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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 17, 2021 at 11:54 p.m.
Thread:
What if it was all planed
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Have confirmed this with Bill Daly just now: There is no blanket rule prohibiting a team from re-acquiring player lost in exp draft already</p>— Pierre LeBrun (@PierreVLeBrun) <a href="https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/879349501353439232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">June 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
It looks like it's possible. It would be a hell of a shrewd move if Bergevin pulls it off. Basically trading for an extra $5.25M in cap space for 5 years. Definitely wouldn't be cheap tho.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 16, 2021 at 1:18 p.m.
Thread:
No Danault
There's no need to trade for Deangelo. NY is going to buy him out. The question is <em>why</em> so many Habs fans seem to want this guy? He's getting bought out because he was so toxic that not only did the Rangers want him out of their room, they couldn't find any team in the league willing to take him on waivers or in trade; they couldn't even find an AHL team to loan him to. I can't understand why people think bringing this guy into the Habs locker room is a good idea.
And, as good as Makar is, I can't imagine anyone giving up 4 1st round picks for one player.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 15, 2021 at 3:29 p.m.
Thread:
Why not Barrie
The problem with Barrie is he's pretty crap defensively and the Habs are built around their defensive game. He'd be a great add as a 3rd pairing D that can be a power-play specialist, but asking him to step into Weber's spot is a recipe for failure. Maybe if they went with something like Savard and Barrie, but I think the price would be too high.
I like Janmark, but I think he's more of a fallback option. Getting a solid 20 goal scorer like Saad or trading for a guy like Copp would probably be the better option in my mind, but Janmark would be a solid backup plan.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 15, 2021 at 3:02 p.m.
Thread:
Weber LTIR
How do you sign Suzuki at the end of the season? What about Caufield the year after? Is Weber retiring or just missing the season? If he's coming back the team is way beyond cap hell.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 15, 2021 at 2:59 p.m.
Thread:
Question
Not likely. The Habs don't get to control if Weber retires or goes on LTIR. That's up to Weber and the NHL/NHLPA.
The only way it would makes sense for Nashville to trade for Weber is Montreal decides he's going to be a healthy scratch going forward and that might push him to retire early. In that case Nashville could trade for him to keep him active, but that's not worth doing for a few more years, since they'd be taking on his $7.8M cap hit and right now the recapture is cheaper. In the last couple years of his contract that changes.
Montreal is the one that's feeling the pain right now, especially if it's not clear if Weber will miss part of the season, the whole season or retire. Dramatically changes what they can do with that cap space.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2021 at 9:42 p.m.
Thread:
Boom
That seems like a huge overpay for Jones, especially when he most likely won't sign for a Canadian team.
And that's not how the recapture thing works. If Weber goes on LTIR, Nashville is off the hook.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2021 at 3:38 p.m.
Thread:
Protection List 8 Skaters 1 Goalie
I think the question will be: what strategy does Seattle want to take?
Do they want to copy Vegas and go for it right away? Then take Drouin and hope he can duplicate what we saw from guys like Marchessault in that draft.
Do they want to go for the most valuable trade chips and build their team through trades/signings? Then go with Allen.
Do they want to build a team of futures that will get high picks in the next two years when guys like Shane Wright and Connor Bedard will be available and lots of cap space to weaponize? Then Jake Evans or Cale Fleury would be the way to go.
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Fauteuil - DG
Jul. 14, 2021 at 12:23 a.m.
Thread:
Chariot
Detroit fans are absolutely insane on their pricing for cap space and if that's actually the kind of return that the Wings (and the half dozen other teams with cap space to spare) can get, there's just no reason to make that trade.
At the deadline I could see it, but Byron is still a useful player, just a couple million overpaid. Buying him out would bring the cap hit down substantially, but the best bet for the Habs would be to move Lehkonen instead and keep Byron for at least one more year.
Bergevin just isn't under enough of a cap crunch to need to overpay to those extremes.
For your signings $6M seems a bit high for a 20 goal scorer, so I'd guess $5.5M as the max there. I doubt KK gets much more than a 2x$2.5M deal. He's got a ton of potential, but hasn't put up the numbers yet. He'll want to bet on himself. Lehkonen would need to be bumped up to $2.2M to meet his QO.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 12, 2021 at 12:08 a.m.
