 really isn't improved from what it could have been</div>
Your top-6 is not better than reality.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quote:</div>and the potential of that 3rd line is so much better than what we are currently looking at... It really comes down to Mercer at 3C. You think he's not ready. I'm telling you I'd rather play Mercer for 12 minutes a night over Jankowski. Especially knowing that 4th line can munch minutes to help take the harder minutes from him. It's a perfect spot for a rookie to succeed.</div>
A spot for a rookie, maybe. A spot for a 19 year old freshly drafted kid out of the Q, taken in the second half of the 1st round (not a top pick), no. And actually, you are basically saying that you think that Mercer would be the weak spot on the team. Mercer and Namestnikov are the only outside guys that you are bringing in... I just don't understand the "Convince me this isn't a better team" position when you state that your opinion is that Namestnikov/Kapanen is a wash and that Mercer needs to have the 4th line munch extra minutes to hide Mercer. Even looking at your own responses in this AGM, this team is at best a wash. So if you are pointing it to be a what, why would anyone else think it is better?
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 29, 2020 at 11:34 a.m.
Thread: The season fell apart at the TOR trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>Jankowski got replaced by Lucic. Lets not go around claiming he's greater than anyone.
The irrational fear of playing younger players needs to end. He can do no worse than what Jankowski would do. When that is the hurdle he clears it easily.</div></div>

I am not afraid to play younger guys. Jankowski is simply better than O'Connor. And it isn't like Jankowski is old, he is 26, two years younger than Namestnikov who you brought in. Why are you afraid to play younger guys? (rhetorical question)

I am also not insinuating that Jankowski didn't have a bad year last year. But one good/bad year doesn't make/break a career.

"Convince me this isn't a better team."... You haven't even put the seed of a thought that your team is better than the real team in anyone's head, much less convince anyone. Convince me that Namestnikov is a better option than Kapanen (even though he isn't) and that a drafted guy that won't impact the NHL for a couple years is better than a guy that is very solid defensively and had 32 points two seasons ago and 17 goals the season prior.

As a side, to counter whatever you are going to toss out for support of Mercer... looking at what might be considered "impact"
2019 draft class, only 3 players played more than 8 games last year, and those were picks #1, #2, and #3. (23 points, leads the group, not really impact players)
2018 draft class, only 5 guys have played over 52 games total over the last 2 years, picks 1, 2, 3, 4, and 7.
2017 draft class, only 8 guys have played over 72 games total over the last 3 seasons.
This is just to show that very few draft picks have impact in early years, and those that do are top-5 picks and a couple lucky hits, and the lucky hits take a few years.
Also, why did you pick Mercer at #18 rather than Amirov with Pittsburgh's #15 pick that was traded for Kapanen? Mercer a little easier to argue for over Amirov?
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