Thread:
Canadien
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>papishark</b></div><div>Quick question. Say a team offersheets KK for 4x4, Do you think MTL would match? Id love to see it happen and he seems like a good target because MTL is trying to add big names</div></div>
For 4x4 they'd probably match, but that would be insanely unlikely. Teams can't offer sheet until after the entry draft and it's doubtful KK won't have signed before then.
More than that, I doubt KK would sign that sheet; not out of loyalty or anything, but simply because he'd want a short term deal to drive his price up.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 11, 2021 at 12:15 a.m.
Thread:
bigmusclesbergysummer
When you can't fill out the 23 man roster without going over the cap, you've probably spent to much ;)
Also, not sure why you'd give a way a 1st to move Lehkonen and Byron. Lehkonen would be easy to trade for a pick and Byron, while harder to move, probably would be bought out before they'd give up a 1st.
While I think Drouin would do well in Colorado, they're not going to take him at that cap hit. Honestly no one's going to take him until there's more details about his situation at the least.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 10, 2021 at 11:38 p.m.
Thread:
Bye Bye Danault
Can the Habs get away with icing a team without a single Quebec born player in the lineup? The only UFA Quebecer that isn't just a depth guy would be Savard, and he'd likely be on the 3rd pairing if they signed him. Maybe they could trade for Gourde, since Tampa needs to shed cap space, but his contract isn't much better than what Danault would be looking for.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2021 at 6:52 p.m.
Thread:
Lord Stanley 2022
That's a hell of a price for Eichel: 3 of the last 4 1st rounds picks and the next 2, plus a couple seconds and a b-prospect goalie. Add the fact that we don't know if/when he'll be healthy... that's a bit too rich for me.
Queue the Blues fans saying they don't want Drouin and won't retain, then the Sens fans saying they don't want Byron. Habs are going to have to hang on to those two, at least until we get some more info on Drouin's situation.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2021 at 6:28 p.m.
Thread:
Build Off This
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GoHabsGo99</b></div><div>RNH contract...he wont get more than him</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Yeah and RNH just signed for 8 years @ $5,125,000 AAV so Danult will get similar on a shorter term deal then that.</div></div>
RNH isn't a good comparable for Danault since he primarily plays wing and plays an offensive role. The comparables to look at would be Lowery, Pageau and Eriksson Ek. Eriksson Ek is much better offensively, ranked higher in the Selke voting, is 4 years younger and signed for 8x$5.25M. Lowery, while a good 3C, is well below Danaut's ability and didn't see a single Selke vote: he signed for 5x$3.25M. Pageau is the closest to Danault in ability, not quite as good defensively or as a playmaker, but better at scoring (which always pays more), and he signed for 6x$5M pre-flat-cap.
Danault's playoff performance definitely raised his stock, but I would think he'll still get a contract in the $25-30M range. Term will be the big question and he might be able to get a bit more money taking a longer term and simply because he's a Quebecer, which is a big deal in this market. 8x$3.75M would be a $30M deal, so I could see him getting 8x$4M, but I think the Habs will probably look for something closer to 6x$4.25M ($25.5M).
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 7, 2021 at 11:31 p.m.
Thread:
Next year
Tarasenko could be interesting for the Habs, but his cap hit is just too big. As much as I like to see the Habs win their trades, I'm pretty sure the Blues' GM would be skinned alive if he made that deal.
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Montreal Canadiens
Jul. 7, 2021 at 11:01 p.m.
Thread:
Hell of a run
It sucks to lose, but it was a hell of a run and the team showed they can compete with anyone (even if everyone else thinks every team they faced suddenly choked...). Looking forward to next year and a very tough division to fight for a playoff spot.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 7, 2021 at 4:36 p.m.
Thread:
Big Bad Blueline
It'll be interesting to see what WPG does for the expansion draft. They'll need to expose one of Appleton, Copp or Lowery (most likely Appleton) if they don't trade one before the draft, but then they likely lose Stanley or DeMelo, depending on which they expose. Making a deal with Seattle would be the obvious move, but Seattle has all the leverage and likely would be asking a lot. Does it end up making more sense to lose one of those guys for nothing or trading away a couple of them for picks/prospects that will be draft exempt?
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 7, 2021 at 4:12 p.m.
Thread:
Not real just for fun Makar Offersheet
In all likelihood Colorado signs Makar well before the offer sheet windows opens, but he'd definitely be an interesting target if they don't. I can't see any team going above 5x$10.3M though; 4 first rounders is a hell of a price to pay.
Of course odds are we won't see a single offer sheet this year, if someone did send one to Makar (and he actually agreed to sign it), I'd think it would be more in the hopes of driving Makar's price up for the Avs than actually expecting to get him.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 7, 2021 at 4:03 p.m.
Thread:
next season
I can't see either Montreal or Tampa agreeing to that trade. Gourde and Palat might well get moved to free up cap space, but they're not going to want to take Byron's cap hit back in the deal and probably not Lehkonen's either. For the Habs, KK is basically an untouchable. He was their 3rd overall pick and just turned 21 a couple of days ago. He's got at least a couple more seasons to show he can reach the 1C potential that drafted him for.
I don't think the value of Drouin for Risto is bad, but there's just so much we don't know about Drouin's situation right now and it's driven his trade value into the ground. I think it's unlikely that Drouin is moved in the off season and will at least start the season with the Habs, if he plays at all. If they did decide to trade him, giving up a top-6 winger that's consistently gotten around 50 points on a team that hasn't been that good, to get a 3rd pairing RD that they can't afford to resign at the end of the year is a really tough trade to sell, in my opinion. I think the Habs will more likely look for a cheaper option or just give prospects like Fleury, Brook and Norlinder a chance.
For nit-picks: It sounds like Bernier wants to stay in Detroit and will likely sign after the expansion draft. Armia isn't likely to take a million dollar pay cut after the season/playoffs he's had, so I expect he'll be looking for something around a $9-10M deal. The Habs probably can't afford to give Danault a $40M deal and will likely try for something closer to $30M, like an 8x$3.75M or 6x$5M (though he reportedly turned that down in the offseason).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 7, 2021 at 3:07 p.m.
Thread:
trying2
I think the Habs will likely have to offer Danault and Armia term to reduce the AAV cap hit if they bring them both back. For Danault, I think they'll try for something around 8x$3.75M ($30M) and for Armia I would guess something around 4x$2.75M (though I think they'll let him walk). Of course their agents will have other ideas...
I like Coleman but I think they'd need to try to keep him around $3.5M; I'd use Kerfoot and Heinen as comparables, though he's slightly better than both (also older). I would ideally like to see them get a bit better goal scorer (Hall or Saad-esk player) and find a way to fit them under the cap, or trade for someone with scoring ability but closer in age to the young core.
Some potential deals I think could be gotten reasonably cheap are Copp (if Winnipeg continues to have problems signing him), Foegele or Wood. Copp would likely be the most expensive to acquire, but put up similar numbers to Hoffman this season and is younger and comes with less baggage. Foegele is a 3rd line player who might have the potential to break out if given a bigger role, but it would be a fairly cheap gamble to make. Wood is another guy who played on the 3rd line and shows signs he could player higher in the lineup, but Carolina fans love him and price him insanely high; if the GM doesn't rate him as highly or at least less than their need for defense help, he could be another cheap (AAV) gamble, if a bit expensive to acquire.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 7, 2021 at 2:34 p.m.
Thread:
Lets try
That would be a ton of money on the right side of the D. I know Barrie had a really strong offensive season, but he still wasn't great defensively and wouldn't have McDavid and Draisaitl boosting his numbers in Montreal. If he was willing to do something south of $5M for 1 or 2 years, then I think he'd be a good pickup, but he'd basically just play on the powerplay.
Buying out Byron is a bad idea. The cap hit for the first year is tiny, but it jumps up after that to ~1.8 for the next year and ~1.1 for 2 years after that. If they wait a season it becomes a good bit cheaper and they can likely move him to a team that could use him or will do the buyout for them for a mid-round pick.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 7, 2021 at 12:13 p.m.
Thread:
Dunn for Gurianov and more
I can't see Montreal agreeing to that deal. Brook is one of only 2 RD prospects they have, the only one that's a PMD, and the only 2 RD on the NHL roster are in their mid-30s. I could definitely see the Habs trading for Blais, but it would have to be something like Lehkonen or a forward prospect/pick. If they give up Brook, it would have to be as part of a deal for Dunn and, while I like that deal, the Habs likely will just wait a year for Norlinder to develop.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 7, 2021 at 12:05 p.m.
Thread:
2022
Beauvillier would be an ideal upgrade on the left side and make a lot of Montreal media/politicians happy. However it's going to be really hard to offer sheet him since offer sheets aren't open until after the entry draft and I expect the Islanders will have freed up a decent amount of cap space between Seattle selecting someone off their roster and trades. If they're still tight on the cap when offer sheets open, I expect the Habs would have to overpay to keep them from matching, maybe something around 5x$6M (1st + 3rd in compensation).
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 7, 2021 at 11:56 a.m.
Thread:
Habs
That Danault contract is the same as the one Eriksson Ek signed, and he's 4 years younger and scored 19 goals in 56 games. I don't think the Habs can give Danault anything near that. Danault's comparables are going to be Lowery and Pageau, probably leaning closer to Pageau. It was reported that he turned down the same contract as Pageau before the season, but I think the Habs need to push for the same $30M deal and maybe spread it over a longer term to keep the AAV down; if they went as long as 8 years (taking Danault to 36 years old), then 8x$3.75M. A 6 year term would be better, but they'd need him to take a pay cut. Pageau signed his deal before the flat cap.
Unless Suzuki has a crazy year, I think they'd either sign him to a bridge deal around 3x$6M (comparable to Point or Barzal) or, preferably, a long term deal similar to Eriksson Ek around 8x$5.5M. I can definitely see his agent pushing for the bridge deal though.
For KK, I'd look to Sam Bennett as a comparable. KK hasn't shown nearly as much scoring ability as Bennett did early in his career but has a better all-round game. Bennett's first RFA deal was 2x$1.95M so I think the Habs could sign KK to a similar deal. I can't see anyway that KK and his agent agree to a long term deal while his stock is this low and he's likely to break out in the next couple of seasons.
For the trades, in my opinion Butcher would be a significant step down from Chiarot and a higher cap hit, so I'd rather just keep Chiarot. Meier's value is tricky because he's an outstanding player, but his contract is structured so that his qualifying offer in 2 seasons will be $10M. It's unlikely that Meier will be worth that much unless he elevates his play significantly before then, so I think I would remove the 1st from that trade since he'd be a rental+1. I also don't think there's any way that Anderson is moved next season unless Bergevin steps down as GM and his replacement makes the deal.
Byron's contract is a pain with the flat cap, but I think the Habs will likely hang on to him for at least one more year. He's still a valuable depth player (if ~$2M over paid) and his contract will be significantly cheaper to move/buyout in the last year.
Rather than McCabe, I think the Habs will look for some RD depth instead (assuming they don't think Fleury or Brook are ready to step in). Ducharme has already said he doesn't want to put Romanov on the right side and Kulak is a solid depth D who can slot into the top-4 short term without a problem. They also have Norlinder, Guhle and likely Harris that will be pushing for a roster spot as early as this coming season in Norlinder's case.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 5, 2021 at 12:54 p.m.
Thread:
Small revenge on Tampa
Foote would be a really nice add for the Habs, but I think the timing would make things pretty unlikely. They wouldn't be able to tender an offer-sheet until after the expansion draft, so Tampa would have already lost a player to Seattle and had lots of time to make a trade or two to free up the miniscule amount of cap space they'd need to match.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 5, 2021 at 12:18 p.m.
Thread:
Unrealistic to happen but i saw some of thoses moves
I think the Killorn deal is a good one if Drouin's contract is moved or he sits out another season. Unfortunately I think it'd take a lot more money to get Oleksiak out of Texas tho.
Drouin for Manson is interesting if complicated by Drouin's current low value, but I don't know that the Habs would go that route. If they got Manson, they'd likely want to sign him for a few years, but they don't have the money to do that if they take on Killorn's cap hit. Giving away Drouin for a rental is a hefty price.
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